Shams: C's Sign Boucher/Niang & two future 2nd rounders to Utah for RJ Luis Jr.

[hwangjini_1]

The team is now only a bit more than $12 million above the tax.  I'm sure they're looking to trade Simons.  So, a 3 way where we take back roughly $15 million works.

the celtics have not yet convened a press conference to announce simons, have they? i don't expect simons to have a long-term relationship with the celtics.

i just hope they get some credible assets in return.

[Vermont Green]

The team is now only a bit more than $12 million above the tax.  I'm sure they're looking to trade Simons.  So, a 3 way where we take back roughly $15 million works.

the celtics have not yet convened a press conference to announce simons, have they? i don't expect simons to have a long-term relationship with the celtics.

i just hope they get some credible assets in return.

I suspect that there are many discussions around Simons.  It probably is not so much about if BOS should trade Simons, but more about when.  He is going to have every opportunity to put up numbers on this team.  He may well have more value at the deadline. 

Plus I can see value in getting a good look at him in a Celtics' uniform.  It is not out of the realm of possibility that he carves out a role for himself.  Not as likely as him building up his value and then getting traded, but you never know.

The risk of waiting of course this he could get hurt and/or play poorly or selfishly and reduce his value.  I would bet that based on the opportunity on this team, that he plays well, puts up numbers, and is able to attract some interest.

[Celtics4ever]

The team is now only a bit more than $12 million above the tax.  I'm sure they're looking to trade Simons.  So, a 3 way where we take back roughly $15 million works.

the celtics have not yet convened a press conference to announce simons, have they? i don't expect simons to have a long-term relationship with the celtics.

i just hope they get some credible assets in return.

Which leaves out Terence Mann.

[Moranis]

Bobby marks said 10.2 below 2nd apron & 1.7 below first apron

I would love Stevens to try moving Simons for Nets Terance Mann.   

It would save the Celtics 12 million and it gives the Nets leverage over Cam Thomas.

White
Mann
Brown
Boucher
Garza

Mann is decent and all, but we basically already gave BKN a 1st to take on Mann and the $48M owed to him over the next 3 years in the KP deal. I am sure they would have been thrilled to instead get an expiring Simons making a total of $21M less.

It seems as though the Celtics value the expiring over a player making slightly less. There were even rumblings that we declined #9 and Barrett from TOR for Jrue. Not that we'll really have any money to spend next season with our core all locked up, but the KP TPE and full MLE could come in handy. It's too bad we didn't offload Niang in the KP deal. It would have given us a $30M TPE instead.

If that was the trade, the Celtics blew it not doing that.  Maluach would be a fantastic big man prospect going forward.  And Barrett while signed for 1 year longer is simply better and fills more of a need than Simons (and is then an expiring tradeable contract next summer). 

[keevsnick]

So if RJ is on a two way deal then what exactly is happening with Amari Williams? Norris, Shulga and RJ would make all three two-wat spots spoken for.

Maybe they are keeping the last roster spot for a vet they like, but if they can't find one it goes to Amari?

[JBcat]

Bobby marks said 10.2 below 2nd apron & 1.7 below first apron

I would love Stevens to try moving Simons for Nets Terance Mann.   

It would save the Celtics 12 million and it gives the Nets leverage over Cam Thomas.

White
Mann
Brown
Boucher
Garza

Mann is decent and all, but we basically already gave BKN a 1st to take on Mann and the $48M owed to him over the next 3 years in the KP deal. I am sure they would have been thrilled to instead get an expiring Simons making a total of $21M less.

It seems as though the Celtics value the expiring over a player making slightly less. There were even rumblings that we declined #9 and Barrett from TOR for Jrue. Not that we'll really have any money to spend next season with our core all locked up, but the KP TPE and full MLE could come in handy. It's too bad we didn't offload Niang in the KP deal. It would have given us a $30M TPE instead.

If that was the trade, the Celtics blew it not doing that.  Maluach would be a fantastic big man prospect going forward.  And Barrett while signed for 1 year longer is simply better and fills more of a need than Simons (and is then an expiring tradeable contract next summer).

My recollection is the Raptors offered that package for White not Jrue.

[Neurotic Guy]

Bobby marks said 10.2 below 2nd apron & 1.7 below first apron

I would love Stevens to try moving Simons for Nets Terance Mann.   

It would save the Celtics 12 million and it gives the Nets leverage over Cam Thomas.

White
Mann
Brown
Boucher
Garza

Mann is decent and all, but we basically already gave BKN a 1st to take on Mann and the $48M owed to him over the next 3 years in the KP deal. I am sure they would have been thrilled to instead get an expiring Simons making a total of $21M less.

It seems as though the Celtics value the expiring over a player making slightly less. There were even rumblings that we declined #9 and Barrett from TOR for Jrue. Not that we'll really have any money to spend next season with our core all locked up, but the KP TPE and full MLE could come in handy. It's too bad we didn't offload Niang in the KP deal. It would have given us a $30M TPE instead.

If that was the trade, the Celtics blew it not doing that.  Maluach would be a fantastic big man prospect going forward.  And Barrett while signed for 1 year longer is simply better and fills more of a need than Simons (and is then an expiring tradeable contract next summer).

My recollection is the Raptors offered that package for White not Jrue.

I think few people are privy to true offers and it generally doesn?t benefit anyone who is actually in the know to reveal unaccepted offers after the fact. I would guess that after the fact rumors of what was on the table are incorrect more often than they are correct. 

