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We're very limited regarding who regarding trades this coming season.  Unless something very unexpected happens, we:

1.  Won't be able to aggregate two or more players in trade;
2.  Won't be able to bring back more salary than we send out;
3.  Won't be able to send cash in trades;
4.  We can't use trade exceptions.

The only two contracts that we have that are over the minimum are Pritchard ($6.7 million) or Springer ($4.02 million).  Again, we can't combine these two salaries together, but we can attach draft picks to either.

Is there anybody out there worth trying for, or are we better off standing pat, drafting somebody, and supplementing our few holes through free agency?

Salaries can be found here:  https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/ (not always precise)


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Re: Is there anybody worth trading Springer/Pritchard + #1 for?
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I've always loved Isaiah Stewart as a Horford replacement down the road. Unfortunately though he signed an extension recently. They could still make it work but it'd cost Pritchard, Springer and maybe 1-2 more young players (like Hauser) just to salary match.
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I?ve felt for a bit that Pritchard would be moved and Springer kept, with a vet free agent PG also joining.  I don?t have many great ideas on who we?d get for Pritchard, and honestly my #1 idea is draft consideration.  It?s not a great draft, but there are some interesting bigs who could go in the early 20s, so perhaps there is a trade partner there.  Yves Missi and Kel?el Ware are my two favorites, but there are some other choices too.  (The dream option is Topic falling far enough that we could move up for him, but that?s just a dream).

In terms of players, Mark Williams could make some sense as a big who?s under an affordable contract for a couple of years, but he doesn?t offer that much savings relative to Pritchard, and he seems like the worse player by a fair margin.  I think Pritchard to the Hornets wouldn?t be a crazy fit that direction, however.

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Is there a period after the season, when you can still trade under the last season rules and salaries? Or was this rule cut in the new CBA? I think this is how we got Porzingis for Smart instead of Brogdon, because there was no more time for the Wizards to check Brogdon?a health? If it is still so, it would mean more options, as we maybe could aggregate salaries and maybe take back more than send away? I tried to search for the info regarding those rules, but couldn?t find anything.

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@Roy, why is this so?
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Won't be able to aggregate two or more players in trade
It eliminates Phantom?s idea of Springer + Pritchard

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Considering the salary woes our team will soon face, Pritchard seems pretty valuable. Next year he makes 6.7 million, and that slowly increases each year until it peaks at 8.3 million 4 seasons later in 27/28.

As the cap continues to increase, that deal will be a STEAL for the level of player Pritchard is off the bench. If we gut the team for minimums long term, sure. I just wouldn't expect much production out of that level of player.

If he asks out for a bigger opportunity at some point, you explore that. If not, let the contract ride.

If Springer took a big step forward, he will almost immediately be due a raise that we most likely wouldn't give him. If he is terrible we could give him less than Pritchard, but why not just have Pritchard at that point?
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I think you could make the case that Springer was acquired partially as a prospect, and partially because we could do a 1-1 trade with anyone that makes less than 4m a year this off-season.

I love Pritchard. He's got an awesome contract and has been a fantastic bench player for the Cs, but I think he is the one guy that may contract the "disease of more." I could see him wanting to start at PG for a team. I've gone through the list of guys that make less than his salary, and I don't think we could get a better player back unless it was a guy on a rookie contract with upside. I hope we keep him.

I wondered about Sochan from the Spurs? It doesn't seem likely, but he's been there two years without much development. He would be a really good energy 4 next to Tatum/Brown and continues to double-down on our switchy defense. If the Spurs wanted a point guard for Wemby, would Pritchard be a solid stop-gap?

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@Roy, why is this so?
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Won't be able to aggregate two or more players in trade
It eliminates Phantom?s idea of Springer + Pritchard

We're over the second apron, and that's one of the new restrictions
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I?ve felt for a bit that Pritchard would be moved and Springer kept, with a vet free agent PG also joining.  I don?t have many great ideas on who we?d get for Pritchard, and honestly my #1 idea is draft consideration.  It?s not a great draft, but there are some interesting bigs who could go in the early 20s, so perhaps there is a trade partner there.  Yves Missi and Kel?el Ware are my two favorites, but there are some other choices too.  (The dream option is Topic falling far enough that we could move up for him, but that?s just a dream).

In terms of players, Mark Williams could make some sense as a big who?s under an affordable contract for a couple of years, but he doesn?t offer that much savings relative to Pritchard, and he seems like the worse player by a fair margin.  I think Pritchard to the Hornets wouldn?t be a crazy fit that direction, however.

Who are your ideas for the vet PG?

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If you're thinking long term, White being extended is first priority, then replacing Al and seeing what Porzingis is going to be like post surgery.

If all goes as expected you're better off developing talent and figuring out how to replace Al. If Porzingis isn't the same guy then it gets a lot more complicated. And Hauser may need to be replaced next summer as well. 

I think for the time being you draft and try to piece together the back of the rotation organically an/or with minimum contracts.

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@Roy, why is this so?
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Won't be able to aggregate two or more players in trade
It eliminates Phantom?s idea of Springer + Pritchard

New rules related to the second apron, unfortunately.

There's been some debate on whether these new rules kick in immediately, or if they begin July 1.  Brian Robb has reported that those new rules are currently in effect, and that was my understanding when I read from the actual CBA a few weeks ago, so I don't think we are allowed to do an aggregated trade anymore.  (i'm also not 100% clear on what happens if we start out above the second apron, but an aggregated trade brings us below it.  If it were to be allowed, I presume that we would immediately be hardcapped at the second apron.)


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I do not see a "major" move like that this off season. Pritchard has now proven himself as a playoff contributor and I think Springer has some long term value. When the team has to make a tough financial moves down the road having Springer developing on the bench may prove valuable. He and Walsh both represent all nba defender level upside.
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I?ve felt for a bit that Pritchard would be moved and Springer kept, with a vet free agent PG also joining.  I don?t have many great ideas on who we?d get for Pritchard, and honestly my #1 idea is draft consideration.  It?s not a great draft, but there are some interesting bigs who could go in the early 20s, so perhaps there is a trade partner there.  Yves Missi and Kel?el Ware are my two favorites, but there are some other choices too.  (The dream option is Topic falling far enough that we could move up for him, but that?s just a dream).

In terms of players, Mark Williams could make some sense as a big who?s under an affordable contract for a couple of years, but he doesn?t offer that much savings relative to Pritchard, and he seems like the worse player by a fair margin.  I think Pritchard to the Hornets wouldn?t be a crazy fit that direction, however.

Who are your ideas for the vet PG?
Depends on how washed you're thinking, but some potential names available this free agency that are somewhat reasonable (e.g. not James Harden) and have 'name recognition' include Kyle Lowry, Patty Mills, and Spencer Dinwiddie. Also Kris Dunn? I'm not seeing much in the way of guys who are legitimate upgrades on the court, though.
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What do folks think of Dante Exum? He gave the Mavs some good minutes in the Finals and might be a better defender than PP. He makes about $3M so C?s could get him for Pritchard though I think PP still has some upside.