Xavier Tillman's Role

[Vermont Green]

Small sample size but here is how Tillman is doing so far:

Tillman + Horford     12 min  / +10
Tillman + Kornet      12 min  /  -5
Tillman + Queta        9 min  /  +7

So 33 min and +12 overall, not bad statistically but the team has been highly + overall, with or without Tillman.  10 Pts and 8 Rebs in those 33 minutes, again, not bad.  I got to see most of both games.  Tillman still did not look 100% comfortable to me.  Still a little anxious or clumsy finishing shots near the rim. 

He is playing about the same minutes as Kornet, that will probably continue, at least until Porzingis gets back.  Solid bench play.

[wdleehi]

Tillman's lack of play lately:  Something he did or didn't do or Queta current play is just to impactful (and they trust Kornet more)?   



I thought Tillman would have been a better choice defensively last night with the switching but it looks like they also planned on letting Anderson take those shots and live with the results.   

[Vermont Green]

Tillman has disappeared, only 12 min in the last 4 games.  Not sure what is going on.  Meanwhile, Walsh has 47 minutes in the last 4 games.  Both have issues getting the ball into the hoop, on the season (values are totals):

Tillman     15 pts / 30% FG% / 27% 3P% / 20 rebs / 6 Asst / +22 / 86 min
Walsh       10 pts / 27% FG% / 17% 3P% / 10 rebs / 1 Asst / +13 / 84 min

Walsh can defend different players so that may be why he has been getting the minutes lately.

[Big333223]

Tillman has disappeared, only 12 min in the last 4 games.  Not sure what is going on.  Meanwhile, Walsh has 47 minutes in the last 4 games.  Both have issues getting the ball into the hoop, on the season (values are totals):

Tillman     15 pts / 30% FG% / 27% 3P% / 20 rebs / 6 Asst / +22 / 86 min
Walsh       10 pts / 27% FG% / 17% 3P% / 10 rebs / 1 Asst / +13 / 84 min

Walsh can defend different players so that may be why he has been getting the minutes lately.

Over those same 4 games Queta is averaging 10-6 in 23 mpg. He's been terrific and gives the C's a different style to attack with.

[Neurotic Guy]

Tillman has disappeared, only 12 min in the last 4 games.  Not sure what is going on.  Meanwhile, Walsh has 47 minutes in the last 4 games.  Both have issues getting the ball into the hoop, on the season (values are totals):

Tillman     15 pts / 30% FG% / 27% 3P% / 20 rebs / 6 Asst / +22 / 86 min
Walsh       10 pts / 27% FG% / 17% 3P% / 10 rebs / 1 Asst / +13 / 84 min

Walsh can defend different players so that may be why he has been getting the minutes lately.

It?s the emergence of Timelord II.  Queta needs that jump hook to become a reliable shot for him.  Always front rims it. Seems very fixable.

[Birdman]

Big Q just keeps getting better, Porzingus comes back, Tillman minutes be zero..wish we got Kyle Anderson he would fit perfect on this team

[Vermont Green]

I added in what Queta and Kornet have done in the last 4 games to the comparison.  Their minutes in the last 4 games are pretty close to what Tillman and Walsh have for the season:

Season
Tillman     15 pts / 30% FG% / 27% 3P% / 20 rebs / 6 Asst / +22 / 86 min (12 min last 4)
Walsh       10 pts / 27% FG% / 17% 3P% / 10 rebs / 1 Asst / +13 / 84 min (47 min last 4)

Last 4 Games
Queta       40 pts / 64% FG% /  0% 3P% / 24 rebs / 2 Asst / +46 / 91 min
Kornet      28 pts / 75% FG% /  0% 3P% / 18 rebs / 6 Asst / +19 / 83 min

I am not sure that Tillman's reduced minutes are due entirely to Queta's added minutes.  Kornet's minutes are trending down also and Walsh's up a little.  But Queta may be the main factor.

[mobilija]

I added in what Queta and Kornet have done in the last 4 games to the comparison.  Their minutes in the last 4 games are pretty close to what Tillman and Walsh have for the season:

Season
Tillman     15 pts / 30% FG% / 27% 3P% / 20 rebs / 6 Asst / +22 / 86 min (12 min last 4)
Walsh       10 pts / 27% FG% / 17% 3P% / 10 rebs / 1 Asst / +13 / 84 min (47 min last 4)

Last 4 Games
Queta       40 pts / 64% FG% /  0% 3P% / 24 rebs / 2 Asst / +46 / 91 min
Kornet      28 pts / 75% FG% /  0% 3P% / 18 rebs / 6 Asst / +19 / 83 min

I am not sure that Tillman's reduced minutes are due entirely to Queta's added minutes.  Kornet's minutes are trending down also and Walsh's up a little.  But Queta may be the main factor.

Walsh?s minutes likely trending up bc of positional value w Brown out. They seem to not want to up Hauser minutes due to his back and there is only so much that the 3 guards can cover for Jaylen without sacrificing too much size.

[Indocelts]

I think Tillman has regressed defensively. He is slow footed and players just blow by him easily. I'm glad that Q takes over his place as I see Tillman as a liability on defense now.

[Surferdad]

I think Tillman has regressed defensively. He is slow footed and players just blow by him easily. I'm glad that Q takes over his place as I see Tillman as a liability on defense now.

I do not think X has regressed. He never impressed me as quick.

