Centers Possibly Available

[Phantom255x]

How about Myles Turner if the Bucks trade Giannis and rebuild?

I could see Brad being interested given how he has valued floor spacing bigs in the past.

However, I would be reluctant to give up much to put it lightly. Turner is a horrendous rebounder for a 7 footer as he has demonstrated in the finals and is now about to turn 30 and being overpaid for the next 4 years.

Simons, Minott and a heavily protected first is probably the most I would be willing to give up.

I feel like they've had every opportunity to trade for Turner over the years and decided against it. And yeah, he's just not a good rebounder. He's only averaging 6 a game now even when Giannis is out, and even the last game against the C's he had 4 points and 3 rebounds in 28 minutes.

Idk if it's the system or just regression but he's been mediocre this season.

In fairness the same kind of holds true with Vucevic too, they've had ample chances to acquire him and decided against it. Claxton and Zubac though seem like guys they'd be interested in, or even Day'Ron Sharpe like @tonydelk said. It does seem BKN and BOS are destined to trade with each other or with BKN as the 3rd team to help facilitate because of their cap space.

If you can flip Simons in a trade and get back Sharpe + a depth guard while saving some money, I'd be pleased. My *dream* though is Zubac, he'd just be perfect in so many ways including the age and timeline.

[moiso]

How about Myles Turner if the Bucks trade Giannis and rebuild?

I could see Brad being interested given how he has valued floor spacing bigs in the past.

However, I would be reluctant to give up much to put it lightly. Turner is a horrendous rebounder for a 7 footer as he has demonstrated in the finals and is now about to turn 30 and being overpaid for the next 4 years.

Simons, Minott and a heavily protected first is probably the most I would be willing to give up.

I think Turner is slowing down.  He looked ineffective in the playoffs and even worse this year.  I don't think he'll last through the team's next phase.  I prefer Minot as a player to Turner.

[ozgod]

How about Myles Turner if the Bucks trade Giannis and rebuild?

I could see Brad being interested given how he has valued floor spacing bigs in the past.

However, I would be reluctant to give up much to put it lightly. Turner is a horrendous rebounder for a 7 footer as he has demonstrated in the finals and is now about to turn 30 and being overpaid for the next 4 years.

Simons, Minott and a heavily protected first is probably the most I would be willing to give up.

I think Turner is slowing down.  He looked ineffective in the playoffs and even worse this year.  I don't think he'll last through the team's next phase.  I prefer Minot as a player to Turner.

Plus he's on a 4y/$108m contract, I don't think that will age well. Are we going to play Myles in the starting lineup ahead of Queta who is on $2m and has some upside? Or have him sit the bench?

[slightly biased bias fan]

I honestly do not know how the Celtics get another championship without an elite centre.

Most teams would be happy to just make the finals, but the Celtics should hold themselves to a higher standard.

If the Celtics get back to the finals, they will be competing against either Jokic, Wembanyama or Holmgren. The Celtics currently constructed would get destroyed by all of them.

[Celtics4ever]

Name the last five teams that won titles that had elite centers?  And please do not say Al Horford in your response because he was more serviceable than Elite when we won with him. 

We all know Joker was elite, but many teams have won with out elite centers.   GS won with Kevin Looney for criminy's sake.   CLE won with Tristant Thompson.  We won one with Kendrick Perkins and an aging Al Horford.

In the age of the three pointer, centers are not as important as they once were folks.   Yes, they still help a lot.   But it is not like the days of the pre- three point shot when you pounded the ball inside on most possessions.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Name the last five teams that won titles that had elite centers?  And please do not say Al Horford in your response because he was more serviceable than Elite when we won with him. 

We all know Joker was elite, but many teams have won with out elite centers.   GS won with Kevin Looney for criminy's sake.   CLE won with Tristant Thompson.  We won one with Kendrick Perkins and an aging Al Horford.

In the age of the three pointer, centers are not as important as they once were folks.   Yes, they still help a lot.   But it is not like the days of the pre- three point shot when you pounded the ball inside on most possessions.

We won the title with Porzingis, who (although injury prone) is an elite center.

The NBA is a reactionary league. Teams need a counter to the current dominant force. The current dominant forces all have elite centres.

Queta does match up well against Duran, but he would get destroyed by Jokic, Wembanyama and Holmgren.

[slamtheking]

Name the last five teams that won titles that had elite centers?  And please do not say Al Horford in your response because he was more serviceable than Elite when we won with him. 

