Offseason Thread

[Vermont Green]

They have several pending FA, maybe this is all about sequence.  Stretch Lillard first, then sign Turner with cap space. Then use the full MLE to sign Portis.  Then use TPE as a means to sign Porter, Trent, and Prince?  This will put them over the cap but under the tax line.  They would be hard capped at the tax I believe if they use the full MLE on Portis.

[tonydelk]

Dame waived & stretched per Shams

Wow.  This is a shocker to me.  I don't fee bad for Dame because he still gets paid but what is this going to to or Giannis?

[Vermont Green]

Side note, what a disaster that Lillard trade turned out to be.

[tonydelk]

From Brian robb's article today...doesn't sound like there is much of a market for Simons.

The Celtics continue to explore paths to trimming salary elsewhere per sources but their avenues have not been promising. Anfernee Simons ($27 million) was evidently available for a reason in a Jrue Holiday deal and his market has not been great. Georges Niang ($8.2 million) is probably a little overpaid. The Celtics can move him for nothing but he only makes a small dent in reducing the payroll.

My guess is he is here until the trade deadline when they can offload him for nothing. Worst case is he walks at the end of the year. Same with Niang

But I expect Simons and Niang are rotational players for 2025 in Boston. I can live with Simons...and I am going to have to live with Niang.

Lol - Brian Robb's "sources"

Its a long off-season and it was always likely to see how the initial FA period settled to figure out what to do next.

This is a dumb comment, proven by the fact we don't need to "trim salary" more. That's never been the goal or talked about by anyone in the organization. Brad Stevens himself said they were commited to spending. But their off-season priorities are to regain their flexibility, which they are doing.

The other issue is that Utah just bought out two guards  that can had for much much cheaper then Simons.  Once they go then maybe the interest in Simons will pick up.

[tonydelk]

Shams Charania
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BREAKING: Free agent center Myles Turner has agreed to a four-year, $107 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, plus a player option for year four in 2028-29 and a full 15% trade kicker, sources tell ESPN. Stunner.

Add another team that is ahead of boston in the east.


Shams Charania
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Turner, the longest tenured Pacer, made it known he wished to remain in Indiana. Since the Game 7 exit, Turner?s reps pushed to get a deal done. Ultimately, Indiana?s aversion to the tax, which grew after Tyrese Haliburton?s injury, allowed Bucks to get the new franchise center.

Indy goes from one game from winning it all to the lottery.  If any team can relate to Boston it's Indy fans.  They have a good FO and will be right back in the mix of it in 2 years.

[radiohead]

Bucks are really going to feel some cap pain in the upcoming years.

They?re gonna try one last time to win with Giannis and after that they?ll probably do what Boston is doing now.

[Atzar]

Crazy what these achilles injuries have done.  League-altering injuries, all three of them.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Bucks are really going to feel some cap pain in the upcoming years.

They?re gonna try one last time to win with Giannis and after that they?ll probably do what Boston is doing now.

This trade only makes sense if you have another scoring guard you have confidence in. They seem to be making desperation moves.

I wonder if Simons makes sense for them? Kuzma doesn't as much any more. We could either keep Kuzma or flip him again, all while getting multiple firsts for him?

[Who]

Dame waived & stretched per Shams

Wow! That is a baller move by MIL!

Took a lot of backbone to make that call. Wow.

[Who]

Yabu to the Knicks - surprising

Great signing for the Knicks. Their bench was pathetic last season. They had like 7 guys. Their starting 5 + M Robinson who was injured most of the season + M McBride. Now they have added Yabu + J Clarkson. Two legit NBA players. 9 depth.

G: Brunson, J Clarkson
G: J Hart, M McBride
F: Mikal Bridges
F: OG Anunoby, Yabusele
C: K Towns, M Robinson

Strong squad.

That should be the 2nd best team in the East.

[Who]

I love that move for Milwaukee.

G: Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr
G: Gary Trent Jr, AJ Green
F: Kyle Kuzma, Pat Connaughton
F: Giannis, Taureen Prince
C: Myles Turner, Bobby Portis

Not title contention yet. That perimeter crop is too light on high end talent. The big man rotation is fantastic.

[Who]

Meanwhile, Indy may have just got knocked out of the playoff running. Center was the one position where they had no depth. Now they have lost their starting center. This is going to be doubly painful for Indy.

G: Nembhard, McConnell
G: Mathurin, B Sheppard
F: Nesmith, J Furphy
F: Siakam, Obi Toppin
C: Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant

A pair of 3rd stringers as their center rotation. Finally! Someone with a center rotation as bad as ours!

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Indiana was the team that made D Ayton that huge contract offer years ago. Phoenix matched the offer sheet. Maybe they will go after Ayton again.

[Donoghus]

A little back-shabby in MIL

https://x.com/richwardjr/status/1940074484964200854?s=46&t=cFAQIuWEg12FaJRo2itehw

[OnPoint]

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/milwaukee_bucks/

Hoopshype is lightning fast this year.

Bucks are a disaster, but they still have Giannis which is enough value to get their picks back at the end of the day.

[radiohead]

Meanwhile, Indy may have just got knocked out of the playoff running. Center was the one position where they had no depth. Now they have lost their starting center. This is going to be doubly painful for Indy.

G: Nembhard, McConnell
G: Mathurin, B Sheppard
F: Nesmith, J Furphy
F: Siakam, Obi Toppin
C: Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant

A pair of 3rd stringers as their center rotation. Finally! Someone with a center rotation as bad as ours!

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Indiana was the team that made D Ayton that huge contract offer years ago. Phoenix matched the offer sheet. Maybe they will go after Ayton again.

It?s unthinkable that the last two Eastern Conference Champions are blowing up their team due to injuries and the CBA. This is sad.