Jahmi'us Ramsey

[Goldstar88]

I hope the Celtics sign Ramsey to a 2 way contract. He has good size for a combo guard at 6?4?/200lbs and is athletic. He can also play off-ball unlike Davison.

So far in the summer league he?s averaging 14.7pts, 3rebs, 2ast, 1stl, while shooting 62% from the field 63% from 3pt and 87% from the line.

Ramsey played 1 year at Texas Tech before going pro. He averaged 15pts, 4rebs, 2ast with shooting splits of 44/42/64.

Highlights from todays game: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7U_5Zv2SOGE&pp=ygUPamFobWkndXMgcmFtc2V5

[Atzar]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more? 

[Goldstar88]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

Not sure, but Peterson is going to be 25 this year. JD Is still young (22 in October), but I?m not seeing much improvement from last year. I don?t think he?s going to make it in the league. He can?t play off-ball.

[wiley]

I hope the Celtics sign Ramsey to a 2 way contract. He has good size for a combo guard at 6?4?/200lbs and is athletic. He can also play off-ball unlike Davison.

So far in the summer league he?s averaging 14.7pts, 3rebs, 2ast, 1stl, while shooting 62% from the field 63% from 3pt and 87% from the line.

Ramsey played 1 year at Texas Tech before going pro. He averaged 15pts, 4rebs, 2ast with shooting splits of 44/42/64.

Highlights from todays game: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7U_5Zv2SOGE&pp=ygUPamFobWkndXMgcmFtc2V5

I'm surprised he has to try for a two way...thought he was lock coming out of the draft to be on an NBA's normal roster.
I liked him before the draft as (iirc) he was said to be tough on defense in a Marcus Smart kind of way, leader, gamer, etc...but I hadn't watched him much if at all...I'd be psyched if he could develop with the C's...but maybe no room if Springer is ahead of him..

[Atzar]

I think Ramsey overlaps with Springer a lot.  Both undersized 2-guards whose offense hasn't translated to the league yet.  Springer found a niche with defense.  Ramsey has not and is looking for a roster spot as a result. 

I don't think we need both of them on the roster.  Springer has demonstrated an NBA level skill, so I consider him a better project (and he's already signed anyway).  It won't hurt my feelings if we put Ramsey on a two-way but I don't think he helps us.  JMO. 

[radiohead]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

[Vermont Green]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

[radiohead]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

There?s Enaruna and Harper Jr too who are in the mix. The battle for the 15th slot/2 way spots could really be interesting. I also saw a youtube video suggesting that a reunion with Gallo could be a possibility too.

[Celtics2021]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

The Celtics will not waive Peterson based on two weeks of summer league.  It would be a bad look for them.  If he gets completely outplayed in training camp, maybe, but not summer league, and not two weeks after he signed a deal.  The normal thing would be to convert him to an NBA spot and then give him some cash before releasing him, but that is expensive with the luxury tax this year, so it is much less likely.

[Redz]

I haven't watched a ton of the summer league, but what I've seem he looks like a bulldog. 

[Vermont Green]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

The Celtics will not waive Peterson based on two weeks of summer league.  It would be a bad look for them.  If he gets completely outplayed in training camp, maybe, but not summer league, and not two weeks after he signed a deal.  The normal thing would be to convert him to an NBA spot and then give him some cash before releasing him, but that is expensive with the luxury tax this year, so it is much less likely.

I am not necessarily saying anything would happen based only on Summer League.  They can carry up to 21 into training camp, right?  That would include roster contracts, 2-way contracts, and exhibit 10 contracts.  I think the Celtics are at 14/2/2, total 18 right now.  So as far as waiting until after training camp or preseason, sure, no need to waive anyone before that (unless you want to give them a chance to latch on somewhere else).

But if someone who is on an Exhibit 10 contract is clearly playing better and has more ceiling than Peterson or another 2-way contract player, I think they would make changes.  Summer league performance by someone like Ramsey may get them a Exhibit 10 contract and an invite to camp which could eventually lead to winning a 2-way deal.  Probably not terribly likely, but possible.

[Goldstar88]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

The Celtics will not waive Peterson based on two weeks of summer league.  It would be a bad look for them.  If he gets completely outplayed in training camp, maybe, but not summer league, and not two weeks after he signed a deal.  The normal thing would be to convert him to an NBA spot and then give him some cash before releasing him, but that is expensive with the luxury tax this year, so it is much less likely.

They should waive him as he?s going to be turning 25 and doesn?t have upside. Also, how would that be a bad look?

[Celtics2021]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

The Celtics will not waive Peterson based on two weeks of summer league.  It would be a bad look for them.  If he gets completely outplayed in training camp, maybe, but not summer league, and not two weeks after he signed a deal.  The normal thing would be to convert him to an NBA spot and then give him some cash before releasing him, but that is expensive with the luxury tax this year, so it is much less likely.

They should waive him as he?s going to be turning 25 and doesn?t have upside. Also, how would that be a bad look?

You don?t give a guy a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent, if you?re going to waive him two weeks after he signs the QO, barring extreme circumstances.  If two weeks of non-descript play in Vegas we?re going to make you cut a guy, you never should have made him an RFA to begin with.  It will make other players more reluctant to sign in the future.  It is the type of thing Hinkie would have done.

[Surferdad]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

The Celtics will not waive Peterson based on two weeks of summer league.  It would be a bad look for them.  If he gets completely outplayed in training camp, maybe, but not summer league, and not two weeks after he signed a deal.  The normal thing would be to convert him to an NBA spot and then give him some cash before releasing him, but that is expensive with the luxury tax this year, so it is much less likely.

They should waive him as he?s going to be turning 25 and doesn?t have upside. Also, how would that be a bad look?

You don?t give a guy a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent, if you?re going to waive him two weeks after he signs the QO, barring extreme circumstances.  If two weeks of non-descript play in Vegas we?re going to make you cut a guy, you never should have made him an RFA to begin with.  It will make other players more reluctant to sign in the future.  It is the type of thing Hinkie would have done.

Agreed. Other players are watching how the C?s FO operates and they need to demonstrate the proper level of respect for relationships with other team members.

[Goldstar88]

Who are our two-way guys this upcoming year?  Davison and Peterson, with space for one more?

JD and Petersen are our current 2 ways. I assume Watson gets the third spot. I don?t know how we?ll get to keep Ramsey unless he challenges for the 15th roster spot?

This is all correct, as I understand it.  But 2-way deals are not guaranteed.  There is nothing to stop the Celtics from waiving Peterson (for example) and giving a 2-way to Ramsey.  I am not sure how likely something like this is, but I don't think any of the 2-way spots are necessarily in stone or settled.

The Celtics will not waive Peterson based on two weeks of summer league.  It would be a bad look for them.  If he gets completely outplayed in training camp, maybe, but not summer league, and not two weeks after he signed a deal.  The normal thing would be to convert him to an NBA spot and then give him some cash before releasing him, but that is expensive with the luxury tax this year, so it is much less likely.

They should waive him as he?s going to be turning 25 and doesn?t have upside. Also, how would that be a bad look?

You don?t give a guy a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent, if you?re going to waive him two weeks after he signs the QO, barring extreme circumstances.  If two weeks of non-descript play in Vegas we?re going to make you cut a guy, you never should have made him an RFA to begin with.  It will make other players more reluctant to sign in the future.  It is the type of thing Hinkie would have done.

I didn?t realize they made him an RFA. Maybe Brad thinks he?s going to be another Sam Hauser. I don?t see it, though.