It's going to be a strange year this year 25-26

[slamtheking]

I think it is far more likely Brown is shut down for the year (at some point) than Tatum is to play at all this year.

barring an injury, Brown's not being shutdown this year.  I don't see them shutting him down even if it was the last game of the season and a loss significantly improved the odds of their draft position.

much better odds that Tatum plays late in the season even though I think that'd be ill advised.  (although I would get it if he was fully physically recovered, the season was a flop with them in the lottery and they wanted to give him a couple of games to get a feel for where he is in terms of playing ability going into the summer)

[slamtheking]

I really hope this is the last year we see Queta, Walsh, Garza and Minnot in a Celtics uniform.

I get this year is lost because this is an unserious roster made up with spare parts. But next season needs to change.

not getting the dislike for these guys.

Queta has shown he's at least a solid 3rd string center and based on the Euro play this summer, might actually have improved enough to be the 2nd stringer.  problem is we need a starter-quality but that's on Brad, not Q.

Walsh - I get it.  hasn't shown squat so far.  supposed to be a defensive wiz and hasn't shown that yet -- nevermind the ineptitude on offense.  didn't see anything in summer league to think he's any better.  At least with Springer, we could see real defensive skills and he was cut loose before the end of the season.  not seeing why Walsh is still here at this point.

Garza and Minott haven't even played in a C's uniform yet so you haven't seen them at all in a C's uniform.  Hoping to be pleasantly surprised by them this year but expecting to see why they were buried on the Wolves bench.

[Moranis]

I think it is far more likely Brown is shut down for the year (at some point) than Tatum is to play at all this year.

barring an injury, Brown's not being shutdown this year.  I don't see them shutting him down even if it was the last game of the season and a loss significantly improved the odds of their draft position.

much better odds that Tatum plays late in the season even though I think that'd be ill advised.  (although I would get it if he was fully physically recovered, the season was a flop with them in the lottery and they wanted to give him a couple of games to get a feel for where he is in terms of playing ability going into the summer)

I obviously disagree. I just think of this team is out of it, they are going to shut down Brown and save him for 26-27.  Brown is very injury prone. No reason to play him in meaningless games at end of year. Nor to bring Tatum back to a bad team.  Now maybe the team surprises me and is hovering around .500 and Tatum gets healthy and they make a real push, I just don't see it.

[Moranis]

The Vegas line has moved a lot.  Boston used to be like +220 to miss the playoffs.  The line is now +146.  Lots of money coming on to miss playoffs

[slamtheking]

I think it is far more likely Brown is shut down for the year (at some point) than Tatum is to play at all this year.

barring an injury, Brown's not being shutdown this year.  I don't see them shutting him down even if it was the last game of the season and a loss significantly improved the odds of their draft position.

much better odds that Tatum plays late in the season even though I think that'd be ill advised.  (although I would get it if he was fully physically recovered, the season was a flop with them in the lottery and they wanted to give him a couple of games to get a feel for where he is in terms of playing ability going into the summer)

I obviously disagree. I just think of this team is out of it, they are going to shut down Brown and save him for 26-27.  Brown is very injury prone. No reason to play him in meaningless games at end of year. Nor to bring Tatum back to a bad team.  Now maybe the team surprises me and is hovering around .500 and Tatum gets healthy and they make a real push, I just don't see it.

we don't disagree on the team being out of it this year.  what we disagree on is Brown being shutdown or at least what we consider to be 'shut down'.  To me, that means he's being sat out of at least a thrid of the games for no real reason other than to push for a tank job.  if you only consider him being sat for a handful of games at the end of the season, that's not what I consider being 'shut down'.

[celticinorlando]

I really hope this is the last year we see Queta, Walsh, Garza and Minnot in a Celtics uniform.

I get this year is lost because this is an unserious roster made up with spare parts. But next season needs to change.

not getting the dislike for these guys.

Queta has shown he's at least a solid 3rd string center and based on the Euro play this summer, might actually have improved enough to be the 2nd stringer.  problem is we need a starter-quality but that's on Brad, not Q.

Walsh - I get it.  hasn't shown squat so far.  supposed to be a defensive wiz and hasn't shown that yet -- nevermind the ineptitude on offense.  didn't see anything in summer league to think he's any better.  At least with Springer, we could see real defensive skills and he was cut loose before the end of the season.  not seeing why Walsh is still here at this point.

