Author Topic: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic  (Read 200 times)

SparzWizard and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« on: Today at 11:41:02 AM »

Online DefenseWinsChamps

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6828
  • Tommy Points: 812
I think most of us still feel like we are one piece away from being a true contender again, even when Tatum comes back.

The emergence of our young wings fixes some of what we lost with Jrue, but we still need a big to go with Queta.

The shift in our defensive identity this year means we would be looking for a guy that can be a good helpside defender, while being able to play a helter-skelter, swarming style of defense.

For fun, I went through the league looking for players like this. Here is one trade that I came up with.

Just ignore the politics of this trade for a second -- on the court, does it make some sense?

Magic receive: Simons
Magic trade: Isaac, Jones, Howard

Celtics receive: Isaac, Jones
Celtics trade: Simons

Third team receives: Howard, draft compensation
Third team trades: tightly-protected late 2nd rounders that will never realize

Why for the Magic? They continue to struggle to score the basketball, even with Bane and the emergence of Black. Getting Simons gives them another great shooter to space the floor and a microwave scorer that can help them when the offense slows down.

If you follow the sentiment online, most Magic fans have been thinking it was time to trade Isaac for the last year. Jones is hardly playing, and they just declined Howard's team option, which means they are just salary filler. Trading Isaac for Simons keeps their core together while getting better offensively.

On top of that, they had been rumored to be interested in Simons for several years.

Why for the Celtics? Isaac is not only a lock-down one-on-one defender, but he is also a good helpside defender. He can play the 4 or the 5, but he doesn't demand the ball or shoot too much. He's a smart player who knows his role and could fit it really well. He fits the swarming defensive strategy with his length and quickness, and is well-known for being one of the most disruptive defenders in the NBA.

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #1 on: Today at 12:15:32 PM »

Online slamtheking

  • NCE
  • Walter Brown
  • ********************************
  • Posts: 32839
  • Tommy Points: 10151
talent-wise, I like Isaac although he's never developed as much as I thought he would.  his biggest issue by far is his inability to stay healthy.  I wouldn't make the deal

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #2 on: Today at 12:30:56 PM »

Offline mobilija

  • NCE
  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3150
  • Tommy Points: 744
One of the more reasonable trades I?ve seen and the type of trade that is more likely than the Zubac/Claxton variety, in my opinion.

Agree w Slam on Isaac injury history but I think a B level 4/5 w some injury concerns is a good return for Simons and a mid 2nd round pick. Also, I?m assuming this helps dip us below luxury tax?

What are the ?politics? of the trade?

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #3 on: Today at 12:36:43 PM »

Online jambr380

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13808
  • Tommy Points: 2068
  • Sometimes there's no sane reason for optimism
The idea of Jonathan Isaac is a lot better than the actual player at this point in his career. I understand your thinking in cutting salary for this season and acquiring a versatile defensive wing, but Isaac is in the first year of a 4yr/$59M contract. While not necessarily horrible, it's not good either. And 3 more years of dealing with injury issues and possible conflicting political issues make it a no for me.

If we are taking on additional years on mid money, I'd want more of a guarantee. At this point, I'd rate Minott as a better player than Isaac. Minott is also super-coachable, durable, and athletic.

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #4 on: Today at 01:00:15 PM »

Online slamtheking

  • NCE
  • Walter Brown
  • ********************************
  • Posts: 32839
  • Tommy Points: 10151
The idea of Jonathan Isaac is a lot better than the actual player at this point in his career. I understand your thinking in cutting salary for this season and acquiring a versatile defensive wing, but Isaac is in the first year of a 4yr/$59M contract. While not necessarily horrible, it's not good either. And 3 more years of dealing with injury issues and possible conflicting political issues make it a no for me.

If we are taking on additional years on mid money, I'd want more of a guarantee. At this point, I'd rate Minott as a better player than Isaac. Minott is also super-coachable, durable, and athletic.
the contract and injury concerns should be netting us the second rounders, not the C's sending any out.

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #5 on: Today at 01:05:40 PM »

Offline Roy H.

  • Forums Manager
  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 63589
  • Tommy Points: -25455
  • Bo Knows: Joe Don't Know Diddley
Isaac and Jones have both been quite bad this year. 


I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER... AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #6 on: Today at 01:28:12 PM »

Online DefenseWinsChamps

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6828
  • Tommy Points: 812
If Isaac was good this year, he wouldn't be available.

He has the potential to be an all-nba 1st team defender, and he's essentially making the MLE.

He fits a position of need

He maximizes our strengths on defense with his length, quickness, and swarming style of play.

He played 71 games last year and has been healthy this year. He may have turned a corner health-wise.

 

Re: Trade Idea: Celtics/Magic
« Reply #7 on: Today at 02:34:00 PM »

Online Vermont Green

  • Cedric Maxwell
  • **************
  • Posts: 14203
  • Tommy Points: 1046
Isaac is putting up 3 and 3 this season in 10 minutes.  Tyrus Jones has been worse.  I don't see the point.  Like someone said, the idea of Jonathon Isaac seems to be much better than the actuality of Jonathon Isaac.  I don't see the value of this trade.