Author Topic: Offseason Thread  (Read 357040 times)

CelticsWhat35, mobilija and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #735 on: Yesterday at 11:19:47 PM »

Offline radiohead

  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7681
  • Tommy Points: 1380
I?m interested to see how Smart responds to JJ Reddick as his coach.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #736 on: Yesterday at 11:36:12 PM »

Offline Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 52796
  • Tommy Points: 2568
Quote
After trying to trade for Bradley Beal twice in the past, the LA Clippers finally have their shooting guard after he signed with the team following a contract buyout with the Phoenix Suns this week.

"The third time is a charm," Clippers president of basketball operations Lawrence Frank said Saturday.

Now, Frank said the Clippers are "strongly considering" a potential reunion with former franchise great Chris Paul to complete their active summer. Paul, the 20-year veteran, is a free agent. The Clippers want to add more playmaking and ballhandling, and the franchise's former quarterback from the Lob City era and all-time assists leader is a possibility.

"What I'd say about Chris is he's a great player," Frank said when asked if the Clippers will sign Paul next. "He's a great Clipper. He obviously possesses some of the qualities we [are looking for]. And, of course, we're strongly, strongly considering him."

I imagine CP3 would come off the bench and push Kris Dunn out of the rotation.

They could start CP3, Beal, Harden, Kawhi, Zubac. Move John Collins to the bench alongside B Lopez, N Batum, Bogdanovic and K Dunn. Part of the reason LAC got John Collins was because Kawhi does not having to play PF. Not sure how happy Kawhi would be about that. CP3 would probably come off the bench.

I forgot Derrick Jones Jr. He is on that team as well.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 11:42:08 PM by Who »

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #737 on: Today at 12:01:02 AM »

Offline Goldstar88

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13536
  • Tommy Points: 1711
I?m interested to see how Smart responds to JJ Reddick as his coach.

Meaning what?
Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
Quote
At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #738 on: Today at 12:05:51 AM »

Offline Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 52796
  • Tommy Points: 2568
Quote
Beal's shooting and scoring is an ideal fit alongside Harden and Kawhi Leonard, and he can help take the ballhandling and distributing burden off the former.

"Not to take any sort of slight at Phoenix, but playing with James is a whole lot different than what their situation was," Frank said. "Obviously, Brad had great success playing with John Wall [in Washington]. He actually had great success playing with Russ [Westbrook in Washington]. So, we can look at those situations.

"I think some of the areas that, especially in his Washington days, that he was able to explore with not the same level of talent [there], I think we'll be able to get a little bit more out of [here]. Like with his pick-and-roll play, it's different when you have the guys that we have spacing the floor and the centers that we have that he will be playing with. Whether it's [Ivica Zubac], whether it's Brook, whether it's John Collins, and you have that nice balance of defense and offense on the floor."

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #739 on: Today at 02:27:41 AM »

Offline radiohead

  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7681
  • Tommy Points: 1380
I?m interested to see how Smart responds to JJ Reddick as his coach.

Meaning what?

Whether JJ can bring out the best in him or will their egos clash? 


Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #740 on: Today at 07:59:01 AM »

Online mobilija

  • NCE
  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3087
  • Tommy Points: 738
Smart to Lakers. Good move for them

Makes me want to puke


I kinda love it.

When rival teams take on your teams washed out players, it?s a bit of a nod. They want what we had but can only have a worse version. It?s like Lawyer Malloy or Bledsoe to the Bills (without the draft pick fleece). Smart is not bringing LA a championship. But if by (slim) chance he does, hat tip.

Btw, Smart was a great player for us. He helped establish a workman, gritty culture in his early years and his best season helped put us on the brink of a Championship. Great draft pick, we maxed out his value as a player and an asset.

Idk about that, Rondo and Avery Bradley both won championships with LA picking up our scraps. Hate that they picked up Smart, just hope he doesn't redefine his youth again

Sure, Rondo was important to that LA championship. They still got a worse version of him but he was def a ceiling raiser throughout his career. I actually think it?s kinda cool that he got a championship w bitter rivals.

I?d point out Rick Fox as the worst (for us) Celtic to Laker. He was an awesome role player and ceiling raiser that helped the Lakers get championships but did nothing for us because we didn?t have the talent around him. They got the best of him. That?s the one that breaks the heart.

Still standby that Smart is not enuff of a player anymore to raise the ceiling of this current Lakers squad.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #741 on: Today at 08:57:42 AM »

Offline Vermont Green

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13580
  • Tommy Points: 1023
I don't begrudge Smart for taking the opportunity in LAL.  It all comes down to his health and durability at this point in his career.  He has not had it the last few season.

As to the Lakers rotation, I am not sure what Hachimura is.  They may be better off with Doncic, Reaves, Smart, LeBron, Ayton.  In any case, I bet you see a lot of that line up through the season.

Re: Offseason Thread
« Reply #742 on: Today at 09:08:01 AM »

Offline Vermont Green

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13580
  • Tommy Points: 1023
I no longer understand the NBA landscape.

Does this mean Khris Middleton and CJ McCollum are also going to get bought out? What's the point of buying out a veteran on an expiring contract, in a contract year, no less? I would've thought it made far more sense to hold onto Smart, raise his value, and then get an asset for him at the deadline. Same goes for Ayton. Buying out Beal and Dame is absolutely bananas to me.

What the hell is going on? The second apron has made everyone lose their minds.
2nd apron has made teams gain some fiscal sense.  There have been a lot fewer bad contracts given to players this offseason. 

No team was going to give up an asset for Smart and his 21M contract.  Wizards are looking to give their young players playing time while they tank.  They lose their pick if it doesn't fall within the top 8.  No team was going to give up assets for Ayton, Beal or Dame. 

Dame was waived and stretched in order to free up space to sign Turner.  Desperate but not bananas move to get Giannis to stay. So far it sounds like it has worked which makes it worth it.   

I'd actually argue the opposite. It feels like teams are panicking and losing their minds. The reason we saw only a few bad contracts moved is because only one team had real cap space.

Smart's deal, as an expiring contract, could've been an asset, either packaged with another expiring to make a run at the next disgruntled star, or used in a trade with a team looking to shed long-term salary while still getting a playoff contributor.

Buyouts, on the other hand, are just dead money. They help ownership cut costs but offer no value to a GM. And we?re seeing more of them this offseason than ever before.

I think what is bearing out is that teams don't mind spending/wasting money.  The tax didn't stop teams from overspending.  That is why the other apron penalties were enacted.  If you can stretch a player and stay under the aprons, it is only a question of money (not sure if WAS even needs to stretch his contract).  I do agree on Smart that it is surprising.  I guess they figured it was going to be hard to trade him.  This tells me they do not expect him to build his value back.  I expect Marcus be a positive for LAL, but no way they would have / could have traded for him.

As someone said above, WAS had 16 guaranteed contracts.  They had to do something.  He might have contributed to winning which I am not sure is something WAS wanted.  I am sure they tried to trade him but would likely need to take something back.