Garza and Minott haven't even played in a C's uniform yet so you haven't seen them at all in a C's uniform.  Hoping to be pleasantly surprised by them this year but expecting to see why they were buried on the Wolves bench.

You did a good job summarizing my feelings for Walsh. Queta as a starter will be a disaster.

As for Garza and Minott, they simply are cheap bodies Brad signed to cut payroll. I expect they are one and done in Boston. Neither look to be pieces that continue in Boston. Like you said, they were buried on the bench for a reason.

Brad needs to have flexibility heading into next off season to reshape the roster. I expect Simons not to defend much and then get traded at some point.

Of the current roster I would expect Brown, Tatum, White, PP, Hauser Baylor and Hugo to be the guys kept around for 2026-27.

[Neurotic Guy]

I really hope this is the last year we see Queta, Walsh, Garza and Minnot in a Celtics uniform.

I get this year is lost because this is an unserious roster made up with spare parts. But next season needs to change.

not getting the dislike for these guys.

Queta has shown he's at least a solid 3rd string center and based on the Euro play this summer, might actually have improved enough to be the 2nd stringer.  problem is we need a starter-quality but that's on Brad, not Q.

Walsh - I get it.  hasn't shown squat so far.  supposed to be a defensive wiz and hasn't shown that yet -- nevermind the ineptitude on offense.  didn't see anything in summer league to think he's any better.  At least with Springer, we could see real defensive skills and he was cut loose before the end of the season.  not seeing why Walsh is still here at this point.

Garza and Minott haven't even played in a C's uniform yet so you haven't seen them at all in a C's uniform.  Hoping to be pleasantly surprised by them this year but expecting to see why they were buried on the Wolves bench.

You did a good job summarizing my feelings for Walsh. Queta as a starter will be a disaster.

As for Garza and Minott, they simply are cheap bodies Brad signed to cut payroll. I expect they are one and done in Boston. Neither look to be pieces that continue in Boston. Like you said, they were buried on the bench for a reason.

Brad needs to have flexibility heading into next off season to reshape the roster. I expect Simons not to defend much and then get traded at some point.

Of the current roster I would expect Brown, Tatum, White, PP, Hauser Baylor and Hugo to be the guys kept around for 2026-27.

Queta as a starter might be a disaster, but I'm not positive about that. He has some defensive skills and he can finish; decent hands; sees the court fairly well.   Just as we saw marked improvement from Luke last year, the same could happen with Q.  Starter quality probably not, but I think disaster might be overstating - at least from a potential perspective.

Interesting take from CBlog:
https://www.celticsblog.com/celtics-analysis/121374/celticsblog-player-preview-is-neemias-queta-ready-to-start

[slamtheking]

I really hope this is the last year we see Queta, Walsh, Garza and Minnot in a Celtics uniform.

I get this year is lost because this is an unserious roster made up with spare parts. But next season needs to change.

not getting the dislike for these guys.

Queta has shown he's at least a solid 3rd string center and based on the Euro play this summer, might actually have improved enough to be the 2nd stringer.  problem is we need a starter-quality but that's on Brad, not Q.

Walsh - I get it.  hasn't shown squat so far.  supposed to be a defensive wiz and hasn't shown that yet -- nevermind the ineptitude on offense.  didn't see anything in summer league to think he's any better.  At least with Springer, we could see real defensive skills and he was cut loose before the end of the season.  not seeing why Walsh is still here at this point.

Garza and Minott haven't even played in a C's uniform yet so you haven't seen them at all in a C's uniform.  Hoping to be pleasantly surprised by them this year but expecting to see why they were buried on the Wolves bench.

You did a good job summarizing my feelings for Walsh. Queta as a starter will be a disaster.

As for Garza and Minott, they simply are cheap bodies Brad signed to cut payroll. I expect they are one and done in Boston. Neither look to be pieces that continue in Boston. Like you said, they were buried on the bench for a reason.

Brad needs to have flexibility heading into next off season to reshape the roster. I expect Simons not to defend much and then get traded at some point.

Of the current roster I would expect Brown, Tatum, White, PP, Hauser Baylor and Hugo to be the guys kept around for 2026-27.

I think that's a fair assessment of who to keep for 2026-2027 season except I'd add Q to that list.  we're already down to just him as a real center.  can't see Brad jettisoning everyone bigger than JT for that season.  Brad will only be able to add just so much in trades of our scraps and free agency