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Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #180 on: Yesterday at 11:46:50 AM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #181 on: Yesterday at 12:47:59 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

He forgot to mention the 8 turnovers as the Lakers lost by 14.

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #182 on: Yesterday at 01:03:46 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

He forgot to mention the 8 turnovers as the Lakers lost by 14.

Even with 8 turnovers, A Reaves was still efficient.

13-22 FGA
12-14 FTA (7 possessions)
8 turnovers (8 poss)

So a total of 37 possessions. He still got 41pts. Plus his 5ast.

A Reaves = 41pts on 37 possessions

Rest of LAL = 67pts on 64 FGA + 12 FTA (6 poss) + 15 turnovers. So 67 points on 85 possessions.

The man was carrying a poor LAL team missing LeBron & Luka. A Reaves played great. He deserves his due.

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Portland are no mugs. They have a solid team. A strong defense. A Reaves did that to them.

POR = 122pts on 103 FGA + 15 FTA (7 poss) + 18 turnovers. So 122pts on 128 poss.

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #183 on: Yesterday at 01:27:43 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

He forgot to mention the 8 turnovers as the Lakers lost by 14.

Even with 8 turnovers, A Reaves was still efficient.

13-22 FGA
12-14 FTA (7 possessions)
8 turnovers (8 poss)

So a total of 37 possessions. He still got 41pts. Plus his 5ast.

A Reaves = 41pts on 37 possessions

Rest of LAL = 67pts on 64 FGA + 12 FTA (6 poss) + 15 turnovers. So 67 points on 85 possessions.

The man was carrying a poor LAL team missing LeBron & Luka. A Reaves played great. He deserves his due.

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Portland are no mugs. They have a solid team. A strong defense. A Reaves did that to them.

POR = 122pts on 103 FGA + 15 FTA (7 poss) + 18 turnovers. So 122pts on 128 poss.

Your calculations are off as you forgot to include offensive rebounds, which are the continuation of a possession, not a new one.  Portland averaged 1.15 points per possession last night, better as a team on average than Reaves by himself.  Reaves had a fine night, and the Lakers as a whole were trash, but it was not anything special.  It was a guy using up a lot of possessions with league-average efficiency on a team that was otherwise abysmal.

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #184 on: Yesterday at 01:41:02 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

He forgot to mention the 8 turnovers as the Lakers lost by 14.

Even with 8 turnovers, A Reaves was still efficient.

13-22 FGA
12-14 FTA (7 possessions)
8 turnovers (8 poss)

So a total of 37 possessions. He still got 41pts. Plus his 5ast.

A Reaves = 41pts on 37 possessions

Rest of LAL = 67pts on 64 FGA + 12 FTA (6 poss) + 15 turnovers. So 67 points on 85 possessions.

The man was carrying a poor LAL team missing LeBron & Luka. A Reaves played great. He deserves his due.

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Portland are no mugs. They have a solid team. A strong defense. A Reaves did that to them.

POR = 122pts on 103 FGA + 15 FTA (7 poss) + 18 turnovers. So 122pts on 128 poss.

Your calculations are off as you forgot to include offensive rebounds, which are the continuation of a possession, not a new one.  Portland averaged 1.15 points per possession last night, better as a team on average than Reaves by himself.  Reaves had a fine night, and the Lakers as a whole were trash, but it was not anything special.  It was a guy using up a lot of possessions with league-average efficiency on a team that was otherwise abysmal.

I was counting offensive rebounds as a new possession. That was intentional.

The stat I was using is not four factors off rating / def rating or TS% for scoring efficiency. It is personal scoring efficiency with turnovers included which TS% doesn't account for.

Poss = FGA + (0.5*FTA) + TOV
PTS/Poss = pts per possession


It is not a widely used stat but one I have always been fond of. It helps show players who are low turnover scorers are actually more efficient than TS% shows them as (Dirk, Big Al, MJ, LeBron). And also high turnover players are actually less efficient scorers than TS% shows them as (A Reaves in this case or Josh Smith historical case). That is why I like it and why I used it here. Because Reaves had a lot turnovers but was still actually efficient overall despite them. This stats shows that.

