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Re: Path to 2026 Contention
« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 10:43:38 PM »

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I am of the opinion that Celtics should have hit the reset button in the offseason.

The Celtics could have traded Tatum for Cooper Flagg.

Then traded Brown & White to the San Antonio Spurs for Dylan Harper, 2028 Celtics draft pick & salary filler.

Queta
Barnes
Flagg
Harper
Prichard

Kornet, Hauser, Johnson, Simons, Olynyk, Hugo Gonzalez

That is a fun developmental team. It is good enough to win some games but not too good as to jeopardise the Celtics chances at a top 3 pick in the 2026 draft.

You're underestimating how good Tatum will be in the next five years. He will make the team a contender on his own (assuming healthy).
Does he? Even assuming he gets back to the level he was at before his injury (and that is a big assumption), there are lots and lots of teams throughout history with a top 5 player that aren't actual contenders.  I mean Philly has had Embiid for years (even with him winning the MVP) and has never been out of the 2nd round.  Even the Bucks with Giannis have done almost nothing since winning the title (one 2nd round appearance the year after and 1st round exits the last 3 years).  One injury to Middleton and their window closed with that group.  And Giannis is a clearly several tiers above Tatum in the scale of goodness.  Embiid obviously hurt a lot, but even when healthy, even when playing with Jimmy Butler, they lost in the 2nd round.

Yes you need a player like that to win a title, but having a player like that doesn't guarantee you are even a contender.  Tatum alone is nowhere near enough to make Boston a contender.  The team needs A LOT more.
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Re: Path to 2026 Contention
« Reply #46 on: Today at 01:02:47 AM »

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I am of the opinion that Celtics should have hit the reset button in the offseason.

The Celtics could have traded Tatum for Cooper Flagg.

Then traded Brown & White to the San Antonio Spurs for Dylan Harper, 2028 Celtics draft pick & salary filler.

Queta
Barnes
Flagg
Harper
Prichard

Kornet, Hauser, Johnson, Simons, Olynyk, Hugo Gonzalez

That is a fun developmental team. It is good enough to win some games but not too good as to jeopardise the Celtics chances at a top 3 pick in the 2026 draft.

You're underestimating how good Tatum will be in the next five years. He will make the team a contender on his own (assuming healthy).
Does he? Even assuming he gets back to the level he was at before his injury (and that is a big assumption), there are lots and lots of teams throughout history with a top 5 player that aren't actual contenders.  I mean Philly has had Embiid for years (even with him winning the MVP) and has never been out of the 2nd round.  Even the Bucks with Giannis have done almost nothing since winning the title (one 2nd round appearance the year after and 1st round exits the last 3 years).  One injury to Middleton and their window closed with that group.  And Giannis is a clearly several tiers above Tatum in the scale of goodness.  Embiid obviously hurt a lot, but even when healthy, even when playing with Jimmy Butler, they lost in the 2nd round.

Yes you need a player like that to win a title, but having a player like that doesn't guarantee you are even a contender.  Tatum alone is nowhere near enough to make Boston a contender.  The team needs A LOT more.

Nothing is guaranteed either way, personally I'll roll with the Tatum-Brown Duo who has made 5 ECF and 2 NBA Finals together. If I'm going to believe in any group to get us back to the finals it's the group (Brown/Tatum/White) that's already gotten there twice. They've proven they can do so with different assortments of supplementary talent whether its Horford/Robert Williams/Smart/Grant Williams or Horford/Porzingis/Holiday/Pritchard.

I'm just not sure why people are so quick to want to throw away formula we KNOW works.

As for Tatum, if he comes back and isn't at least very close to what he was before than nothing else matters. Say for example he's now the 10th best player rather than the 5th best, historically that's simply not good enough to win a title. It won't really matter whether they trade White, Brown or how they rebuild in that case because they won't really have a shot either way. You sort of need to, for now, operate from the persepctive tat he will return 100%.


Re: Path to 2026 Contention
« Reply #47 on: Today at 02:06:56 AM »

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Boston doesn't have the assets to acquire Davis

You wouldn't trade Brown for Davis and picks or you don't think Brown would be enough to get Davis?  Durability is a major concern for me with Davis.
If Dallas is trading Davis they won't want Brown and the late 1st's that Boston has. They'd be trading Davis to go all in around Flagg which means they'd want young players and better draft picks.  A team like the Spurs would have what they'd want.

Jaylen would be interesting on the Mavs. I am not that keen on the double big setup. I think AD is a center at this juncture in his career & moving forward in his career. Not a forward.

G: Kyrie, D Russell / B Williams
G: Klay, Max Christie
F: Jaylen, Naji Marshall
F: Cooper Flagg, PJ Washington
C: D Lively, D Gafford

That would be a fun team. A much better fit for Cooper Flagg to develop with. AD for Jaylen will make them play more up-tempo and open the floor more for Flagg's slashing game.