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Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2024, 10:08:52 AM »

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Non Celtics ideas:

Brandon Ingram for Darius Garland. 


Trae Young to Spurs. Keldon Johnson, #8 Pick, filler (hello again Zach Collins) to Portland, Jerami Grant, Malcolm Brogdon to ATL. Other minor contracts can make the salaries work.


Brook Lopez and Connaughton to Dallas for Hardaway and Gafford.  Bucks get younger up front. Mavs get mentor for Lively and more floor spacing.

It does seem like Lopez is going to be traded, but I hadn't thought about the Mavs. I doubt the Mavs will trade Gafford though.

I'm hoping he is traded to the Wizards for Brogdon (or some other bottom-dwelling team) and then is bought out. Maybe he'd come to Boston.
Lopez would be perfect for the Celtics offense, but imagine the outrage in Milwaukee if we ended up with 2 top players from the Bucks championship squad of a couple years ago.   :laugh:

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2024, 10:14:16 AM »

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Let me preface by saying, no way I'd do this, but if Bridges pulled in the load of picks he did, imagine what JT or JB would bring in!  Just saying!!
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Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2024, 10:46:10 AM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.
I dont think think the Nets are going to be that bad.  A lottery team no question, but not horrid.  Thomas, Johnson, Claxton, Finney-Smith, Bojan, Schroder, Simmons (or more likely what they trade him for), etc.  That team seems to have too much talent to truly tank.  I'd say they win in the same neighborhood as they did this year i.e low 30's.

I disagree with you and the Nets do too. The trade they made to get their first next year back shows they plan to tank.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2024, 11:30:56 AM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.

I wouldn't want Brogdon if I were Dallas. Brogdon is too ball-happy. They already got two ball-happy players in Luka and Kyrie. I don't think Brogdon will get enough touches / time on the ball to be happy in Dallas. I would expect to see either massive diminished returns or unhappy team chemistry from Brogdon on that team.

I believe Brogdon's lack of defense would also be a problem. They are already carrying Luka and Kyrie. Their defense has enough problems as it is without adding Brogdon to the list. I do agree with Dallas jettisoning Tim Hardaway though for much of the same reason - bad defense. Timmy needs to go.
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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2024, 12:00:08 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.
I dont think think the Nets are going to be that bad.  A lottery team no question, but not horrid.  Thomas, Johnson, Claxton, Finney-Smith, Bojan, Schroder, Simmons (or more likely what they trade him for), etc.  That team seems to have too much talent to truly tank.  I'd say they win in the same neighborhood as they did this year i.e low 30's.

True they are horrible as present constituted but aren't they going to keep trading off one of the Cams and DFS?

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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2024, 12:10:17 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.

I wouldn't want Brogdon if I were Dallas. Brogdon is too ball-happy. They already got two ball-happy players in Luka and Kyrie. I don't think Brogdon will get enough touches / time on the ball to be happy in Dallas. I would expect to see either massive diminished returns or unhappy team chemistry from Brogdon on that team.

I believe Brogdon's lack of defense would also be a problem. They are already carrying Luka and Kyrie. Their defense has enough problems as it is without adding Brogdon to the list. I do agree with Dallas jettisoning Tim Hardaway though for much of the same reason - bad defense. Timmy needs to go.

I feel like Brogdon will get traded again. Just having a hard time seeing salaries that add up. Dallas has to want to dump Hardaway and I thought Brogdon wouldn't be a bad option when Kyrie sits.

What about Devonte Graham and Zach Collins from Spurs?  Brogdon could play a role in San Antonio like he did for Portland last year.

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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2024, 01:32:21 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.

I wouldn't want Brogdon if I were Dallas. Brogdon is too ball-happy. They already got two ball-happy players in Luka and Kyrie. I don't think Brogdon will get enough touches / time on the ball to be happy in Dallas. I would expect to see either massive diminished returns or unhappy team chemistry from Brogdon on that team.

I believe Brogdon's lack of defense would also be a problem. They are already carrying Luka and Kyrie. Their defense has enough problems as it is without adding Brogdon to the list. I do agree with Dallas jettisoning Tim Hardaway though for much of the same reason - bad defense. Timmy needs to go.

I feel like Brogdon will get traded again. Just having a hard time seeing salaries that add up. Dallas has to want to dump Hardaway and I thought Brogdon wouldn't be a bad option when Kyrie sits.

What about Devonte Graham and Zach Collins from Spurs?  Brogdon could play a role in San Antonio like he did for Portland last year.

I wonder if the Lakers would trade for D'Angelo Russell for Brogdon?

D Russell has been so inconsistent for them. I like Brogdon better. Not as volatile. Not as streaky. More dependable.

