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Giannis Trade Ideas
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(1) Atlanta = Trae Young & Clint Capela

Hawks new lineup

G: Dyson Daniels
G: Zac Risacher
F: Jalen Johnson
F: Giannis
C: Okongwu

Milwaukee gets a quasi-franchise player to rebuild around in Trae Young along with a starting caliber big man. That would allow them to trade one of B Lopez or C Capela in a subsequent deal.

(2) Boston = Jaylen Brown

G: Jrue Holiday
G: D White
F: J Tatum
F: Giannis
C: Porzingis

Milwaukee gets a strong two-way and former Finals MVP to rebuild around.

G: Kevin Porter Jr
G: Jaylen Brown
F: Kyle Kuzma
F: Bobby Portis
C: Brook Lopez

Two big wings in Jaylen & Kuzma. Two legit bigs up front. A makeshift option at PG while Lillard is out. Maybe wait until next season and see if Lillard can still play at an All-Star level.

(3) Cleveland = two options

Option 1 = Evan Mobley and DeAndre Hunter

Straight swap at PF for both teams. A young and improving All-Star caliber big to replace Giannis. A more established PF to upgrade on Mobley.

Option 2 = Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen for Giannis

A replacement PG for Lillard who offensively is a star level player and a long term replacement at center for Brook Lopez who is aging out in Jarrett Allen.

G: Darius Garland
G: AJ Green
F: K Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: J Allen

That team has a good shot at being a .500 squad.

Meanwhile, Cleveland gets to keep Evan Mobley and play him alongside Giannis in a versatile two big man pairing. They keep Donovan Mitchell as their star guard. They can start Max Strus in the backcourt next to him. Maybe DeAndre Hunter at SF.

G: D Mitchell
G: Max Strus
F: D Hunter
F: Giannis
C: Mobley

(4) Denver = Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon

Milwaukee could play Murray at PG while Lillard is out and then shift Murray over to SG when Lillard returns. Aaron Gordon replaces Giannis at PF. Bobby Portis could stay as 6th man. Kuzma, B Lopez. Interesting mix.

Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon may be able to keep them in playoff contention while Lillard is out. Depends on the supporting cast. Could be a bad team if a weak supporting cast. Could be solid if a good supporting cast.

Denver gets to pair Giannis and Jokic together. But they lose their 2 man game with Murray / Jokic. Giannis replaces A Gordon and his needed defensive pairing with Joker. MPJ remains. Guard play is very weak. Maybe they try and turn Giannis into more of a ball-handler than he has been in recent years like he was late in the regular season while Lillard was out. Surround them with 3+D spot up shooters at guard.

(5) Houston

Amen Thompson and A Sengun. Maybe VanVleet or D Brooks as salary filler.

Could they get Giannis without both Amen and Sengun? So 1 of them plus Jalen Green and Jabari Smith Jr. Would that really be enough? Maybe.

(6) Indiana = Siakam, Nembhard and Mathurin

If they need salary filler, maybe Brook Lopez added to the deal.

Nembhard and Mathurin would be the starting backcourt while Lillard is out. Kuzma and Siakam at forward. Maybe Brook Lopez. Maybe a FA replacement at center. Portis as 6th man. That could be a fun athletic team. Likely trading Lillard after he returns.

Indiana would need a replacement at SG through free agency. Giannis would give them a legit go-to guy for the first time since PG13 left the team. Myles Turner is a great big man pairing for Giannis. Haliburton with his passing would be amazing next to Giannis.

(7) LA Lakers = Luka

Straight swap Luka for Giannis.

Lakers lineup

G: A Reaves
G: DFS
F: LeBron
F: Hachimura
C: Giannis

Bucks lineup

G: K Porter Jr
G: Luka
F: Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: B Lopez

The Bucks would need to trade Lopez for a rim running center. They would have Lillard returning in a year. If he could still play at a high level, that pairing would be the equivalent of Luka & Kyrie. If not, they will have to try something else. Kuzma is not a good fit offensively but defensively he can switch matchups with Luka. Portis has some switchability too allowing Luka to take the weakest of the 3 positions.

Luka would be far and away the best individual player MIL could get.

LAL has no other credible offers they can make. Luka or bust.

[8] MEM = Morant & Edey for Giannis

Morant gives them a young star who is highly marketable and talented to build around. Throw in Zach Edey since he doesn't fit well next to Giannis. Memphis can then start Giannis and Jaren Jackson as their big man pairing.