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #185 on: Yesterday at 01:43:35 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

Have we reached "Aust-insanity" levels yet?


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« Reply #186 on: Yesterday at 01:59:57 PM »

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Luka Doncic broke Jerry West's record for the most points in the opening 2 games of the season for the Lakers with 92 points. West's record sat at 81 points and stood since the 1969-70 season.

A Reaves just had 92 points in his last 2 games.

He matched Luka's scoring mark from the first 2 games!

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #187 on: Yesterday at 02:56:44 PM »

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Chicago are off to a 3 win 0 loss start. Surprising.

They have beaten 3 teams expected to be in the playoffs in the East in Orlando, Detroit and Atlanta. They are doing this without Coby White (arguably their 2nd best player) who is injured.

G: Tre Jones, Ayo Dosunmu
G: Josh Giddey, Julian Philips
F: Isaac Okoro, Kevin Huerter
F: Matas Buzelis, Pat Williams
C: Nik Vucevic, Jalen Smith

I am watching their game against ATL from yesterday. They pull most of their starters and put their 2nd unit in. Keep Tre Jones. So Jones and 4 bench guys. Dosunmu in the backcourt with him. Huerter and Pat Williams at forward. Jalen Smith at center.

Then later in the quarter they pull Jalen Smith and put back in Okoro. They were playing Pat Williams at center. Vucevic played 34min, Jalen Smith 7min. So they went small with Pat Williams or Matas Buzelis at center for 7min. In Q1, Pat Will was matched up with Okongwu who is a small big (6-8 240lbs). So that is comfortable enough for Pat Will. Okongwu plays some PF as well so they would be matched up at times anyway.

Anyway, the lineup was Pat Williams at center. Huerter and Okoro at forward. Both undersized SFs to big SGs. Then two PGs. A tiny lineup.

Chicago are killing ATL in transition. There doesn't seem to be much paint protection from ATL either. Neither Porzingis or Okongwu protecting the rim. ATL's defense is coming from their wings 2-4 or not at all. They look poor defensively. Just looking at the box score. ATL had 1 block for the entire game.

Kennard is awful defensively. Both a terrible athlete + terrible awareness. They gotta get him out of their rotation. I don't think Kennard is a rotation player in the NBA. Not anymore. If he ever was. But certainly you cannot carry someone that bad defensively when you already doing everything possible to cover Trae Young.

Porzingis looks bad. He looks good on offense but bad on defense. Like the player he was a few years ago when he was only playing one side of the floor. Disengaged on D.

That Mataz Buzelis at center lineup had Giddey at PF, Okoro at SF, J Philips at SG, Dosunmu at PG. ATL had Okongwu at center. Giddey had their best combination of height / bulk in this lineup but Buzelis took Okongwu.
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Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #188 on: Yesterday at 03:49:03 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

Feel a bit like vomiting.

He forgot to mention the 8 turnovers as the Lakers lost by 14.

Even with 8 turnovers, A Reaves was still efficient.

13-22 FGA
12-14 FTA (7 possessions)
8 turnovers (8 poss)

So a total of 37 possessions. He still got 41pts. Plus his 5ast.

A Reaves = 41pts on 37 possessions

Rest of LAL = 67pts on 64 FGA + 12 FTA (6 poss) + 15 turnovers. So 67 points on 85 possessions.

The man was carrying a poor LAL team missing LeBron & Luka. A Reaves played great. He deserves his due.

-------------------

Portland are no mugs. They have a solid team. A strong defense. A Reaves did that to them.

POR = 122pts on 103 FGA + 15 FTA (7 poss) + 18 turnovers. So 122pts on 128 poss.

Your calculations are off as you forgot to include offensive rebounds, which are the continuation of a possession, not a new one.  Portland averaged 1.15 points per possession last night, better as a team on average than Reaves by himself.  Reaves had a fine night, and the Lakers as a whole were trash, but it was not anything special.  It was a guy using up a lot of possessions with league-average efficiency on a team that was otherwise abysmal.

I was counting offensive rebounds as a new possession. That was intentional.