If I were LAL, I would start Gabe Vincent and Brogdon together in the backcourt. Let Gabe take the tougher defensive assignments and let Brogdon run the offense. Use A Reaves as a 6th man where he played so well when used there last season.

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« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2024, 01:52:56 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.
I dont think think the Nets are going to be that bad.  A lottery team no question, but not horrid.  Thomas, Johnson, Claxton, Finney-Smith, Bojan, Schroder, Simmons (or more likely what they trade him for), etc.  That team seems to have too much talent to truly tank.  I'd say they win in the same neighborhood as they did this year i.e low 30's.

I disagree with you and the Nets do too. The trade they made to get their first next year back shows they plan to tank.
They didn't tank this year and were in the lottery.  They'd have to move several more players to truly tank. Perhaps they do it, but they also just extended Claxton which isn't a tanking move and they can't move him now.

The Nets are going to be in the lottery, but I don't see them as a truly horrid team.  As presently constructed, I'd put them in the same general win range as they had this year.
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Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2024, 02:05:20 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.
I dont think think the Nets are going to be that bad.  A lottery team no question, but not horrid.  Thomas, Johnson, Claxton, Finney-Smith, Bojan, Schroder, Simmons (or more likely what they trade him for), etc.  That team seems to have too much talent to truly tank.  I'd say they win in the same neighborhood as they did this year i.e low 30's.

I disagree with you and the Nets do too. The trade they made to get their first next year back shows they plan to tank.
They didn't tank this year and were in the lottery.  They'd have to move several more players to truly tank. Perhaps they do it, but they also just extended Claxton which isn't a tanking move and they can't move him now.

The Nets are going to be in the lottery, but I don't see them as a truly horrid team.  As presently constructed, I'd put them in the same general win range as they had this year.

In the East, I have BKN 4th worst with Washington, Detroit and Charlotte worse than them.

I am not sure about the West. The teams I have at the bottom of the West are Portland, San Antonio & Utah. I am still making up my mind about Utah and San An. I do have Portland as worse than BKN.

So 5th-7th draft pick range is where I have BKN right now.

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« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2024, 02:09:40 PM »

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Brogdon could be interesting for the Magic. They have cap space so they may be able to just absorb his contract assuming WAS do not want Brogdon.

G: Suggs
G: Brogdon
F: F Wagner
F: Banchero
C: Wendell Carter Jr

Brogdon would give them another needed offensive weapon. He is a big guard who cannot be beaten up like Cole Anthony is. They have Suggs who can take the toughest assignments. Even F Wagner is versatile enough to take some SGs on and let Brogdon defend a SF if that works better matchup wise to hide Brogdon.

Strong outside shooter. They need a guy they can rely on to make outside shots. Gary Harris couldn't do it for them in the playoffs. Nor could M Fultz. Or Anthony Black. Brogdon would give them 4 legit shooters 5 even with WCJ being a low level outside shooter at center.

They would look a bit like a budget version of BOS. Two big combo guards. Two big forwards. A skilled outside center although nowhere near as good.

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« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2024, 03:24:53 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.

I wouldn't want Brogdon if I were Dallas. Brogdon is too ball-happy. They already got two ball-happy players in Luka and Kyrie. I don't think Brogdon will get enough touches / time on the ball to be happy in Dallas. I would expect to see either massive diminished returns or unhappy team chemistry from Brogdon on that team.

I believe Brogdon's lack of defense would also be a problem. They are already carrying Luka and Kyrie. Their defense has enough problems as it is without adding Brogdon to the list. I do agree with Dallas jettisoning Tim Hardaway though for much of the same reason - bad defense. Timmy needs to go.

I feel like Brogdon will get traded again. Just having a hard time seeing salaries that add up. Dallas has to want to dump Hardaway and I thought Brogdon wouldn't be a bad option when Kyrie sits.

What about Devonte Graham and Zach Collins from Spurs?  Brogdon could play a role in San Antonio like he did for Portland last year.

What about Young and Bey from ATL for brogdon and Kuzma with ATL getting a couple extra picks.  If ATL is rebooting at PG Brogdon is a better fit next to DM than trae was...

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« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2024, 03:54:35 PM »

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Brogdon could be interesting for the Magic. They have cap space so they may be able to just absorb his contract assuming WAS do not want Brogdon.

G: Suggs
G: Brogdon
F: F Wagner
F: Banchero
C: Wendell Carter Jr

Brogdon would give them another needed offensive weapon. He is a big guard who cannot be beaten up like Cole Anthony is. They have Suggs who can take the toughest assignments. Even F Wagner is versatile enough to take some SGs on and let Brogdon defend a SF if that works better matchup wise to hide Brogdon.