G: S Pippen Jr
G: D Bane
F: (FA)
F: Giannis
C: Jaren Jackson Jr

Bucks

G: Ja Morant
G: AJ Green
F: K Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: Z Edey

Brook Lopez would be trade fodder. I like the way Portis and Kuzma fit next to Edey in the frontcourt. Two long athletic forwards to compensate for Edey's lack of quickness.

(9) Miami = Bam and stuff

I don't like this offer for either team. Bam is a great #2 or #3 but he isn't a guy you can build your franchise around. I also do not like Miami trading Bam. He is their identity. Their culture. As long as he is there, Miami spirit remains. However, for Giannis, it would be something they have to do. I don't think they trade Bam for anything less than an MVP candidate given how important he is to them in terms of team culture.

(10) New Orleans = Zion Williamson

Joe Dumars starts off with a splashy move trading the oft-injured Zion for the win-now Giannis. In terms of individual talent, Zion may be the best MIL can hope to get (aside from Luka).

Straight swap position wise. NOP might need to throw something in. Maybe Dejounte Murray. A replacement for Lillard in the here and now. Possible to play him alongside Lillard a year later.

(11) NYK = Giannis for Towns

Simple swap for both teams. Giannis would likely need to start at center with M Bridges and Anunoby in the frontcourt. A swarming trapping defense. Towns would give them a long term replacement for Brook Lopez and establish a new big man partnership alongside Bobby Portis.

A strong offer. Win-now move but young enough to build around.

(12) OKC = lots of different configurations

I would be wary of making this trade if I were OKC. Giannis is a tougher fit alongside Hartenstein (no range) and SGA (slasher). Chet helps bring the best out of everybody. The chemistry works so well already, I would be reluctant to break it up.

Maybe Chet and Hartenstein for Giannis. Maybe Caruso if salary filler is needed. A 3-for-1. Then you have to find a center who can shoot the 3 reliably for Giannis.

Or you could trade J-Dub and Hartenstein and play Chet and Giannis together.

(13) Orlando = F Wagner

So Franz, KCP or J Isaac, and picks. Maybe A Black.

Keep W Carter Jr to play alongside Giannis. Banchero to SF. Suggs in the backcourt. Need to find a new SG to play alongside them.

Not the best offer but it could be competitive if a few of the top offers do not materialize.

(14) Philly = PG13, a top 5 pick, Jared McCain

Not that interesting an offer until you add the top 5 pick. Some strong talent available in the top 5 of the draft this year. McCain an interesting young guard. PG13 a temporary replacement.

G: McCain
G: (top 5 pick)
F: PG13, Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: B Lopez

They could give it a go with Lillard and PG13 while the youngsters develop. That team could be a lot of fun to watch. And if Lillard returns to a good capacity, a strong team the following campaign.

Or they can blow it all up and sell Lillard, PG13, B Lopez to the highest bidders. Slowly rebuild through the draft with a headstart from their top 5 pick & McCain. Maybe trade Kuzma and Portis as well. Load up on future picks.

Philly

G: Maxey
G: (who knows)
F: (who knows)
F: Giannis
C: Embiid

A terrific Big 3 but the rest of the roster would have nothing. A lot of holes to fill in the off-season to make a title contender and little cap or trade flexability to do it. I might reject it from Philly's standpoint. If I was more confident in Embiid's health long term, I'd roll with a rocky supporting cast 1st year confident I could build a stronger team for next 2-3 years. I don't know.

(15) Phoenix = Devin Booker

A Durant trade would do nothing for Milwaukee. Maybe Durant & Beal for Lillard & Giannis. PHX punt the season and try again in 12 months time. That could work.

MIL could trade either Kuzma or B Portis for a starting PG to play alongside Beal.

G: PG
G: Beal
F: Kuzma / Portis
F: Durant
C: B Lopez

Okay, back to Devin Booker. Devin Booker gives Milwaukee a star in his prime. You can build your offense around him. He can play with Lillard if that is an option in 12 months time MIL wish to pursue. Booker is a bit old for a full rebuild. It would need to be a quick turnaround.

G: K Porter Jr (later Lillard)
G: D Booker
F: Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: B Lopez

A decent squad but nothing special. A maybe playoff team. With Lillard waiting to rejoin at who knows what capability. Probably need to move on from B Lopez by then.

Phoenix would need to talk Kevin Durant off the ledge. Keep him around.

G: Grayson Allen
G: B Beal
F: R O'Neale
F: K Durant
C: Giannis

Suns have no quality big men and won't be able to get a 3+D big with enough quality so starting Giannis at center is their best play. Giannis and Durant would be a nightmare matchup for opponents as their twin bigs. Royce O'Neale or Dunn would give them a bailout option to hide a big man on. Maybe they go smaller in crunch time with a 3 guard alignment.

