2024-25 College Football Season

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Great start by Boston College against Florida State. Bill O?Brien?s new offense is looking sharp.

[Phantom255x]

DJ Uiagalelei is horrible LOL. What was that? BC in a great spot now

[tazzmaniac]

DJ Uiagalelei is horrible LOL. What was that? BC in a great spot now

DJ U isn't good but he's not their biggest problem.  FSU gave up 263yds on the ground while only gaining 21yds. 

[mobilija]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

[Roy H.]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

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Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

[mobilija]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

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Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

[Roy H.]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

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Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

You're calling me willfully ignorant because I ask for some sort of evidence?  Peak 2024.

[Donoghus]

Felt pretty good heading into last night's game but I did not expect BC to throttle FSU the way they did.  My god.  That rushing game.  Offensive line was amazing and BoB seems to have a very well disciplined team.  1 penalty.  Seminoles looked terrible. BC looked very night & day from Hafley last night.

Been a long time since I've felt this optimistic about the BC football program.  Great win.  Hopefully it sets the tone for the season.  Mizzou in two weeks will be a great barometer game.

[Donoghus]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

========

Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

Boo effin' hoo.

[tazzmaniac]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

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Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

FSU lost their best players, including their QB, to the NFL draft not to the portal.  You could see how bad they were offensively, without their QB Travis, last season in the last 2 games before the bowl game. 

Florida State Seminoles football had 10 players drafted in the 2024 NFL Draft ? defensive end Jared Verse (No. 19 overall, Los Angeles Rams), wide receiver Keon Coleman (No. 33 overall, Buffalo Bills), defensive lineman Braden Fiske (No. 39 overall, Los Angeles Rams) safety Renardo Green (No. 64 overall, San Francisco 49ers), running back Trey Benson (No. 66 overall, Arizona Cardinals), defensive back Jarrian Jones (No. 96 overall, Jacksonville Jaguars), quarterback Jordan Travis (No. 171, New York Jets) and wide receiver Johnny Wilson (No. 185 overall, Philadelphia Eagles).

Per On3, they did lose 26 players to the portal but they also picked up 17 players who had a much higher average ranking than the players than they lost (78.35 to 65.81).   

FSU had the 12th best high school recruiting class in 2024.  That was a significant improvement from their prior 3 classes (19th, 20th and 23rd). 

So your baseless speculation doesn't hold any water.  If it did, FSU would NOT have been picked by most everyone to win the ACC and make the playoffs. 

FSU is down because they lost their best players on offense and defense to the NFL.  The pundits stupidly thought that FSU could just reload like elite programs (Bama, Georgia and OSU) do but FSU is not an elite program.   

[Celtics2021]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

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Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

Here?s an article about transfer rankings from June.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-transfer-portal-2024-net-ratings-and-player-totals-for-every-power-four-team/amp/

FSU was ranked tops in the ACC in the transfer portal in terms of net gain (ranking of transfers in compared to transfers out).  Here is some of the blurb:

FSU is arguably the most successful program in the portal era, ranking in the top 25 of 247Sports' rankings every year under Norvell with an average finish at No. 9.

FSU?s failures this year are on their players and coaches.  No more, no less.

[mobilija]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

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Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

You're calling me willfully ignorant because I ask for some sort of evidence?  Peak 2024.

That?s fine, I?m not gonna do the research and look up players names to win the internet. But it?s a fact many players left before the bowl game. And there is a bit of of pot calling kettle black going on here when you claim to know the reason guys left without any evidence of your own.

Edit: I apologize for calling you ignorant, I could have chosen a better word. But also, didn?t intend to be directing it solely at you (or at u at all), it was more of general statement.

[mobilija]

Good information from Celtics 2021 and Tazz, who know and care a lot more than I do. Not so much from Don 

As I said in my earlier post, FSU and the players have to do better.  I?m sure most of them aren?t blaming the committee for their failures and they shouldn?t be. But there is an effect. An entity that controls college sports should be about fair competition and they aren?t. Personally, I find it to make a worse product. Clearly I?m in the minority.

