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Re: 2024 MLB Offseason
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2024, 02:03:27 PM »

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Re: 2024 MLB Offseason
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2024, 02:07:07 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2024, 02:29:41 PM »

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Looks like the Sox now have a LH premier No. 1 starter with cost control for two seasons.
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2024, 02:44:47 PM »

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Looks like the Sox now have a LH premier No. 1 starter with cost control for two seasons.

That's the hope, but he's hardly a sure thing at this point. Basically had two really good months last season, and generally didn't go deep into games (though not many people do, these days). But at least it's something more than Boston's usual approach of picking off the scrap heap, lol.
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I love Crochet and think the chances are solid he can have a similar "Chris Sale" or even "Tarik Skubal" like arc in the next year or two. But dang the Sox also gave up a lot. Really wish we kept Teel. Blue chip catching prospects don't just grow on trees. And then adding Montgomery to that package, dang.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2024, 07:49:32 PM »

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Sox still need another high-level starting pitcher, a power RH bat, another bullpen arm, and another depth RH bat.

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White Sox acquiring Garrett Crochet from Red Sox for catcher Kyle Teel, outfielder Braden Montgomery, infielder Chase Meidroth and right-hander Wikelman Gonzalez, sources tell
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Looks like the Sox now have a LH premier No. 1 starter with cost control for two seasons.

That's the hope, but he's hardly a sure thing at this point. Basically had two really good months last season, and generally didn't go deep into games (though not many people do, these days). But at least it's something more than Boston's usual approach of picking off the scrap heap, lol.

Crotchet pitched 146 innings last year and had 209 K?s with a 3.58 ERA and only 33 walks. Sounds good to me.  :)
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2024, 09:45:51 AM »

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On the surface, Crochet looks like a really good get.  A highly promising young lefty starter.  But I can't help wondering why would CWS trade a guy like this?  His total for last season was 32 starts and 146 innings.  That is only about 4.5 innings per start.  Not that good.  And he didn't pitch more than 4 innings for like the last 3 months of the season.  I am guessing that durability is the concern.  Can he hold up as a top line starter, giving you 5-7 innings every start.  I think there is some doubt on that.

That said, I am perfectly happy that the Sox went out and got this guy.  We have a couple of seasons of control to see what we have.  I am not sure they should rush out and sign this guy long term though, unless it is fairly team friendly.  Last season was his first as a starter, I can see that CWS would not want to push the innings count too high.

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On the surface, Crochet looks like a really good get.  A highly promising young lefty starter.  But I can't help wondering why would CWS trade a guy like this? His total for last season was 32 starts and 146 innings.  That is only about 4.5 innings per start.  Not that good.  And he didn't pitch more than 4 innings for like the last 3 months of the season.  I am guessing that durability is the concern.  Can he hold up as a top line starter, giving you 5-7 innings every start.  I think there is some doubt on that.

That said, I am perfectly happy that the Sox went out and got this guy.  We have a couple of seasons of control to see what we have.  I am not sure they should rush out and sign this guy long term though, unless it is fairly team friendly.  Last season was his first as a starter, I can see that CWS would not want to push the innings count too high.

Because the White Sox are arguably the worst run organization in baseball and know they won't spend the money when his contract is up.  His trade value won't be higher than it is now so they're trying to maximize the return. 


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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2024, 12:55:45 PM »

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On the surface, Crochet looks like a really good get.  A highly promising young lefty starter.  But I can't help wondering why would CWS trade a guy like this? His total for last season was 32 starts and 146 innings.  That is only about 4.5 innings per start.  Not that good.  And he didn't pitch more than 4 innings for like the last 3 months of the season.  I am guessing that durability is the concern.  Can he hold up as a top line starter, giving you 5-7 innings every start.  I think there is some doubt on that.

That said, I am perfectly happy that the Sox went out and got this guy.  We have a couple of seasons of control to see what we have.  I am not sure they should rush out and sign this guy long term though, unless it is fairly team friendly.  Last season was his first as a starter, I can see that CWS would not want to push the innings count too high.

Because the White Sox are arguably the worst run organization in baseball and know they won't spend the money when his contract is up.  His trade value won't be higher than it is now so they're trying to maximize the return.

