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Re: Celtics Draft 2025 (picks 46 and 57)
« Reply #300 on: Yesterday at 03:31:12 PM »

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Brad trading down from the #32 pick still has me steamed.  Williams looks like the next Tako Fall, but not as tall.

Looking at Kalkbrenner again (even though I preferred Raynaud) he reminds me of another #32 pick, Ivica Zubac (7'0", 240lbs).

Kalk is the same height, but is 252lbs.  Same exact game too.

Zubac just averaged 16.8ppg, 12rbs, and 1.1blks.  Tell me you wouldn't love to have that at the center position.

Check out Zubac's highlights and compare them to Kalkbrenner.  Why would we trade out of the possibility of this for the pu-pu platter that Brad traded for?

I hope I get to eat crow one day if one of his picks pans out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X22DK9cSCtw

Re: Celtics Draft 2025 (picks 46 and 57)
« Reply #301 on: Yesterday at 05:09:40 PM »

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If you've observed the NBA for any amount of time, getting emotional about 2nd round picks is a fools errand. Anyone taken in the 2nd round and probably from about #20 down in the first round is a project and the hit rate there isn't great. I would also argue that its not a great idea to draft bigs period because very, very few of them can step in and play right away - or at all during the span of their first contract. So you're developing a guy who can hit free agency right around the time he's ready to help.

I would argue that the Celtics need someone who can step in and play now and be a key factor next year when Tatum returns. As constituted the current team will get destroyed on the boards by even average NBA teams. And the same applies to trying to stop opponents from scoring. Anyone they draft to play the 4 or 5 is likely to be a defensive liablity this year and probably next.

The way to solve the big problem is through a trade (likely with Hauser and other assets) or free agency.  A trade I think is their best hope given the free agent bigs available.

Re: Celtics Draft 2025 (picks 46 and 57)
« Reply #302 on: Yesterday at 06:04:01 PM »

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If you've observed the NBA for any amount of time, getting emotional about 2nd round picks is a fools errand. Anyone taken in the 2nd round and probably from about #20 down in the first round is a project and the hit rate there isn't great. I would also argue that its not a great idea to draft bigs period because very, very few of them can step in and play right away - or at all during the span of their first contract. So you're developing a guy who can hit free agency right around the time he's ready to help.

I would argue that the Celtics need someone who can step in and play now and be a key factor next year when Tatum returns. As constituted the current team will get destroyed on the boards by even average NBA teams. And the same applies to trying to stop opponents from scoring. Anyone they draft to play the 4 or 5 is likely to be a defensive liablity this year and probably next.

The way to solve the big problem is through a trade (likely with Hauser and other assets) or free agency.  A trade I think is their best hope given the free agent bigs available.

If the hit rate was zero, then you'd have a point.  Plus, next year is the perfect time to develop some young guys as it looks like Brad isn't going to risk playing Tatum.

Zubac was averaging 9pts/6rbs in 17mpg by his third year.  Again, a nice problem to have with the 32nd pick in the draft.

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Re: Celtics Draft 2025 (picks 46 and 57)
« Reply #303 on: Yesterday at 06:21:59 PM »

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If you've observed the NBA for any amount of time, getting emotional about 2nd round picks is a fools errand. Anyone taken in the 2nd round and probably from about #20 down in the first round is a project and the hit rate there isn't great. I would also argue that its not a great idea to draft bigs period because very, very few of them can step in and play right away - or at all during the span of their first contract. So you're developing a guy who can hit free agency right around the time he's ready to help.

I would argue that the Celtics need someone who can step in and play now and be a key factor next year when Tatum returns. As constituted the current team will get destroyed on the boards by even average NBA teams. And the same applies to trying to stop opponents from scoring. Anyone they draft to play the 4 or 5 is likely to be a defensive liablity this year and probably next.

The way to solve the big problem is through a trade (likely with Hauser and other assets) or free agency.  A trade I think is their best hope given the free agent bigs available.

If the hit rate was zero, then you'd have a point.  Plus, next year is the perfect time to develop some young guys as it looks like Brad isn't going to risk playing Tatum.

Zubac was averaging 9pts/6rbs in 17mpg by his third year.  Again, a nice problem to have with the 32nd pick in the draft.

You miss every shot you don't take.
The hit rate definitely is greater than zero. My point is you have a better chance of being successful with a known commodity. And don't just focus on offense. Defensively they need to learn how to play without fouling and play NBA defense. The NBA and college games are completely different.  You win NBA games by getting stops in the last 4 minutes as well as making shots. There is no part of the college game that simulates NBA offenses because there's less ground to cover and that's before we talk about the talent level. You're also dealing with veteran players and teams that constantly scout everything you do.  It's not an easy transition.