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Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1110 on: Yesterday at 09:26:35 AM »

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Golden State's main issue will be whether they can get a 3rd scorer alongside them. Podz wasn't consistent enough in the playoffs last season. He was late in the regular season. He wasn't early in the regular season. Kuminga is another option. Or via trade. They need that 3rd option to help them.

Then they will need only 2/3 of Steph / Jimmy / 3rd scorer to play well to give them a great chance of winning. Right now they get vulnerable if only one of Jimmy / Steph play well. If both play well, they are dynamite.

If I was the Warriors, I would try and flip Kuminga (plus Moody & Hield) for Porter Jr (plus salary filler).

Obviously you would have to wait until January & you may have to throw in a draft pick, but I think it would turn them into true contender.

Curry
Butler
Porter Jr
Green
Horford

Podziemski, Payton II, Jackson-Davis, Post, Melton, Curry

You have a higher view of MPJ than I do. But I do like where your head is at.

I know what you mean but MPJ would fit seamlessly into the Steve Kerr system. He would essentially be a poor man version of Durant when he was on the Warriors.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1111 on: Yesterday at 02:26:43 PM »

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Golden State's main issue will be whether they can get a 3rd scorer alongside them. Podz wasn't consistent enough in the playoffs last season. He was late in the regular season. He wasn't early in the regular season. Kuminga is another option. Or via trade. They need that 3rd option to help them.

Then they will need only 2/3 of Steph / Jimmy / 3rd scorer to play well to give them a great chance of winning. Right now they get vulnerable if only one of Jimmy / Steph play well. If both play well, they are dynamite.

If I was the Warriors, I would try and flip Kuminga (plus Moody & Hield) for Porter Jr (plus salary filler).

Obviously you would have to wait until January & you may have to throw in a draft pick, but I think it would turn them into true contender.

Curry
Butler
Porter Jr
Green
Horford

Podziemski, Payton II, Jackson-Davis, Post, Melton, Curry

You have a higher view of MPJ than I do. But I do like where your head is at.

I know what you mean but MPJ would fit seamlessly into the Steve Kerr system. He would essentially be a poor man version of Durant when he was on the Warriors.

That's my problem with MPJ. Most people think that because of his height and shooting.

In reality, he's not a shot creator like Durant. He's an accessory piece that can work off of other scorers. He's not a distributor like Durant - in fact, he's one of the worst for a player of his minutes and scoring in the NBA. He's not a versatile defender like Durant, or anywhere close.

He's the forward version of Klay Thompson, but not as good of a shooter or defender. Plus, he's a big health risk.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1112 on: Yesterday at 05:17:53 PM »

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I think Houston are out of the title mix until they replace VanVleet.

He is too big a loss for them to overcome that with the present options on their roster. Their roster is too flawed. Too limited in ball-handling, passing, outside shooting. They cannot cover the absence of VanVleet with their current options.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1113 on: Yesterday at 05:26:09 PM »

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I'd probably go ...

(1) OKC
(2) Denver
(3) Golden State

* I have Houston out of the title mix until they acquire a replacement for VanVleet.
* I have GSW above Minnesota. They did not fix their issues in the backcourt this off-season. I see Minny as a bigger question mark than GSW.
* LAC have a legit shot but they are even more of a risk than GSW given their reliance on Kawhi's health. They made a lot of roster changes too. Some chemistry risks there. I'm in a wait and see mode with them. I have GSW above LAC for now.
* LAL had a disappointing off-season. They played it safe and kept their assets for future team building instead of going all-in on this LeBron & Luka duo. I do think they could lead a team to a title together but I am not sure they have the help. Ayton needs to have a major impact for them to have a chance. So I have LAL below GSW for now.

(4) LAL
(5) Minnesota
(6) LAC

Any of those top 6 could conceivably win a title.

(7) Houston
[8] San Antonio
(9) Portland
(10) Memphis

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1114 on: Yesterday at 06:09:24 PM »

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I'd probably go ...

(1) OKC
(2) Denver
(3) Golden State

* I have Houston out of the title mix until they acquire a replacement for VanVleet.
* I have GSW above Minnesota. They did not fix their issues in the backcourt this off-season. I see Minny as a bigger question mark than GSW.
* LAC have a legit shot but they are even more of a risk than GSW given their reliance on Kawhi's health. They made a lot of roster changes too. Some chemistry risks there. I'm in a wait and see mode with them. I have GSW above LAC for now.
* LAL had a disappointing off-season. They played it safe and kept their assets for future team building instead of going all-in on this LeBron & Luka duo. I do think they could lead a team to a title together but I am not sure they have the help. Ayton needs to have a major impact for them to have a chance. So I have LAL below GSW for now.

(4) LAL
(5) Minnesota
(6) LAC

Any of those top 6 could conceivably win a title.

(7) Houston
[8] San Antonio
(9) Portland
(10) Memphis
Where?s Dallas?
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Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1115 on: Yesterday at 06:46:52 PM »

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I'd probably go ...

(1) OKC
(2) Denver
(3) Golden State

* I have Houston out of the title mix until they acquire a replacement for VanVleet.
* I have GSW above Minnesota. They did not fix their issues in the backcourt this off-season. I see Minny as a bigger question mark than GSW.
* LAC have a legit shot but they are even more of a risk than GSW given their reliance on Kawhi's health. They made a lot of roster changes too. Some chemistry risks there. I'm in a wait and see mode with them. I have GSW above LAC for now.
* LAL had a disappointing off-season. They played it safe and kept their assets for future team building instead of going all-in on this LeBron & Luka duo. I do think they could lead a team to a title together but I am not sure they have the help. Ayton needs to have a major impact for them to have a chance. So I have LAL below GSW for now.

(4) LAL
(5) Minnesota
(6) LAC

Any of those top 6 could conceivably win a title.

(7) Houston
[8] San Antonio
(9) Portland
(10) Memphis
Where?s Dallas?

Forgot Dallas.

Hmm ... well, they would be in that middle tier alongside LAL, LAC and Minnesota. I am not sure exactly but within that tier. Below the top tier. Above the 3rd tier.

I still have a lot of distrust towards Kyrie & AD as being the #1 option on a title contender. That they can actually lead a team. Two Robins. No Batman. Great team D. Great depth.

Cooper Flagg is a question mark too. More so a question mark because of the double big lineup that will play him at SF and squeeze spacing. Put more pressure on his jump-shot and give him less space to use his athleticism to drive.

Hmm ... behind LAL and Minnesota. Either ahead of LAC or behind LAC.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1116 on: Yesterday at 09:07:38 PM »

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I thought the Lakers did ok in adding Ayton and Smart while keeping almost everyone of note from a 50 win team. Ayton in particular fills a big need for them.  And they still have Luka and LeBron.  If they get a reasonable amount of games from those 2, I'd expect 55 wins or so, which will probably get the 2 seed. 
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Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #1117 on: Yesterday at 09:36:20 PM »

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I thought the Lakers did ok in adding Ayton and Smart while keeping almost everyone of note from a 50 win team. Ayron in particluar fills a big need for them.  And they still have Luka and LeBron.  If they get a reasonable amount of games from those 2, I'd expect 55 wins or so, which will probably get the 2 seed.

Reaves as well. He averaged 20pts/5rebs/6ast on 46/38/88 shooting splits. He?s a good player. Really solid 3rd option.
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