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2024, 01:02:10 PM »

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On the surface, Crochet looks like a really good get.  A highly promising young lefty starter.  But I can't help wondering why would CWS trade a guy like this? His total for last season was 32 starts and 146 innings.  That is only about 4.5 innings per start.  Not that good.  And he didn't pitch more than 4 innings for like the last 3 months of the season.  I am guessing that durability is the concern.  Can he hold up as a top line starter, giving you 5-7 innings every start.  I think there is some doubt on that.

That said, I am perfectly happy that the Sox went out and got this guy.  We have a couple of seasons of control to see what we have.  I am not sure they should rush out and sign this guy long term though, unless it is fairly team friendly.  Last season was his first as a starter, I can see that CWS would not want to push the innings count too high.

Because the White Sox are arguably the worst run organization in baseball and know they won't spend the money when his contract is up.  His trade value won't be higher than it is now so they're trying to maximize the return.

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Maybe they'll trade the prospects for further down the road prospects.
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2024, 01:12:48 PM »

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On the surface, Crochet looks like a really good get.  A highly promising young lefty starter.  But I can't help wondering why would CWS trade a guy like this? His total for last season was 32 starts and 146 innings.  That is only about 4.5 innings per start.  Not that good.  And he didn't pitch more than 4 innings for like the last 3 months of the season.  I am guessing that durability is the concern.  Can he hold up as a top line starter, giving you 5-7 innings every start.  I think there is some doubt on that.

That said, I am perfectly happy that the Sox went out and got this guy.  We have a couple of seasons of control to see what we have.  I am not sure they should rush out and sign this guy long term though, unless it is fairly team friendly.  Last season was his first as a starter, I can see that CWS would not want to push the innings count too high.

Because the White Sox are arguably the worst run organization in baseball and know they won't spend the money when his contract is up.  His trade value won't be higher than it is now so they're trying to maximize the return.

Exactly

Maybe they'll trade the prospects for further down the road prospects.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're the Nashville White Sox in the next decade.  Their lease is up in 2029 and Reinsdorf is notoriously cheap and looking for public handouts for a new stadium which Chicago won't give.  The organization is a joke.


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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2024, 07:35:35 PM »

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On the surface, Crochet looks like a really good get.  A highly promising young lefty starter.  But I can't help wondering why would CWS trade a guy like this? His total for last season was 32 starts and 146 innings.  That is only about 4.5 innings per start.  Not that good.  And he didn't pitch more than 4 innings for like the last 3 months of the season.  I am guessing that durability is the concern.  Can he hold up as a top line starter, giving you 5-7 innings every start.  I think there is some doubt on that.

That said, I am perfectly happy that the Sox went out and got this guy.  We have a couple of seasons of control to see what we have.  I am not sure they should rush out and sign this guy long term though, unless it is fairly team friendly.  Last season was his first as a starter, I can see that CWS would not want to push the innings count too high.

Because the White Sox are arguably the worst run organization in baseball and know they won't spend the money when his contract is up.  His trade value won't be higher than it is now so they're trying to maximize the return.

Exactly

Maybe they'll trade the prospects for further down the road prospects.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're the Nashville White Sox in the next decade.  Their lease is up in 2029 and Reinsdorf is notoriously cheap and looking for public handouts for a new stadium which Chicago won't give.  The organization is a joke.

We're already at the point where about a quarter of MLB teams are basically quad-A talent level, with rosters comprising mostly players who aren't actually MLB-level, and that serve as nothing more than pipelines for the Yankees and Dodgers (and occasionally Red Sox) of the world. The White Sox now fit that profile quite well.
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The 28-year-old Sandoval underwent Tommy John surgery in June and is not expected to pitch until the second half of 2025. Boston nevertheless paid a well-over-market rate to get Sandoval, cognizant of the heavy price of free agent starting pitchers this winter and hopeful that Sandoval can be a solid midrotation starter upon his return.

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Left-hander Patrick Sandoval and the Boston Red Sox are in agreement on a two-year, $18.25 million contract, sources told ESPN, uniting the veteran who was non-tendered in November with a team looking to shore up its pitching depth this year and beyond.

The 28-year-old Sandoval underwent Tommy John surgery in June and is not expected to pitch until the second half of 2025. Boston nevertheless paid a well-over-market rate to get Sandoval, cognizant of the heavy price of free agent starting pitchers this winter and hopeful that Sandoval can be a solid midrotation starter upon his return.

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