[Vermont Green]

Wow, last night vs. BKN was a new low for Tillman.  0 for 3 and -14 in 6 minutes.  UUgghhh!  I am not sure what is going on.  It could be that he just isn't anywhere near as good as I thought/hoped, or maybe he has some injury or the yipps or something.  I don't know.  I think we are at the point where you just don't play him except in garbage time until something changes, that is what his role will be.

Kornet did not play at all last night, he has a hamstring issue of some sort.  I know we don't have a whole lot of options right now.  I know it is tough thing to do to a vet but I think Tillman needs to play in the G-League, when Kornet is back.  Bring up Watson.  Play Walsh more.  If Tillman is not better than what he has been the last 5 or 6 games he has played in, then he is no better than a G-League player.  Tillman is still only 25, only 1 year older than Watson and Scheierman.  Same as Peterson.  They send all of them to the G-League, why not send Tillman, give him a chance to figure this out?

[Redz]

Wow, last night vs. BKN was a new low for Tillman.  0 for 3 and -14 in 6 minutes.  UUgghhh!  I am not sure what is going on.  It could be that he just isn't anywhere near as good as I thought/hoped, or maybe he has some injury or the yipps or something.  I don't know.  I think we are at the point where you just don't play him except in garbage time until something changes, that is what his role will be.

Kornet did not play at all last night, he has a hamstring issue of some sort.  I know we don't have a whole lot of options right now.  I know it is tough thing to do to a vet but I think Tillman needs to play in the G-League, when Kornet is back.  Bring up Watson.  Play Walsh more.  If Tillman is not better than what he has been the last 5 or 6 games he has played in, then he is no better than a G-League player.  Tillman is still only 25, only 1 year older than Watson and Scheierman.  Same as Peterson.  They send all of them to the G-League, why not send Tillman, give him a chance to figure this out?

He's not a starter.  That's for sure.  I think he is good in a specific situation, but those are few and far between.  It does look extra bad when he's taking and bricking a bunch of 3's.

[Surferdad]

Wow, last night vs. BKN was a new low for Tillman.  0 for 3 and -14 in 6 minutes.  UUgghhh!  I am not sure what is going on.  It could be that he just isn't anywhere near as good as I thought/hoped, or maybe he has some injury or the yipps or something.  I don't know.  I think we are at the point where you just don't play him except in garbage time until something changes, that is what his role will be.

Kornet did not play at all last night, he has a hamstring issue of some sort.  I know we don't have a whole lot of options right now.  I know it is tough thing to do to a vet but I think Tillman needs to play in the G-League, when Kornet is back.  Bring up Watson.  Play Walsh more.  If Tillman is not better than what he has been the last 5 or 6 games he has played in, then he is no better than a G-League player.  Tillman is still only 25, only 1 year older than Watson and Scheierman.  Same as Peterson.  They send all of them to the G-League, why not send Tillman, give him a chance to figure this out?

That sounds like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Watson and even Walsh are not NBA-level players yet.

[mobilija]

Wow, last night vs. BKN was a new low for Tillman.  0 for 3 and -14 in 6 minutes.  UUgghhh!  I am not sure what is going on.  It could be that he just isn't anywhere near as good as I thought/hoped, or maybe he has some injury or the yipps or something.  I don't know.  I think we are at the point where you just don't play him except in garbage time until something changes, that is what his role will be.

Kornet did not play at all last night, he has a hamstring issue of some sort.  I know we don't have a whole lot of options right now.  I know it is tough thing to do to a vet but I think Tillman needs to play in the G-League, when Kornet is back.  Bring up Watson.  Play Walsh more.  If Tillman is not better than what he has been the last 5 or 6 games he has played in, then he is no better than a G-League player.  Tillman is still only 25, only 1 year older than Watson and Scheierman.  Same as Peterson.  They send all of them to the G-League, why not send Tillman, give him a chance to figure this out?

That sounds like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Watson and even Walsh are not NBA-level players yet.

Walsh isn?t quite making the best of his opportunities. Would like to see a few more rebounds. If he could just get a few buckets to drop I think that would loosen up his game quite a bit. Dude?s defense is legit tho, he will continue to get playing time for that in the hope that he can start finding some role on offense. I think it will come.

[ozgod]

Wow, last night vs. BKN was a new low for Tillman.  0 for 3 and -14 in 6 minutes.  UUgghhh!  I am not sure what is going on.  It could be that he just isn't anywhere near as good as I thought/hoped, or maybe he has some injury or the yipps or something.  I don't know.  I think we are at the point where you just don't play him except in garbage time until something changes, that is what his role will be.

Kornet did not play at all last night, he has a hamstring issue of some sort.  I know we don't have a whole lot of options right now.  I know it is tough thing to do to a vet but I think Tillman needs to play in the G-League, when Kornet is back.  Bring up Watson.  Play Walsh more.  If Tillman is not better than what he has been the last 5 or 6 games he has played in, then he is no better than a G-League player.  Tillman is still only 25, only 1 year older than Watson and Scheierman.  Same as Peterson.  They send all of them to the G-League, why not send Tillman, give him a chance to figure this out?

He's not a starter.  That's for sure.  I think he is good in a specific situation, but those are few and far between.  It does look extra bad when he's taking and bricking a bunch of 3's.

According to Joe in the post game interview he said that X passed up a few shots that he should have taken and they are trying to impress upon him the fact that he should be taking those 3s even if he is bricking them, because they may not get as good a look later on in the possession. I guess players are ultimately judged by whether they make shots in a make-miss league, but apparently the reason he was sat was less to do with his -14 or bricking shots and more to do with lack of confidence in taking shots when they are available.