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Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
« Reply #45 on: July 14, 2025, 10:23:45 PM »

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That?s too bad. There was a pretty egregious illegal screen that happened against Hugo that led directly to a 3. Celtics would have been up by 4 with the ball with just over a minute to go.

Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
« Reply #46 on: July 14, 2025, 10:26:55 PM »

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Walsh had 13pts/3rebs/1stl in 10 mins of play. 5-8 from the field, 1-2 from 3pt. He looks a lot better than everyone else out there for the C?s during this SL.

They were layups and dunks. He only took 2 jump-shots - the two threes that he split. He wasn't making many plays with the ball (self-creation or playmaking). Just transition hoops / opportunistic plays.

Still looked better than anyone else in the game for Boston.

And one of his misses was a wide open dunk, so he easily could have been 6-8.

I don?t really see it coming all together with Walsh, but I agree that he did look like he had it today. Too bad about the ejection

Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2025, 10:29:26 PM »

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I like that Hugo plays hard,  but he seems like he?s a year away form being a year away. Will be fun to watch him in Maine, though.
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Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2025, 10:49:55 PM »

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I like that Hugo plays hard,  but he seems like he?s a year away form being a year away. Will be fun to watch him in Maine, though.

Hugo got spunk.

Walsh, for some reason that i think can only be explained by immaturity took a really nice start, got cocky and feisty, and that became more important than proving his value as a player.  Not good.  I hope he learned something.  He is just 21 (in March) but I have to say that tonight?s non-basketball performance was something that should not happen.

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« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2025, 11:01:01 PM »

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Kinda think the only guy on this summer league roster who matters short-term is Scheierman, and somewhat paradoxically he's also the guy who has nothing to prove here.  Don't give a s*** about how he performs in summer league because he's already flashed the ability to impact games at the next level.  This is just cardio work for him.

Amari Williams... hasn't really impressed me but I do acknowledge that he may get time on the court this season just because of our lack of interior depth otherwise. 

I like Gonzalez long-term but the offense isn't playable yet. 

The rest haven't stood out.  I'm not a big Walsh guy.  I'm not particularly interested in watching him try to be a focal offensive player anyway.  He's not that.  He's a hustle guy who hopefully makes enough threes to be a fungible fringe-rotation player until his rookie contract is up.  Ojeleye, essentially. 

Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2025, 11:09:36 PM »

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I am not sure what the point is in Scheierman even being here. He clearly is not able to create his own offense. We now know that. What else is there for us to learn from him playing here? What is there for him to learn by playing there?

Feels like a waste of time at this point. I'd send him home. No need to play any further. Play the other guys. See if they have anything to offer.

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« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2025, 11:15:43 PM »

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Hugo started out 0-7 FGA. Finished 3-5 FGA. Kept playing. 3-12 overall but kept trying. Did not give up.

1-7 on his threes. A few stood out. The first one was an offensive rebound I think it was and then he dribbled out, rather than resetting the offense he got trigger happy and took a quick 3 from the wing. Missed. Silly shot. Then he took 2 in transition (catch and shoots, not off dribble). The first one he rushed without getting his feet set. The second one he didn't set up his feet properly on the catch, again off balance, missed both. The one he made was a simple catch and shoot from the wing where his feet was set. His shot looked much better that time. That is 4 of the 7 threes. Did not notice the other ones. Clear need to work on his footwork in stepping into 3s. Cut out off the dribble 3s. Reduce his attempts of 3s to where his feet are set. That will help his shooting percentages.

I liked a few of his drives. Used his body well taking it hard to the rim. Got to the FT line. Got to the rim for a finish. Had another one where he was stripped on a floater. He also had some basic drives and simple drive and kicks. Didn't create anything but kept the ball moving. Gave the offense some motion. Connected the play.

Had a number of turnovers today. 1st one made a mistake and dribbled into a trap. 2nd one a sloppy slick ball-handling move which he didn't pull of. 3rd one he got stripped on a drive as he was shooting. Not too bad. A 4th one he got stripped in transition, from behind I think, dribbling in too much traffic. Not sure about the other 2 turnovers. 6 turnovers overall.

10pts 7reb 3ast on 3-12 FGA 3-4 FTA 6 turnovers

Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2025, 11:23:12 PM »

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Walsh had 13pts/3rebs/1stl in 10 mins of play. 5-8 from the field, 1-2 from 3pt. He looks a lot better than everyone else out there for the C?s during this SL.

They were layups and dunks. He only took 2 jump-shots - the two threes that he split. He wasn't making many plays with the ball (self-creation or playmaking). Just transition hoops / opportunistic plays.

Still looked better than anyone else in the game for Boston.

And one of his misses was a wide open dunk, so he easily could have been 6-8.

I don?t really see it coming all together with Walsh, but I agree that he did look like he had it today. Too bad about the ejection


I don?t see it with Walsh either. And being a knucklehead doesn?t help, especially right in front of the new owner and Brad. 
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i could not watch the game, so please tell me about walsh's ejection. what lead to it? thanks.
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Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
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Apparently, Joe sent Walsh a text right after he was ejected and told him he loved it. Anybody else not surprised by this lol?

