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What Is The Plan?
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Offline slightly biased bias fan

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I know I am early, but if the Celtics want to contend for a title and not just be a consistent playoff team, what is the plan? What is the front office trying to achieve? I am genuinely confused.

I am certain that this current roster (in a weak east) will make the playoffs. There will not be a high lottery pick waiting for Boston come the end of this season. Nor do the Celtics have that young player who is about to make a leap into stardom.

Next season, Tatum will be 28, Brown will be 30 and White will be 32. The Celtics should be in win now mode or looking to rebuild, not in-between.
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Offline trickybilly

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Sorry, what are you confused about?

This is a gap year with Tatum out. Do you want to trade away our starters so we guarantee a high pick? We are only a hair above the second apron, and unless you want to move someone valuable, like Pritchard or Hauser, we won't be moving down much more... we might move Simons at the deadline, but ownership probably doesn't care too much about paying some tax.

Front office won't do that, because, as you say, we are NOT in rebuild mode - we are exactly in "in-between" mode.

They are hoping that Minott or someone else really explodes, and then we will have a cost controlled high quality bench option for next year.
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Contend for a title! 

As I stated in the "How Many Games" thread, they won 53 in 16-17 which was JB's rookie year.  Go back and have gander at that team and you'll wonder how they won that many.  JB is now years wiser; and they have White and Simons.  While their bigs aren't great, I see Garza separating himself from that pack to become the guy.  This team will be ready to roll by the time JT returns!
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It's a retool/rebuild year. The plan is for beyond this season. Get back Tatum (healthy), add a center, and hopefully a few others like Hugo, Minott, etc. can gain experience and carve out roles for us on the next "contending" team.

Getting a lottery pick out of this year would be big, either as trade bait or using it to draft hopefully a solid impact guy
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This season is vibes and inshallah  ;D :D

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Not sure what the Celtics believe is the plan but if it was me, the plan for 2025-26 would about what can be developed for the 2026-27 season.  Figure out what we have and don't have.  Then the plan needs to be how to get what we don't have.  What moves at the deadline, what moves in the offseason.  No move should be made to just make the 2025-26 team a little better unless it also makes the 2026-27 team better also.

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Offline dannyboy35

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  If Tatum can be 85-90 percent of what he was next year we are right back in it. I do t think we will need anyone approaching stardom to be a big. Somebody with Valuciunus ability may be enough for us.
  We need guys that make plays . I don?t think Simons is here beyond this year. We have Pritchard, White, the Jays, and Hauser and after that I think Minot is the next guy up who I think will have a reliable role. The better players on this team make his job easier.

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I think the plan is to tread water this season and then to trade Simons at the deadline and/or to use our large TPE for a big over the summer.

Then, you come back with a top five of:

Center
Tatum
Brown
White
Pritchard

Depending on the center, that's a contending starting five.  The bench isn't amazing, but you hope that Hauser, Minott and whoever we draft can make contributions.


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I agree with Roy, but I also think we are trying to develop some future bench players in Garza, Minot and Gonzales.

If this returns and Tatum is healthy

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Center
Tatum
Brown
White
Pritchard

Reloading the bench matters.   

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I think the plan is probably pretty simple. Turn the Simons salary slot into a starting center making 15-30 million. Something along the lines of Turner, Kessler, Zubac, Stewart, Hartenstein ect. Hope one or two of the Baylor, Walsh, Gonzalez, Minot wing group pops.

Center (7'0+)
Tatum
Young Wing
Brown
White 

I think that would be an ideal starting lineup, with the "young wing" ideally being either Walsh/Hugo/Minot who can start as the primary on ball defender to take defensive reps off from White/Brown/Tatum. Personally, I'm dreaming on Hugo being that guy and the team being big and switchable at least 1-4.

Then you have a Pritchard/Hauser as your core bench with Minot/Queta/Boucher all being intriguing as 8-10 guys.

The key is A) What Center do you get? Do you go for a rim protector? A shooter? Somebody switchable? and B) Do you get development from the young guys? If you strike out on all of Walsh/Minot/Hugo/Baylor then you team gets real thin real fast. I'm optimistic on Gonzalez, he just looks like s a guy who will be at least a bench contributor perhaps soonish, but you never know for sure.

The Celtics are in no worse a situation, and in many ways better, of a situation as they were in the summer of 21' when they were fresh of a 36-36 record. The difference is now they KNOW the Jays are a championship level duo. Here's what they did after that:

-Traded a mid-round first (#16) and dead salary in Kemba for Al Horford.
-Traded salary filler in Romeo Langford and late first (#25) along with swap in 28' for Derick White.
-Developed Pritchard (#25 in 2020), Hauser (Undrafted 2021), Kornet (undrafted retread).
-Traded a guy who is always injured in Rob Williams and a guy out of the league in Brogdon, 2024 that ended up #14 first, 2029 unprotected
-Trade Marcus Smart right before he fell apart plus #35 for Porzingis, #25 and another first. 

Every one of those deals/avenues above are replicable again, there's no asset they had then that they don't have now other than having 1 less tradeable first. In some ways they are better off because they aren't saddled with a massive dead contract the way they were with Kemba back in 2021.

They need to do things we've already seen them do like find undervalued vets like Horford/White. Develop late firsts/undrafted guys Hauser/Pritchard/Kornet. They won't get everything right; they didn't last time either. They'd probably like the Nesmith/Brogdon trade back for example. But they do have a track record, so in brad we must trust.
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