The stat I was using is not four factors off rating / def rating or TS% for scoring efficiency. It is personal scoring efficiency with turnovers included which TS% doesn't account for.

Poss = FGA + (0.5*FTA) + TOV
PTS/Poss = pts per possession


It is not a widely used stat but one I have always been fond of. It helps show players who are low turnover scorers are actually more efficient than TS% shows them as (Dirk, Big Al, MJ, LeBron). And also high turnover players are actually less efficient scorers than TS% shows them as (A Reaves in this case or Josh Smith historical case). That is why I like it and why I used it here. Because Reaves had a lot turnovers but was still actually efficient overall despite them. This stats shows that.

I like this as a measure of scoring efficiency but I will add that some of the advanced stats only take 0.4XFTA instead of 0.5XFTA as the adjustment for possessions.  That accounts for some of the FTA being "and 1" attempts.  No right or wrong, either is an approximation, but this is how some other advanced stats account for this.

Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #189 on: Yesterday at 04:26:38 PM »

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It probably won't last, plus there's always injury risk. But the Spurs look legit to start, and Wemby is scary. At the very least it looks like San Antonio could be a playoff team (or definitely play-in) which would not be an easy series for anyone especially if Wemby is healthy
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Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Reply #190 on: Yesterday at 08:54:22 PM »

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Chicago are off to a 3 win 0 loss start. Surprising.

They have beaten 3 teams expected to be in the playoffs in the East in Orlando, Detroit and Atlanta. They are doing this without Coby White (arguably their 2nd best player) who is injured.

G: Tre Jones, Ayo Dosunmu
G: Josh Giddey, Julian Philips
F: Isaac Okoro, Kevin Huerter
F: Matas Buzelis, Pat Williams
C: Nik Vucevic, Jalen Smith

Bulls got 10 legit players when Coby White returns. Well Jalen Smith is a question mark. 9 legit players plus Jalen Smith. They also have Zach Collins who is injured. And Julian Phillips.

In some ways, the Bulls roster looks better off than the Celtics roster. More legit depth. More NBA rotation quality players. 9 of them. Plus those other 3 guys who you could debate.

In the first 3 games, they have 6 guys averaging double digit points and a 7th guy on 9ppg. Lots of people contributing. On both ends. Their defense is surprisingly solid. Okoro in the starting lineup has given them a wing stopper. Then you got Giddey who at his size can switch comfortably and Buzelis who is a speedy PF jumping passing lanes. They got some big guards (Ayo, C White, Giddey). They got Pat Williams off the bench. Everyone is bought in and competing hard.

I was down on them after trading Lonzo Ball. I thought they wouldn't repeat their success from the 2nd half of last season but they look legit contenders for a playoff / play-in spot. 9 legit rotation players. Guys bought into their roles. Good unity. Commitment.

They could be a .500 team.

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« Reply #191 on: Yesterday at 09:05:40 PM »

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I didn't mention Tre Jones. He looks good. On both ends. A true PG on offense and doing a good job making plays on defense.

13ppg 8.3apg 3.3spg in first 3 games

I never understood why San Antonio didn't play him more. He played well when he got the chance.

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« Reply #192 on: Yesterday at 09:27:27 PM »

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Knueppel has that quick shot release like Hauser where he can catch a high pass near his shoulders / head and just go straight up with the three pointer.

I don't know how Hauser / Knueppel shoot that shot.

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« Reply #193 on: Yesterday at 10:02:58 PM »

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No Norm Powell. No Tyler Herro.

Miami still put up 144pts on Charlotte tonight.

Miami look a lot like Chicago. Light on top level talent (only Bam today) but lots of rotation caliber players. They got 10-11 guys that can play 20 minutes a night. Give you a good 20 minutes a night.

Jamie Jaquez playing great to start the year. 4 games 28mpg 18.8ppg on 68.9% FG 6.3rpg 4.3apg versus 2.3 turnovers per game.
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« Reply #194 on: Yesterday at 10:18:01 PM »

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A Reaves followed up his 51pts 9ast 11reb with 41pts 5ast 4reb.

The more the Lakers wouldn?t be able to keep him, unless Lebron goes elsewhere?