(16) Portland

I don't like Portland as a trade partner. I was thinking something like Scoot, Shaedon Sharpe, Donovan Clingan and cap filler in the form of Jerami Grant and Rob Williams.

G: A Simons
G: D Avdija
F: T Camara
F: Giannis
C: Ayton

The question I would have is whether there is enough talent there to convince Giannis to join. Anfernee Simons would be replacing Lillard as his #2 option. A bit of a downgrade although I do think Simons would play great next to Giannis. I have often compared A Simons to Jason Terry. Giannis as Dirk with A Simons as JT. Two tough defensive wings in Avdija and T Camara. Avdija would be the 3rd option. An upgrade on Kuzma. Ayton would stay on as the starting center. He has enough of a midrange jump-shot to give some spacing next to Giannis.

It would be a highly athletic and defensive minded lineup ... but not the most convincing star-studded offensive group.

Meanwhile,

The Bucks would get 3 good young players to grow. An immediate contributor at forward in Jerami Grant. And whatever health they can get out of Rob Williams.

G: Scoot, K Porter Jr
G: Shadeon Sharpe, AJ Green
F: Jerami Grant, Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: D Clingan, Rob Williams (Brook trade bait)

They would presumably dump Brook Lopez and Damian Lillard. Rebuild around those young guys. A dynamic starting backcourt with 2 good reserve guards. A good 3 man forward rotation. An impressive young defensive center with two-way promise in Clingan. That is a good rebuilding point.

(17) Sacramento = Sabonis & Keegan Murray

Kings lineup

G: (FA PG)
G: Zach LaVine, Malik Monk
F: DeMar DeRozan
F: Giannis
C: Valanciunas

They might need to include more salary filler. Maybe Monk. LaVine and DeRozan as co-scorers. Jonas as a decent starter next to him. It could be tempting. Giannis would give them more defensive balance.

Milwaukee would get a star center to build around and a young SF with promise.

G: K Porter Jr
G: AJ Green
F: Keegan Murray, Kuzma
F: B Portis
C: D Sabonis, B Lopez

Those three forwards would give Sabonis more defensive protection than he ever had in Sacramento. The guard rotation is weak but Lillard would be back in 12 months time. Either to return as a player or to be shipped off and build around the others.

(18) San Antonio

Keep Wemby & Fox. Everything else on the table.

So 2 main assets would be S Castle and D Vassell. They could include Keldon Johnson. Sochan. They own a bunch of future picks. It would be an assembly offer. Lots of smaller pieces. They would need to see Castle as a future star which is not a hard sell.

Castle is versatile enough to play PG while Lillard is out and then switch to SG and play alongside Lillard in the same backcourt when he returns. Or trade Lillard and go full rebuild. Milwaukee would likely be trading their other vets in Brook, Portis, Kuzma as well. They appear to be on different timelines.

(19) Toronto = Scottie Barnes

Scottie Barnes and J Poeltl for Giannis and Brook Lopez.

Raptors lineup

G: Quickley
G: RJ Barrett
F: B Ingram
F: Giannis
C: B Lopez

Bucks would get a young star in Scottie Barnes to build around and a solid start in Poeltl who is a lot younger than Brook Lopez. They would still have Kuzma and Portis. Lillard to return. Try and develop Barnes as a scorer and have him become an All-Star.

(20) Utah = picks, middling youth

They would need to keep Markkanen to convince Giannis to join. Maybe Kessler goes in the deal since he isn't a great fit next to Giannis. John Collins or Sexton as cap makeweights. Then a flotsam of their mediocre youth and a ton of whatever picks they own. The most draft picks ever traded in a single deal.

Others

Brooklyn = draft picks package
Chicago = N/A, nothing to offer
Charlotte = N/A, nothing to offer
Dallas = Anthony Davis = but that takes them nowhere
Detroit = J Ivey, J Duren, T Hardaway, T Harris package
Golden State = N/A, nothing to offer
LA Clippers = N/A, old stars
Minnesota = Randle out of contract, nothing to offer
Washington = N/A, nothing to offer

Re: Giannis Trade Ideas
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2025, 10:24:55 AM »

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Milwaukee gets the short end of the stick in every one of those offers.  Only 1 that might be intriguing is the deal for Luka.  phenominal offense and bad defense for a do-it-all player whose only weakness is distance shooting.   Luka's the only player offered up that would have a chance of making anything happen with that roster if Lillard can't make it back close to what he was. 

the Jaylen trade is interesting but C's would likely have to kick in someone like White to give Mil good value and that to me is a more than I'd be willing to pay -- 2 key pieces replaced by 1 and no real depth to step up and fill either of those holes.  Giannis, Tatum and Zinger would be a ridiculous starting point for a roster but C's are in a tight spot for filling in around them

Re: Giannis Trade Ideas
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2025, 10:32:52 AM »

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I believe the only player the Celtics could trade for Giannis is Tatum because of the 2nd apron.   


