Offseason Thread

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I love that move for Milwaukee.

G: Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr
G: Gary Trent Jr, AJ Green
F: Kyle Kuzma, Pat Connaughton
F: Giannis, Taureen Prince
C: Myles Turner, Bobby Portis

Not title contention yet. That perimeter crop is too light on high end talent. The big man rotation is fantastic.

It's the right move to try to keep Giannis. They have to do something.

But that roster is not good enough to be an eastern contender. They need a player like Simons.

[tonydelk]

I love that move for Milwaukee.

G: Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr
G: Gary Trent Jr, AJ Green
F: Kyle Kuzma, Pat Connaughton
F: Giannis, Taureen Prince
C: Myles Turner, Bobby Portis

Not title contention yet. That perimeter crop is too light on high end talent. The big man rotation is fantastic.

It's the right move to try to keep Giannis. They have to do something.

But that roster is not good enough to be an eastern contender. They need a player like Simons.

With Giannis they are always in contention.  Their Defense just got better by releasing Dame.  I agree they need another scorer.  I can see Clarkson or Sexton being signed cheaply and if one does then Milwaukee is back at the top of the East.  They did a good job this year.

[Vermont Green]

OK, I think I see how it works, after Stretching Lillard, they are at about $118M with active contracts and holds for Trent, Porter, and Prince.  Add Turner ($24.9M) and they are at about $143M, under the cap so allowable.  Then they can go over the cap to resign their own players (convert holds to contracts).

I don't like their roster though.  I don't think they will be that good.  Maybe they need to consider Kuzma for Simons?  Does MIL have any first round picks to trade?

[Who]

Hmm ... I think that puts Milwaukee up to 4th on my East rankings behind CLE, NYK and ORL. With Atlanta nearby in 5th place.

I think those 5 teams have created some separation from the trailing pack. A lot of competition for those final playoff / play-in spots.

Philly are a wild card who could join the top 5 and make it a top 6.

After that there isn't much you can hang your hat on / depend on to perform. Detroit should be solid but perhaps a bit worse without Schoder and possibly Malik Beasley as well. Indiana still looks like a playoff team on 2nd sight. That is 8.

Boston, Toronto, Miami, Chicago fighting it out for the 2 final play-in spots. Boston behind in that race at the moment but would jump ahead of the pack if Horford returns.

[Birdman]

So far Cleveland, New York, Orlando & Atlanta top 4 teams in East

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I love that move for Milwaukee.

G: Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr
G: Gary Trent Jr, AJ Green
F: Kyle Kuzma, Pat Connaughton
F: Giannis, Taureen Prince
C: Myles Turner, Bobby Portis

Not title contention yet. That perimeter crop is too light on high end talent. The big man rotation is fantastic.

It's the right move to try to keep Giannis. They have to do something.

But that roster is not good enough to be an eastern contender. They need a player like Simons.

With Giannis they are always in contention.  Their Defense just got better by releasing Dame.  I agree they need another scorer.  I can see Clarkson or Sexton being signed cheaply and if one does then Milwaukee is back at the top of the East.  They did a good job this year.

No they aren't a contender with only Giannis. I like Turner, but it's not like he significantly better than Lopez was.

They need more scoring. They aren't a contender without another starting quality scoring guard.

[Phantom255x]

Apparently Giannis isn't happy that they waived Lillard

[Ilikesports17]

Apparently Giannis isn't happy that they waived Lillard

I saw that report and it makes little sense. First it was also reported Giannis helped recruit Turner. Second, Milwaukee only makes this move to appease Giannis.

[OnPoint]

The Celtics need to sign Lillard for the next two years, and allow him to rehab with Tatum

Rehab buddies

[Donoghus]

The Milwaukee Bucks are trading Pat Connaughton and two of their own second-round picks (2031, 2032) to the Charlotte Hornets for Vasilije Micic, sources tell ESPN.

[MattyIce]

Apparently Giannis isn't happy that they waived Lillard

I saw that report and it makes little sense. First it was also reported Giannis helped recruit Turner. Second, Milwaukee only makes this move to appease Giannis.

thats just to be polite to Lillard, and if things don't go well this year he has additional cover to ask out

[Vermont Green]

The Milwaukee Bucks are trading Pat Connaughton and two of their own second-round picks (2031, 2032) to the Charlotte Hornets for Vasilije Micic, sources tell ESPN.

To save $1.4M?

Edit:

I just saw this:

Yossi Gozlan: The Bucks only save $1.3 million here, but Vasilije Micic is reportedly heading back to Europe. He?s expected to give back a significant amount of his $8.1 million salary in a buyout. That should give the Bucks enough cap space to sign Myles Turner.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

The Milwaukee Bucks are trading Pat Connaughton and two of their own second-round picks (2031, 2032) to the Charlotte Hornets for Vasilije Micic, sources tell ESPN.

To save $1.4M?

Three options:
1. They needed to make that trade to sign Turner - I don't think that's true, but cap experts can advise
2. They love Micic
3. This is prelude to another trade.

[tonydelk]

I love that move for Milwaukee.

G: Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr
G: Gary Trent Jr, AJ Green
F: Kyle Kuzma, Pat Connaughton
F: Giannis, Taureen Prince
C: Myles Turner, Bobby Portis

Not title contention yet. That perimeter crop is too light on high end talent. The big man rotation is fantastic.

It's the right move to try to keep Giannis. They have to do something.

But that roster is not good enough to be an eastern contender. They need a player like Simons.

With Giannis they are always in contention.  Their Defense just got better by releasing Dame.  I agree they need another scorer.  I can see Clarkson or Sexton being signed cheaply and if one does then Milwaukee is back at the top of the East.  They did a good job this year.

No they aren't a contender with only Giannis. I like Turner, but it's not like he significantly better than Lopez was.

They need more scoring. They aren't a contender without another starting quality scoring guard.

They definitely need another scorer but the east is so weak with Boston and Indy dropping that they will be a top 5-6 team.  No one in the east looks dominant on paper so anything can happen in a 7 game series.  Giannis is a top 5 player in the world.  I like their chances. 

[Who]

Charlotte's bench is looking solid - with the exception of the center position.

G: Tre Mann, Nick Smith Jr
G: Josh Green, Pat Connaughton
F: Josh Okogie, Kon Knueppel, Liam McNeeley
F: Grant Williams, Tidjane Salaun
C: James Nnaji, Ryan Kalkbrennen

Deep. Lot of talent in those 3rd stringers.