Btw, I?m not a bitter FSU fan. I have no allegiance to them.

[mobilija]

College football at its finest?.

1) Florida State goes undefeated last year only to get left out of the ?playoffs?. They then lose most of their players through the portal and likely recruits as well. Because who wants to play for a team that even if you do the best you can and win ALL your games, they still won?t let you compete at the highest level? The program essentially is destroyed by the ant-competition committee.

2) The next year the same paper pushers decide FSU is ranked #10 but they can?t hang on against the first two average teams they face. Sure, FSU needs to play better but talk about setting up a team for failure. The deciders have helped FSU look like total under achievers.

Too much influence from committees trying to control the narrative and decide who the best teams are.

I'm not sure if this is fair.  What recruits and transfers left because FSU was left out of the playoff? 

FSU was slated to be in the playoff and then they lost their QB, decimating their offense.  I think that talent evaluators (and players) recognized that.  If guys left, it was either to pursue a better chance for playing time somewhere else, or because they recognized that FSU just wasn't all that good.

========

Way to go, BC!  It feels like the first big football win in 20 years.

Not fair to the committee?!? hahaha Good joke.

I don?t know the names of recruits or transfers. I?ll quickly get in over my head here, but I distinctly recall lots of players leaving the program BEFORE their bowl game last year. You think those players would have left if they were in the playoffs?

Neither of us know exactly why any given player decides to transfer or not follow through on their commitment. But to not acknowledge that the committee pushing the program down, not allowing them to compete has a negative effect on the program and its ability to attract players, is willful ignorance.

FSU has their own problems and are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures. But when someone decides on paper that you fail despite doing as well as you possibly could have, that is going to be detrimental to future success. It stinks that they lost their QB but it stinks even more that a bunch of egg heads then told the rest of the team, coaches, program and the nation that they?re not worth a hill of beans.  The program is in tatters now, loosing a talent to injury is part of that but so is decision making outside of the program that has nothing to do with competition and results on the field.

FSU lost their best players, including their QB, to the NFL draft not to the portal.  You could see how bad they were offensively, without their QB Travis, last season in the last 2 games before the bowl game. 

Florida State Seminoles football had 10 players drafted in the 2024 NFL Draft ? defensive end Jared Verse (No. 19 overall, Los Angeles Rams), wide receiver Keon Coleman (No. 33 overall, Buffalo Bills), defensive lineman Braden Fiske (No. 39 overall, Los Angeles Rams) safety Renardo Green (No. 64 overall, San Francisco 49ers), running back Trey Benson (No. 66 overall, Arizona Cardinals), defensive back Jarrian Jones (No. 96 overall, Jacksonville Jaguars), quarterback Jordan Travis (No. 171, New York Jets) and wide receiver Johnny Wilson (No. 185 overall, Philadelphia Eagles).

Per On3, they did lose 26 players to the portal but they also picked up 17 players who had a much higher average ranking than the players than they lost (78.35 to 65.81).   

FSU had the 12th best high school recruiting class in 2024.  That was a significant improvement from their prior 3 classes (19th, 20th and 23rd). 

So your baseless speculation doesn't hold any water.  If it did, FSU would NOT have been picked by most everyone to win the ACC and make the playoffs. 

FSU is down because they lost their best players on offense and defense to the NFL.  The pundits stupidly thought that FSU could just reload like elite programs (Bama, Georgia and OSU) do but FSU is not an elite program.

There is something off here tho?

Great recruiting class and appeared to gain in the transfer calculus, according to the pundits and computers, and picked to make the playoffs and win the ACC. Hence their ranking and yet, they?re not good. Maybe the people who make all those classifications are wrong and that information shouldn?t be deciding who gets to move on to the playoffs? Again, play the games and let that decide to who the best team is because clearly the math is wrong.

My speculation may lack quantitative substance but the contradictions in your post don?t disprove it either. FSU has been in free fall begining with the loss of their star QB and the snub by the powers that control college football.

[Birdman]

Florida State season is over at least for their playoff hopes