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Brad's worst move?
« on: October 14, 2024, 01:20:47 PM »

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There haven't been a lot of them, and some are too soon to tell.  But, to date, what do you think Brad's worst transaction has been?

Here's the list:  https://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/stevebr99x.html



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Re: Brad's worst move?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2024, 01:37:11 PM »

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It has to be bringing in either Gallinari or Muscalla (assuming that "Brad should have done 'x' but didn't" type complaints don't count as bad transactions). And considering that neither of those was really a bad decision (even though neither worked out), that speaks a lot to Brad's track record.

There are plenty of "what ifs" around potential moves we could have made (as there are for every GM), but Brad has done a really impressive job so far. I'm glad he now has the hardware to prove it
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2024, 04:43:36 PM »

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I think passing on Filipowski was a mistake but I guess time will tell.

Not much to complain about with Brad. He gets an A+ for his first 3 years in my book.

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2024, 05:19:46 PM »

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If Lonnie Walker is not on this team and Scheierman or Springer are, that would be his worst move.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2024, 05:31:33 PM »

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I would probably say Enes Kanter (who became a locker room personality freak eventually) and, at the time, the sudden promotion of Joe Mazzulla from Interim coach to Head Coach midseason during All-Star weekend.

After losing to the #8 seeded Miami Heat in the ECF in 2023, was ready to scrutinize Joe the coach and Brad for making this move.


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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2024, 06:22:02 PM »

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Since Joe got the big job done , hats off to Brad .  Not many mis fires to complain about.  He seems to have Brown content .
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Hiring Udoka as head coach.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2024, 06:32:41 PM »

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Not ensuring the coaching staff was filled out when they got rid of Udoka and hired Joe. The Joe decision seems to have worked out but he should have filled out the rest of his staff. Went in to the year down two assistants (Hardy and Joe) and then lost the main assistant in Stoudamire during the season. Even with a veteran coach they should have replaced some assistants never mind with a rookie coach. He didn?t set Joe up for success that first year even if Joe said he didn?t want more assistants. Brad should have demanded it.  But really Brad has been great so it?s nitpicking! 

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Udoka hiring. But that's kind of a necessary hiring for the players to get their guy. It let Joe (an analytics coach) be the next man up without much fight.

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I think the only major one we can point to is the failure to fill out the coaching staff when Ime was let go.  That one seems consequential.

Otherwise, the candidates are largely theoretical:  trading back so many times in 2023 (particularly getting a future ATL #2 instead of drafting TJD); taking Scheierman over Filipowski; trading for Springer and his overpriced contract.


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Hard to think of any real bad moves from Stevens. He's only made one first round pick, we'll have to wait and see how Schiereman turns out but #30 is a crap shoot in any case. His trades have been all been good to great.

One bad move may have been the Jaden Springer trade, they actually traded a decent 2nd rounder for a guy who as of right now they'd probably like to dump just to get off his money. But at the time you understood why they did it, it was to have a slightly larger contract they could use in a trade.

Maybe you could also say the Malcolm Brogdon trade. He played one year here and got hurt in the playoffs, which is an entirely foreseeable thing given his injury history. You gave up a first round pick and Nesmith who developed into a starting level SF, that's a lot for one year of Brogdon. Even if you think he helped you get Jrue, well Nesmith would have had more value in that trade than Brogdon did.

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I think the only major one we can point to is the failure to fill out the coaching staff when Ime was let go.  That one seems consequential.

Otherwise, the candidates are largely theoretical:  trading back so many times in 2023 (particularly getting a future ATL #2 instead of drafting TJD); taking Scheierman over Filipowski; trading for Springer and his overpriced contract.

Sure, but hiring someone beyond Ime and his staff would have made more sense. Generally coaches bring their own personnel.

How about signing Grant Williams to a multi year deal. The best move was trading him the next day.

Stevens has been awesome. I think he was a good coach and seems to be a good GM as well.
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Allowing Walker to be gifted to a rival in the east and keeping Springer, who is not good enough to play at this level.

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The Mo Wagner situation was odd. The Celtics gave up some actual assets in a deal that brought Kornet back and Mo Wagner came in at the same time. Wagner never really got a chance, was waived, and now is a serviceable backup center for a good team.

It's no travesty but it seems like Wagner was brought it as an afterthought and then dismissed without actually considering what he could do. Seems like maybe a missed opportunity.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2024, 06:25:32 PM »

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The Mo Wagner situation was odd. The Celtics gave up some actual assets in a deal that brought Kornet back and Mo Wagner came in at the same time. Wagner never really got a chance, was waived, and now is a serviceable backup center for a good team.

It's no travesty but it seems like Wagner was brought it as an afterthought and then dismissed without actually considering what he could do. Seems like maybe a missed opportunity.

I thought that one was Danny.  Brad coached that listless team that tried to add a spark with Fournier, Wagner and Kornet.


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