Stupidity of Heat Culture

[slightly biased bias fan]

Recently I saw a video short of Erik Spoelstra running with his coaches and it was emphasising hEaT cUlTuRe. Just yesterday I saw a new Nike commercial with Tyler Herro talking about the same culture garbage.

The way Miami self promotes that rubbish everywhere, like their jerseys & on their court makes me nauseous. To casual NBA fans you would think the Miami Heat are the gold standard in NBA history.

In their 37 year existence the Heat have won 3 titles. Their first was because they got Shaq. A guy who was notoriously lazy, out of shape and selfish. He was all these things for the Heat. The other two titles were because of LeBron James. Winning titles with one of the greatest players in NBA history (in his prime) does not scream culture.

The real NBA franchise of culture is the San Antonio Spurs. The Spurs just do not constantly toot their own horn about it.

[Phantom255x]

I agree, it's nauseating. I still laugh very hard even at my Heat friends that they have this atrocity on their courts during "heat culture" moments 

[Moranis]

Spurs? The franchise that did one of the most blatant tank jobs in history to land one of the 10 greatest players in history who won at least 50 games every year of his career, went 5-1 in finals with said player, and have 0 finals appearances without said player.  A franchise that has one of the longest playoff droughts in the sport now into their 7th year. 

The entire Spurs culture was Tim Duncan.  He was the winner. He is the one that got them titles and wins.  They've been a mediocre franchise without Tim Duncan.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Spurs? The franchise that did one of the most blatant tank jobs in history to land one of the 10 greatest players in history who won at least 50 games every year of his career, went 5-1 in finals with said player, and have 0 finals appearances without said player.  A franchise that has one of the longest playoff droughts in the sport now into their 7th year. 

The entire Spurs culture was Tim Duncan.  He was the winner. He is the one that got them titles and wins.  They've been a mediocre franchise without Tim Duncan.

The Spurs won the Western Conference in 1994-95 (pre Duncan) and won 61 games in 2016-17 (post Duncan).

David Robinson & Gregg Popovich were military guys, Tim Duncan was malleable enough to fit into their military style environment. The Spurs ethos is that everyone is accountable and does their job.

The Spurs go for coachable players who understand their role. Go back and look at nobodies who have come through the Spurs development system, become high level role players, got paid elsewhere but were never as good.

Look at the Spurs coaching tree across the NBA. Heck look at the Oklahoma City Thunder and the environment they have built, that has all come from Sam Presti and his experience in San Antonio.

The Spurs are the New England Patriots of the NBA.

[ChillyWilly]

Spurs? The franchise that did one of the most blatant tank jobs in history to land one of the 10 greatest players in history who won at least 50 games every year of his career, went 5-1 in finals with said player, and have 0 finals appearances without said player.  A franchise that has one of the longest playoff droughts in the sport now into their 7th year. 

The entire Spurs culture was Tim Duncan.  He was the winner. He is the one that got them titles and wins.  They've been a mediocre franchise without Tim Duncan.

The Spurs won the Western Conference in 1994-95 (pre Duncan) and won 61 games in 2016-17 (post Duncan).

David Robinson & Gregg Popovich were military guys, Tim Duncan was malleable enough to fit into their military style environment. The Spurs ethos is that everyone is accountable and does their job.

The Spurs go for coachable players who understand their role. Go back and look at nobodies who have come through the Spurs development system, become high level role players, got paid elsewhere but were never as good.

Look at the Spurs coaching tree across the NBA. Heck look at the Oklahoma City Thunder and the environment they have built, that has all come from Sam Presti and his experience in San Antonio.

The Spurs are the New England Patriots of the NBA.

Pop always had a top 3 player leading his team. He went from Robinson to Ducan to Leonard. There is no Spurs "Culture" if David doesn't get hurt. Winning is the Culture and you win with Superstars.

[slamtheking]

only team with a real culture is the Celtics.  case closed.