We all know Joker was elite, but many teams have won with out elite centers.   GS won with Kevin Looney for criminy's sake.   CLE won with Tristant Thompson.  We won one with Kendrick Perkins and an aging Al Horford.

In the age of the three pointer, centers are not as important as they once were folks.   Yes, they still help a lot.   But it is not like the days of the pre- three point shot when you pounded the ball inside on most possessions.

We won the title with Porzingis, who (although injury prone) is an elite center.

The NBA is a reactionary league. Teams need a counter to the current dominant force. The current dominant forces all have elite centres.

Queta does match up well against Duran, but he would get destroyed by Jokic, Wembanyama and Holmgren.

Zinger hardly played in the playoffs.  Al was our primary center in that run

[Phantom255x]

The best iteration of this team and core going forward is Queta being the backup big, and us adding a productive, very solid starting center to go along with White, Tatum and Brown. I think we have some good pieces in the bench and guys like Hugo + Walsh will continue to grow and improve.

We don't need a superstar big but a very productive big man would still be ideal especially when you look at some of the teams we are competing against going forward in the East. Tillman/Garza obviously aren't it at all even as backups and Amari is still probably a year or two away from being a consistent 3rd big.

Someone like Zubac, Vucevic or Claxton would be sweet.

And btw, Queta can still start some games and be a fringe starter in case of injuries/rest. Horford was kind of that for us as well when we had Timelord/Porzingis those years, and it worked out fine. But they absolutely need another quality big man in the roster

[Surferdad]

The best iteration of this team and core going forward is Queta being the backup big, and us adding a productive, very solid starting center to go along with White, Tatum and Brown. I think we have some good pieces in the bench and guys like Hugo + Walsh will continue to grow and improve.

We don't need a superstar big but a very productive big man would still be ideal especially when you look at some of the teams we are competing against going forward in the East. Tillman/Garza obviously aren't it at all even as backups and Amari is still probably a year or two away from being a consistent 3rd big.

Someone like Zubac, Vucevic or Claxton would be sweet.

And btw, Queta can still start some games and be a fringe starter in case of injuries/rest. Horford was kind of that for us as well when we had Timelord/Porzingis those years, and it worked out fine. But they absolutely need another quality big man in the roster

I am really concerned about sending a negative message to Queta by acquired a starting big. He has made a lot of progress this season. Maybe I should not be concerned about his feelings but that is my consistent thought when I see his progress.

[ozgod]

Name the last five teams that won titles that had elite centers?  And please do not say Al Horford in your response because he was more serviceable than Elite when we won with him. 

We all know Joker was elite, but many teams have won with out elite centers.   GS won with Kevin Looney for criminy's sake.   CLE won with Tristant Thompson.  We won one with Kendrick Perkins and an aging Al Horford.

In the age of the three pointer, centers are not as important as they once were folks.   Yes, they still help a lot.   But it is not like the days of the pre- three point shot when you pounded the ball inside on most possessions.

We won the title with Porzingis, who (although injury prone) is an elite center.

The NBA is a reactionary league. Teams need a counter to the current dominant force. The current dominant forces all have elite centres.

Queta does match up well against Duran, but he would get destroyed by Jokic, Wembanyama and Holmgren.

Zinger hardly played in the playoffs.  Al was our primary center in that run

Speaking of which, both are injured again this season 

[ozgod]

The best iteration of this team and core going forward is Queta being the backup big, and us adding a productive, very solid starting center to go along with White, Tatum and Brown. I think we have some good pieces in the bench and guys like Hugo + Walsh will continue to grow and improve.

We don't need a superstar big but a very productive big man would still be ideal especially when you look at some of the teams we are competing against going forward in the East. Tillman/Garza obviously aren't it at all even as backups and Amari is still probably a year or two away from being a consistent 3rd big.

Someone like Zubac, Vucevic or Claxton would be sweet.

And btw, Queta can still start some games and be a fringe starter in case of injuries/rest. Horford was kind of that for us as well when we had Timelord/Porzingis those years, and it worked out fine. But they absolutely need another quality big man in the roster

I am really concerned about sending a negative message to Queta by acquired a starting big. He has made a lot of progress this season. Maybe I should not be concerned about his feelings but that is my consistent thought when I see his progress.

I feel the same way. Then I think about it this way - he's on a minimum contract, if someone is brought in above him for us to contend, he can either sulk about it or try and keep playing hard so he can earn a better contract. I think as a professional he will do the latter. That doesn't mean that Joe and Brad wouldn't have work to do to explain the situation to him.