[JBcat]

Bobby marks said 10.2 below 2nd apron & 1.7 below first apron

I would love Stevens to try moving Simons for Nets Terance Mann.   

It would save the Celtics 12 million and it gives the Nets leverage over Cam Thomas.

White
Mann
Brown
Boucher
Garza

Mann is decent and all, but we basically already gave BKN a 1st to take on Mann and the $48M owed to him over the next 3 years in the KP deal. I am sure they would have been thrilled to instead get an expiring Simons making a total of $21M less.

It seems as though the Celtics value the expiring over a player making slightly less. There were even rumblings that we declined #9 and Barrett from TOR for Jrue. Not that we'll really have any money to spend next season with our core all locked up, but the KP TPE and full MLE could come in handy. It's too bad we didn't offload Niang in the KP deal. It would have given us a $30M TPE instead.

If that was the trade, the Celtics blew it not doing that.  Maluach would be a fantastic big man prospect going forward.  And Barrett while signed for 1 year longer is simply better and fills more of a need than Simons (and is then an expiring tradeable contract next summer).

My recollection is the Raptors offered that package for White not Jrue.

I think few people are privy to true offers and it generally doesn?t benefit anyone who is actually in the know to reveal unaccepted offers after the fact. I would guess that after the fact rumors of what was on the table are incorrect more often than they are correct.

There was a lot of smoke regarding the Raptors offer we shot down and there were plenty of articles out there like this one if you google Derrick White Raptors rumors. I would guess too this particular rumor was correct, hard to say otherwise.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/news/raptors-have-reportedly-offered-package-for-celtics-star-derrick-white

[boscel33]

So now we have no established PF on the roster. Josh Minott is closest thing to that. Hugo Gonzalez looks like the backup PF. Both are SFs.

F: Jaylen, Hauser, J Walsh
F: J Minott, Hugo Gonzalez
C: Queta, L Garza, X Tillman

Those PF and C positions are going to get beaten up a lot next season.

Dude, Hugo is a 6'6" guard.  He'll be a backup PG/SG maybe slipping into a SF role every now and then.

[gift]

have to admit i don't know exactly where the team is going. but i'm glad Niang is gone. it's a sigh of relief like coming home after weeks on the road. i don't have a good reason. it just is what it is.

[Boss_D]

Simons for Kuminga .. go BS make it happen...

[lbgreen33]

It seems Brad had some players he liked. Guys he would have loved to bring in and see what they have. Then with JT going down and getting under the second apron, he is like well I always liked Minot, I thought RJ Louis Jr was a really intriguing kid. I like the signings, they are kinda sneaky good! I liked Boucher, I always thought he needed to add weight, he never really did, but I like his game.
I think this year is shaping up to be really fun!! I love the chance of a kid coming in and surprising everyone. Seems to me Brad does too, he is filling out the roster with possibilities. That will be a lot of fun to watch, can't wait!!

[slamtheking]

It seems Brad had some players he liked. Guys he would have loved to bring in and see what they have. Then with JT going down and getting under the second apron, he is like well I always liked Minot, I thought RJ Louis Jr was a really intriguing kid. I like the signings, they are kinda sneaky good! I liked Boucher, I always thought he needed to add weight, he never really did, but I like his game.
I think this year is shaping up to be really fun!! I love the chance of a kid coming in and surprising everyone. Seems to me Brad does too, he is filling out the roster with possibilities. That will be a lot of fun to watch, can't wait!!

TP for the optimism.  wish I had some for this upcoming season.

lots of players on the roster will have a chance to show what they've got this year.  hoping some of them actually show they can be contributors on a winning team when Tatum is back.  Not expecting any to do so, but would love to see several blow me away this year.

[lbgreen33]

It seems Brad had some players he liked. Guys he would have loved to bring in and see what they have. Then with JT going down and getting under the second apron, he is like well I always liked Minot, I thought RJ Louis Jr was a really intriguing kid. I like the signings, they are kinda sneaky good! I liked Boucher, I always thought he needed to add weight, he never really did, but I like his game.
I think this year is shaping up to be really fun!! I love the chance of a kid coming in and surprising everyone. Seems to me Brad does too, he is filling out the roster with possibilities. That will be a lot of fun to watch, can't wait!!

TP for the optimism.  wish I had some for this upcoming season.

lots of players on the roster will have a chance to show what they've got this year.  hoping some of them actually show they can be contributors on a winning team when Tatum is back.  Not expecting any to do so, but would love to see several blow me away this year.

Thanks, I really love routing for players I think can be good. I am certainly not always right! I remember thinking Dee Brown was going to be a superstar, that never really happened.
I am a big Uconn/St Johns fan, I loved RJ, I was like this kid is gonna be really good, he can score and is a great passer! Then he went undrafted and I was like, what do I know? So ya, I really hope I get to see him play a little this year for the Celtics. We quietly picked up some really intriguing players!!

[DefenseWinsChamps]

So now we have no established PF on the roster. Josh Minott is closest thing to that. Hugo Gonzalez looks like the backup PF. Both are SFs.

F: Jaylen, Hauser, J Walsh
F: J Minott, Hugo Gonzalez
C: Queta, L Garza, X Tillman

Those PF and C positions are going to get beaten up a lot next season.

Dude, Hugo is a 6'6" guard.  He'll be a backup PG/SG maybe slipping into a SF role every now and then.

He's 6'7'' - pretty much the same size as the kid from Arizona that went to the Spurs and is considered a forward.