[Moranis]

Spurs? The franchise that did one of the most blatant tank jobs in history to land one of the 10 greatest players in history who won at least 50 games every year of his career, went 5-1 in finals with said player, and have 0 finals appearances without said player.  A franchise that has one of the longest playoff droughts in the sport now into their 7th year. 

The entire Spurs culture was Tim Duncan.  He was the winner. He is the one that got them titles and wins.  They've been a mediocre franchise without Tim Duncan.

The Spurs won the Western Conference in 1994-95 (pre Duncan) and won 61 games in 2016-17 (post Duncan).

David Robinson & Gregg Popovich were military guys, Tim Duncan was malleable enough to fit into their military style environment. The Spurs ethos is that everyone is accountable and does their job.

The Spurs go for coachable players who understand their role. Go back and look at nobodies who have come through the Spurs development system, become high level role players, got paid elsewhere but were never as good.

Look at the Spurs coaching tree across the NBA. Heck look at the Oklahoma City Thunder and the environment they have built, that has all come from Sam Presti and his experience in San Antonio.

The Spurs are the New England Patriots of the NBA.

The Spurs are the New England Patriots only in that they had an unprecedented run of winning caused almost entirely by their best player.  That isn't the Heat who have been to the Finals twice since Wade left.  A team that hasn't missed the playoffs since 2019 (when they still won 39 games).  The Heat haven't had a truly bad season since 08 when they won just 15 games (and the only guy that played at least 70 games was Ricky Davis) and after their 1st 3 expansion years have only won less than 32 games just twice (and that includes a 50 game season when they were 33-17).  The Heat have never truly bottomed out.  They've had excellent coaching, excellent executives, and they win well above their station most years.  There is no way a team with Jimmy Butler as its best player should have 2 finals appearances.  Even last year they tried to tank and still made the playoffs.

Spoelstra is an excellent coach, one of the best ever.  Riley is an excellent lead executive, also one of the best ever.  If you had given the Heat Tim Duncan, they'd have more than 5 titles.  They would have crafted a better team than what the Spurs did.  And I believe that.  I also don't think it is a coincidence that basically the minute Tim Duncan retired, Kawhi Leonard no longer wanted to be there and faked an injury to get away from the organization. 

[Yuckabuck33]

Of course the League hypes "Heat Culture." It's the replacement for Celtic Pride.

[Phantom255x]

We can debate Spurs vs. Heat but I'm sorry "Heat Culture" is cringe and the way they market it is ridiculous. Most fanbases outside of Florida agree too. Twitter and accounts like Centel feast on it

[tenn_smoothie]

Recently I saw a video short of Erik Spoelstra running with his coaches and it was emphasising hEaT cUlTuRe. Just yesterday I saw a new Nike commercial with Tyler Herro talking about the same culture garbage.

The way Miami self promotes that rubbish everywhere, like their jerseys & on their court makes me nauseous. To casual NBA fans you would think the Miami Heat are the gold standard in NBA history.

In their 37 year existence the Heat have won 3 titles. Their first was because they got Shaq. A guy who was notoriously lazy, out of shape and selfish. He was all these things for the Heat. The other two titles were because of LeBron James. Winning titles with one of the greatest players in NBA history (in his prime) does not scream culture.

The real NBA franchise of culture is the San Antonio Spurs. The Spurs just do not constantly toot their own horn about it.

Yes, the last two Miami titles were because Lebron said, "Let me get some buddies together to play in Miami." Not exactly quality team building.

The Spurs had the great culture, yes, but let's not forget the gold standard of franchise culture, our Boston Celtics.
Spurs had one run of titles and a strong culture. Celts have had five, Russell's dynasty, Cowens and Havlicek, the Bird years, Kevin Garnett changed the culture that, really, has stayed with the team to the present title group of Tatum, Brown, White. All team guys, hard workers, unselfish, priority is winning.