So the Celtics would have to trade away Holiday first taking back a lot less money to get far enough under the 2nd apron to make this work. 


Plus, I think if the Bucks go this route, it is a rebuilding scenario.   Young player and draft picks. 

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2025, 10:51:29 AM »

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TP for the long, detailed post

It'll be fascinating. A LOT of teams will rightfully covet him and actually have the kinds of assets to pull it off if they want. I still think he ends up in Houston especially after this first round exit. Houston feels close, and a superstar like Giannis could put them over the top.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2025, 12:23:58 PM »

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Can a cap expert verify for me - if we first traded a player away to get under the 2nd apron, could we then make a trade for Giannis under the 1st apron rules, allowing us to aggregate salaries or trade for someone with slightly more salary?

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2025, 12:53:24 PM »

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Can a cap expert verify for me - if we first traded a player away to get under the 2nd apron, could we then make a trade for Giannis under the 1st apron rules, allowing us to aggregate salaries or trade for someone with slightly more salary?

Yes, but that's easier said than done. Lets say you cleared out the entire roster besides the starting 5. So no Hauser, Pritchard, draft pick, ect. All gone with no money coming back. White/Holiday/Brown/Tatum/KP make a combined 198.5 million, if you then add 7 empty roster hold charges you'd still be over the projected 2nd apron so you couldn't aggregate salaries.

With just 11 players under contract they are at 226 million, the 2nd apron is 207 million. So really to have any shot of getting under the apron you have to trade one of the big 5 with little or no money coming back in return. That's easier said than done, since very few teams have the cap space to absorb 30 million without sending back money.

But if you could do that and get under the 2nd apron then yes, you could then aggregate salaries for matching purposes. Keep in mind however you can't aggregate salaries in a trade that sends you back into the 2nd apron.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2025, 12:56:42 PM »

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I think that Toronto is going to make a massive push since they?ve clearly always coveted Giannis and Masai is known for making big swings. Not sure if they have the capital or would be willing to part with Scotty Barnes but they for sure want the Giannis experience.

I think Houston will covet Durant more than Giannis from a personality standpoint. I doubt Ime is interested in signing up for the goofy Giannis experience since he?s also a system breaker. If I?m Ime I think I?m one piece away from contention and Giannis is not that piece.
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The Bucks are in a tough position. They don't control their draft picks for 2025-2030 so there's no real reaosn to rebuild. At the same time there's not a lot of trade packages for Giannis that still allow you to compete, especially when your roster is so old and un-atheltic.

Their best bet is probably a trade with someone like Houston who can give you young interesting players and/or high value draft picks that allow you to rebuild through proxy with the suns picks. I'm not even sure how of their young guys they'd have to include. 

How about something like this:

Fred Van Fleet for Salary purposes. He's an expiring contract.
2025 Suns 1st (#9), 2027 Suns 1st, Best of BRK/HOU 2027 1st, 2029 Suns 1st.

That's four potentially premium draft picks that Houston could offer before it even has to touch its current roster of young players. For a team like MIL which owns NONE of its own firsts that sort of draft equity could be real interesting. I think if Houston wants Giannis they might have the inside track.
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This is has the makings to be a really interesting summer, despite a very lackluster free agent class.

Durant (expected) and Giannis (speculated) could both be on new teams next year (and not just swapped for each other).

Then there's Zion, Ja Morant, Trae Young, Booker, Markkanen, Sabonis, etc. Any one of these guys could be traded for Durant/Giannis, each other, or another package altogether.

And then's there Cooper Flagg whose touted as that next generational prospect. There's a 23.6% chance he ends up on an interesting team paired with another superstar (PHI, SA, HOU, Dallas, ATL), jumps to 36.1% if you consider New Orleans/Zion an interesting landing spot.

I will disappointed if we don't get some league wide fireworks this summer.

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2025, 04:25:17 PM »

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Can a cap expert verify for me - if we first traded a player away to get under the 2nd apron, could we then make a trade for Giannis under the 1st apron rules, allowing us to aggregate salaries or trade for someone with slightly more salary?