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Hugo started out 0-7 FGA. Finished 3-5 FGA. Kept playing. 3-12 overall but kept trying. Did not give up.

1-7 on his threes. A few stood out. The first one was an offensive rebound I think it was and then he dribbled out, rather than resetting the offense he got trigger happy and took a quick 3 from the wing. Missed. Silly shot. Then he took 2 in transition (catch and shoots, not off dribble). The first one he rushed without getting his feet set. The second one he didn't set up his feet properly on the catch, again off balance, missed both. The one he made was a simple catch and shoot from the wing where his feet was set. His shot looked much better that time. That is 4 of the 7 threes. Did not notice the other ones. Clear need to work on his footwork in stepping into 3s. Cut out off the dribble 3s. Reduce his attempts of 3s to where his feet are set. That will help his shooting percentages.

I liked a few of his drives. Used his body well taking it hard to the rim. Got to the FT line. Got to the rim for a finish. Had another one where he was stripped on a floater. He also had some basic drives and simple drive and kicks. Didn't create anything but kept the ball moving. Gave the offense some motion. Connected the play.

Had a number of turnovers today. 1st one made a mistake and dribbled into a trap. 2nd one a sloppy slick ball-handling move which he didn't pull of. 3rd one he got stripped on a drive as he was shooting. Not too bad. A 4th one he got stripped in transition, from behind I think, dribbling in too much traffic. Not sure about the other 2 turnovers. 6 turnovers overall.

10pts 7reb 3ast on 3-12 FGA 3-4 FTA 6 turnovers

This seems to add up to a young (19 years old) player who is not quite ready for the NBA.  I was hoping he would go along with being stashed in Europe for at least 1 season. Scheierman is 24, will be 25 by the start of the season.

Why are they rushing Hugo Gonzalez?  I guess if he stays in Europe but doesn't play much, that doesn't do much good but I don't think this season on the Celtics will be all that good for his development either.

Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
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i could not watch the game, so please tell me about walsh's ejection. what lead to it? thanks.

It wasn't much of anything.  Walsh was a little aggressive playing defense, it caused the Heat player to sprawl out of bounds (directly into where Stevens was sitting, haha).  The Heat player got up and charged Walsh, and Walsh pushed him.

He was given a tech, which was his second of the game.  It wasn't due to a flagrant or for fighting or anything like that.


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Hugo started out 0-7 FGA. Finished 3-5 FGA. Kept playing. 3-12 overall but kept trying. Did not give up.

1-7 on his threes. A few stood out. The first one was an offensive rebound I think it was and then he dribbled out, rather than resetting the offense he got trigger happy and took a quick 3 from the wing. Missed. Silly shot. Then he took 2 in transition (catch and shoots, not off dribble). The first one he rushed without getting his feet set. The second one he didn't set up his feet properly on the catch, again off balance, missed both. The one he made was a simple catch and shoot from the wing where his feet was set. His shot looked much better that time. That is 4 of the 7 threes. Did not notice the other ones. Clear need to work on his footwork in stepping into 3s. Cut out off the dribble 3s. Reduce his attempts of 3s to where his feet are set. That will help his shooting percentages.

I liked a few of his drives. Used his body well taking it hard to the rim. Got to the FT line. Got to the rim for a finish. Had another one where he was stripped on a floater. He also had some basic drives and simple drive and kicks. Didn't create anything but kept the ball moving. Gave the offense some motion. Connected the play.

Had a number of turnovers today. 1st one made a mistake and dribbled into a trap. 2nd one a sloppy slick ball-handling move which he didn't pull of. 3rd one he got stripped on a drive as he was shooting. Not too bad. A 4th one he got stripped in transition, from behind I think, dribbling in too much traffic. Not sure about the other 2 turnovers. 6 turnovers overall.

10pts 7reb 3ast on 3-12 FGA 3-4 FTA 6 turnovers

This seems to add up to a young (19 years old) player who is not quite ready for the NBA.  I was hoping he would go along with being stashed in Europe for at least 1 season. Scheierman is 24, will be 25 by the start of the season.

Why are they rushing Hugo Gonzalez?  I guess if he stays in Europe but doesn't play much, that doesn't do much good but I don't think this season on the Celtics will be all that good for his development either.

My guess is that they really like him as a player, but don't like the way he's being handled in Spain.  So, they want him under the direction of the Celtics organization's coaches, trainers, etc. 


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Re: Celtics (2-0) vs Heat (0-2) SL Game #3 7/14/25
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I am not sure what the point is in Scheierman even being here. He clearly is not able to create his own offense. We now know that. What else is there for us to learn from him playing here? What is there for him to learn by playing there?

Feels like a waste of time at this point. I'd send him home. No need to play any further. Play the other guys. See if they have anything to offer.

To work on his defense.
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I am not sure what the point is in Scheierman even being here. He clearly is not able to create his own offense. We now know that. What else is there for us to learn from him playing here? What is there for him to learn by playing there?

Feels like a waste of time at this point. I'd send him home. No need to play any further. Play the other guys. See if they have anything to offer.

To work on his defense.

It?s not working.
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