Any Trade Ideas For PF/C Involving Hauser, Simons And/Or Niang + Picks?

[Celtics4ever]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could play C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

[lbgreen33]

Man, I would not be surprised at all to see Simons gone. But, Brad is a smart guy, why would he take on Simons just to trade him? That makes no sense to me? He is way harder to move than Jrue! The only way I see Brad taking Simons is to make up for the lack of scoring with JT out. If you were moving Jrue for trade assets, then why Simons??

[Goldstar88]

Man, I would not be surprised at all to see Simons gone. But, Brad is a smart guy, why would he take on Simons just to trade him? That makes no sense to me? He is way harder to move than Jrue! The only way I see Brad taking Simons is to make up for the lack of scoring with JT out. If you were moving Jrue for trade assets, then why Simons??

Jrue has a large contract. Simons is an expiring and I don?t think he will be harder to move.

[dannyboy35]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

[lbgreen33]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

[Ilikesports17]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

Two players in the history of the NBA have returned to 100% from this injury.

[Silas]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

Two players in the history of the NBA have returned to 100% from this injury.

I'm intrigued, who were the players you mention and how was it determined that they returned 100% from their injury?

[Celtics2021]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

Two players in the history of the NBA have returned to 100% from this injury.

I'm intrigued, who were the players you mention and how was it determined that they returned 100% from their injury?

Presumably he?s referring to Durant and Dominique.

That said, it is still a rare injury in the NBA, so the sample size is small, but growing.  One should absolutely not count on a full Tatum recovery, but one should not rule it out either.

[Ilikesports17]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

Two players in the history of the NBA have returned to 100% from this injury.

I'm intrigued, who were the players you mention and how was it determined that they returned 100% from their injury?

Should have been less absolute. But Wilkins and Durant are the only two to ever return to anything resembling peak form.

Those are the two I had in mind.

[Silas]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

Two players in the history of the NBA have returned to 100% from this injury.

I'm intrigued, who were the players you mention and how was it determined that they returned 100% from their injury?

Should have been less absolute. But Wilkins and Durant are the only two to ever return to anything resembling peak form.

Those are the two I had in mind.

Ok...thanks.  Perhaps there were other NBA players but not at the same level as Wilkins and Durant.  Anyway, I'm hoping for a full recovery for JT!

[lbgreen33]

Kuzma plays SF most of the time.   I don't think he could C, but maybe PF.

I was hoping we could have scrapped Houser for Wendell Carter but ORL addressed their shooting with Bane.

I too, would like to keep Houser, his value will be even higher if he gets regular minutes.   We desperately need bigs.

Why would Al come back if we are not competing for a title given his age.    Luke has to cash in, and get paid as much as he wants.

    I love Al . Who doesn?t? But I would rather see him on a team that can win big. ( not the Lakers, OKC, Dallas..)
  We can?t expect him to start and starting Luke is pretty atrocious. We are going to be a bad team this coming year. 
  I want to see us take the hits that we have to and not try to band aid any problems. I don?t think Wendell Carter is a good player ( better than Kornet though I know!)
  I want to see us only acquire guys that will help us win big long term. Hauser is a marksman and a passable defender. If possible I?d love to hold on to him.
  Ultimately though , Tatum will never be the same player and I?m sure Brad knows this. I do trust Brad in this to give us the best chance. But I?m expecting a full on tank coming.

WOW!  I had this injury, NO I am not a basketball player, but I am a cameraman that shoots a lot of sports. I am now 63 and my ankle is great!! The injury happened right before I turned 30, it was a long recovery but, when it heals it should not limit him. Also, they have come a long way since I ruptured mine!! Don't want, someone to read this and think that is a given!! The chances are good that Tatum will be fine.

Two players in the history of the NBA have returned to 100% from this injury.

I'm intrigued, who were the players you mention and how was it determined that they returned 100% from their injury?

Should have been less absolute. But Wilkins and Durant are the only two to ever return to anything resembling peak form.

Those are the two I had in mind.

Ok...thanks.  Perhaps there were other NBA players but not at the same level as Wilkins and Durant.  Anyway, I'm hoping for a full recovery for JT!

Kobe was older, but he came back and still played well. Terrell Suggs came back after just 6 months. Aaron Rodgers, David Beckham, Brandon Brooks, D. Cousins, but he never looked the same, but I think it was more than just the achilles, his game deteriorated towards the end. Almost all other these injuries were before the New surgery they have. I think Tatum & Haliburton will set the new standard.

[Celtics2021]

Works in the trade machine:

SAC gets:

Anfernee Simons
Dwight Powell

DAL gets:

Malik Monk

BOS gets:

PJ Washington
Devin Carter
Olivier-Maxence Prosper

Sacramento trades out two guards for a better guard.  Their roster is still weird but it is SAC so their roster will always be weird, and this makes it a little less weird and also better.  SAC will be under the tax line with a 14-man roster if they release the non-guaranteed Terrance Davis, which seems likely to happen with or without this trade.

Dallas clears out its logjam at SF/PF/C behind Davis, Flagg, and Lively/Gafford (although it still has Martin and Marshal to play the wing, and is thus not hurting for depth even post-trade).  Right now their PG rotation is D?Angelo Russell and Brandon Williams, so this is a big upgrade for them at that position.  It also drops them from 16 to 14 roster spots while reducing salary and leaving them with enough room to sign an additional player at the minimum while staying under the hard cap, which they have subjected themselves to already because of signing Russell.

The Celtics save about $5 million in salary while getting a starting PF and a couple of second-tier prospects to throw minutes at.  They can increase their savings by releasing Davison, who is not needed after the acquisition of Carter.

SAC probably gets the worst of this deal, and someone might need to throw them a second for taking on Powell.  The Celtics could also absorb Powell through the Springer TPE if need be and the deal would work the same, although the Celtics would now have an additional player they don?t want or have room for on the roster, and miss out on most of the savings.

[keevsnick]

Two Ideas involving Simons and Walker Kessler

Bucks get Simons
Jazz get Kuzma, 2031 first round draft pick from Bucks, 2027 first round draft pick from Celtics.
Celtics get 22.5 million dollar TPE, completely out of tax, Walker Kessler

Bulls get Simons
Jazz get Zach Collins, 2026 POR 1st via chicago (protected 1-14), 2027 Celtics first
Celtics get 22.5 million TPE, out of tax, Walker Kessler

[Roy H.]

I don't think any team is giving up a #1 for Simons.

[keevsnick]

I don't think any team is giving up a #1 for Simons.

probably not, but part of the value for the Bucks wouldn't just be getting Simons it would be getting off Kuzma who is bad. And if any team was going to it would be a team who currently has no starting level guards.