Strong outside shooter. They need a guy they can rely on to make outside shots. Gary Harris couldn't do it for them in the playoffs. Nor could M Fultz. Or Anthony Black. Brogdon would give them 4 legit shooters 5 even with WCJ being a low level outside shooter at center.

They would look a bit like a budget version of BOS. Two big combo guards. Two big forwards. A skilled outside center although nowhere near as good.

I could be wrong but I think at this point Brogdon has a negative or at least neutral trade value.

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« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2024, 04:01:46 PM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.

I wouldn't want Brogdon if I were Dallas. Brogdon is too ball-happy. They already got two ball-happy players in Luka and Kyrie. I don't think Brogdon will get enough touches / time on the ball to be happy in Dallas. I would expect to see either massive diminished returns or unhappy team chemistry from Brogdon on that team.

I believe Brogdon's lack of defense would also be a problem. They are already carrying Luka and Kyrie. Their defense has enough problems as it is without adding Brogdon to the list. I do agree with Dallas jettisoning Tim Hardaway though for much of the same reason - bad defense. Timmy needs to go.

I feel like Brogdon will get traded again. Just having a hard time seeing salaries that add up. Dallas has to want to dump Hardaway and I thought Brogdon wouldn't be a bad option when Kyrie sits.

What about Devonte Graham and Zach Collins from Spurs?  Brogdon could play a role in San Antonio like he did for Portland last year.

What about Young and Bey from ATL for brogdon and Kuzma with ATL getting a couple extra picks.  If ATL is rebooting at PG Brogdon is a better fit next to DM than trae was...

Trae Young should have more value than that. He should net a legit All-Star talent in return.

Or a blue chip young prospect. If Washington added Alex Sarr, I would deem that fair value. Alex Sarr is the only guy on the Wizards roster that is worthwhile discussing for Atlanta in exchange for Trae Young.

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« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2024, 04:28:41 PM »

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3 team trade that makes sense to me

Cleveland - Butler, Jovic
Miami - George
LA - Garland, LeVert
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Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2024, 04:54:58 PM »

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3 team trade that makes sense to me

Cleveland - Butler, Jovic
Miami - George
LA - Garland, LeVert

So the new look teams would look like

Cleveland

G: Donovan Mitchell
G: Max Strus
F: Jimmy Butler, Okoro
F: Evan Mobley, D Wade
C: Jarrett Allen

That is an interesting squad. I love the perimeter trio of Mitchell, Strus and Jimmy. Much bigger tougher defensive trio.

I do worry about the shooting in the frontcourt. Two low quality shooters in J Allen and Mobley along with middling shooter in Jimmy Butler. Spacing will be tough for Jimmy & Donovan Mitchell to operate.

It feels like it with need a follow up move to move one of Mobley / J Allen for a shooter at PF or C. But I do like it. They can manage that. And Cleveland would be a much stronger title contender afterwards than they are today.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: Caleb Martin, Highsmith
F: Paul George, Jaquez
C: Adebayo, K Love

I like PG13 here. A better shooter than Jimmy. They could then start Caleb Martin and have two quality shooting forwards along with two quality shooting guards. They have a strong bench with Jaquez, D Robinson, K Love & Highsmith.

They will miss Jimmy's attitude / personality. He is a true leader. PG13 is not. That said, there is a nice chemistry vibe there. More cohesive offense. Guys in a bit more comfortable roles. PG13 more comfortable off ball as well which will give Herro & Rozier more room to do their thing.

Good change. Good option if the marriage between Jimmy & the Heat has soured.

LA Clippers

G: Garland, Westbrook
G: Harden, Norm Powell
F: T Mann, LeVert
F: Kawhi, A Coffey
C: Zubac, Mason Plumlee

I'm not sure about the Clippers. They get quite small at forward without PG13. They have no real big forward on the roster. Kawhi is their biggest SF and can play PF. The rest (Mann, LeVert, Coffey) are more SGs than SFs but can play SF. All are quite small for a PF.

I wonder a bit about Garland and Harden. How well they will share the ball. Then again, I wondered the same about Maxey & Harden and was dead wrong. So I will put that aside.

A Big Three of Garland, Harden & Kawhi. Kawhi the leader. Garland and Harden supporting playmakers & scorers. Some solid role players. T Mann is a very good here as a glue guy. That guy is so versatile. Need him to play PG, cool. Need him to play SG, cool. Need him to play SF, cool. Wherever, whenever. Gets the job done.

I'd probably look to move on from both LeVert and Westbrook. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Too many ball-handlers / guys who want to create on their own. Norm Powell (guard), A Coffey (wing) and Mason Plumlee (big) as three main bench players. Good start for the bench.

I'd prefer to keep PG13 but assuming LAC and PG13 are unable to agree terms, yeah I'd do this deal.

Overall

Nice trade for all 3 teams.