Yes, but that's easier said than done. Lets say you cleared out the entire roster besides the starting 5. So no Hauser, Pritchard, draft pick, ect. All gone with no money coming back. White/Holiday/Brown/Tatum/KP make a combined 198.5 million, if you then add 7 empty roster hold charges you'd still be over the projected 2nd apron so you couldn't aggregate salaries.

With just 11 players under contract they are at 226 million, the 2nd apron is 207 million. So really to have any shot of getting under the apron you have to trade one of the big 5 with little or no money coming back in return. That's easier said than done, since very few teams have the cap space to absorb 30 million without sending back money.

But if you could do that and get under the 2nd apron then yes, you could then aggregate salaries for matching purposes. Keep in mind however you can't aggregate salaries in a trade that sends you back into the 2nd apron.

That's kinda' what I thought. You'd have to essentially dump one of White, Holliday, or Zinger. Maybe you are able to get a draft pick back and a low-level rotation player on a very small contract.

Then, you'd have to trade Brown and one of those three to get the deal done, plus picks. I do think the Luka trade anchored the market a bit more to the low end if you are including a legitimate all-star in the trade for a superstar. There aren't many other teams that would be willing to do that as the OP showed. As an aside, I think its more like the Bucks want a star back than an OKC-level of warchest, just because they don't even have their own picks.

Celtics probably wind up with something like Zinger-Giannis-Tatum-Pritchard as your core. You resign Craig, hope some of your young guys can develop, and hope you can get some ring chasers. Your depth is shot, but that's a nasty team. The other benefit too is that it resets the 2nd apron clock.

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2025, 04:45:34 PM »

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I think the Bucks would be happy to get Brown and picks for Giannis but Brown doesn't make them all that much younger.  28 vs. 30.  And as described above, we can't do this unless we are under the 2nd apron after the trade.  We would have to trade Porzingis or Holiday to another team.  This doesn't make a lot of sense for either team.  If the rules allowed a straight up trade for Brown, with a couple of picks maybe, that would be an interesting discussion.

I like the post above highlighting all the picks that HOU has to offer.  Those should be very much of interest to MIL.  PHX is going no where fast, their picks should be highly valuable.  But I think they would need to give up more value than Van Vleet.  Maybe start with Sengun (his contract jumps up, not sure when they can trade him). 

Sengun + Brooks for Giannis works on Fanspo Trade Machine.  Then maybe HOU can resign Van Vleet for less than his team option?  Add in some picks (maybe fewer since you are giving up Sengun).  They would have some room to sign another vet with the MLE.  VanVleet + Amen Thompson works also so HOU would have some options.

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2025, 06:39:27 AM »

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I know it probably sounds dumb but I want nothing to do with Giannis on the Celtics?can?t stand him and despite the all time numbers he puts up and having already won a title I find him to be overrated. No thanks!

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I d rather have JB , long as his will heal up good.   Bucks are going lottery , I think Giannis is already got his sights set on a few teams .  Im going with Heat getting him .

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I d rather have JB , long as his will heal up good.   Bucks are going lottery , I think Giannis is already got his sights set on a few teams .  Im going with Heat getting him .

He probably goes with a team on the way up, not the way down. Houston, New York, or Cleveland.

Warriors as my wild card
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2025, 12:19:27 PM »

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I don't think Brown for Giannis makes much sense from a Bucks perspective. All they are doing is swapping out a superstar for a star, it makes them worse and they still have no path to filling out a team thats better than a first round exit. The Celtics don't have any draft picks worth anything since their own first rounders will be guaranteed late round picks with Giannis and Tatum on the same team. So why do that deal? It doesn't really make any sense for the Bucks.

If Bucks trade Giannis is needs to be for young player/picks. Their roster is so barren beyond him that trading him guarantees a rebuild.The key is it has to be a team that would still be good even after trading a pretty big package for giannis. Thats why Houston, OKC or San Antonio make the most sense to me. Those are teams that have both OTHER teams picks and young players they could trade and still keep enough talent around Giannis to be title contenders.

OKC could do Hartenstein/Williams an a ton of first round picks. None are obviously great, but a few have some upside.
HOU could do Senguin/FVV and a few pretty juicy firsts from PHO.
SAS could do Vassell/Castle and a few pretty juicy firsts from ATL.

Two dark horses: Detroit and Orlando. Detroit could do a Ivey/Duran+picks package with their own picks and Orlando a Wagner based package along with their own picks. i don't think these packages are as good as the ones listed above, but might be good enough if the above teams balk.
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