So what were you wrong about this season?

[ozgod]

I was wrong about Lakers, Heat and Sixers fans handling this well.
They are in shambles.

Yes, more Faker and cHeat tears:

[86MaxwellSmart]

I thought Brad was crazy...after putting together this fabulous roster, why would he let this inept coach try to coach them?

Joe was the biggest surprise of the season.

[tenn_smoothie]

I was wrong about Jaylen Brown - sorta.

He definitely improved some of his decision making with the ball. I'm curious about his season by season comparison of turnovers. It appeared to me that he did less of dribbling the ball into multiple defenders and subsequently giving the ball away. He still makes some really dumb plays, but I think he made less of them. When the offense became stagnant, he became relentless driving the ball to the basket when he saw an opening. The way he took pride this year and became our #1 on-ball defender was also impressive. I am happy for the guy.

I guess we won despite Coach Joe, not because of him, huh?

You guessed right.

[Redz]

I'm a ridiculously glass half full guy with the Celtics, so I got most of what I expected with them.  I guess I thought Holliday would have more of a statistical impact in the regular season.  I was also very pleasantly surprised with the versatilty of Porzingis's game.  I figured he'd fit in well, but I always thought of him as much softer and mostly a 3-point guy. 

I guess I was also wrong about Kornet.  I wasn't as down about him as many, but I definitely didn't foresee his ability to grow in his role.

[footey]

I was wrong about Jaylen Brown - sorta.

He definitely improved some of his decision making with the ball. I'm curious about his season by season comparison of turnovers. It appeared to me that he did less of dribbling the ball into multiple defenders and subsequently giving the ball away. He still makes some really dumb plays, but I think he made less of them. When the offense became stagnant, he became relentless driving the ball to the basket when he saw an opening. The way he took pride this year and became our #1 on-ball defender was also impressive. I am happy for the guy.

I guess we won despite Coach Joe, not because of him, huh?

You guessed right.

"Nobody Cares."

[green_bballers13]

I was wrong about Jaylen Brown - sorta.

He definitely improved some of his decision making with the ball. I'm curious about his season by season comparison of turnovers. It appeared to me that he did less of dribbling the ball into multiple defenders and subsequently giving the ball away. He still makes some really dumb plays, but I think he made less of them. When the offense became stagnant, he became relentless driving the ball to the basket when he saw an opening. The way he took pride this year and became our #1 on-ball defender was also impressive. I am happy for the guy.

I guess we won despite Coach Joe, not because of him, huh?

You guessed right.

Boo. You might need a volleyball on Stubborn Island.

[green_bballers13]

I thought Brad was crazy...after putting together this fabulous roster, why would he let this inept coach try to coach them?

Joe was the biggest surprise of the season.

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But what about timeouts and 3 pointers!!!

In retrospect, the anti- Joe crowd could not have been more wrong.

I was wrong to engage with so many posters that were denying the evidence of a great team presented almost every game. I should have sat quietly and read the Celtics get bashed without feeling the need to defend them. I don't play for the team, and we're all allowed an opinion.

[Roy H.]

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But

Can't you make the same argument about literally about literally any move by any coach or GM in the NBA?

Extending this argument, fans should never criticize a draft choice, trade, free agent signing, coaching decision.  Even bad shots and sloppy play are beyond reproach, because the players are better at basketball.  No?

I've always hated this "defer to authority" argument, in any context.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

For me personally, there wasn't much that went differently than I thought. That doesn't mean I didn't have my doubts/anxieties about this team, but my rational side kinda' thought that this was how the season should play out.

But there were a few minor ones. First, I thought Horford would deal with more injuries and endurance issues. Second, I thought Tatum would figure out the end-game stuff a bit more and become a bit more of an assassin/closer. Third, I thought Lamar Stevens was going to be a rotation piece for us going into the playoffs (I thought both he and Brissett would). Fourth, I thought both Jordan Walsh and JD Davison would give us some helpful minutes in the regular season. Fifth, I didn't expect the camaraderie and morale to be quite as strong as it ended up being.

[86MaxwellSmart]

I thought Brad was crazy...after putting together this fabulous roster, why would he let this inept coach try to coach them?

Joe was the biggest surprise of the season.

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But what about timeouts and 3 pointers!!!

In retrospect, the anti- Joe crowd could not have been more wrong.

I was wrong to engage with so many posters that were denying the evidence of a great team presented almost every game. I should have sat quietly and read the Celtics get bashed without feeling the need to defend them. I don't play for the team, and we're all allowed an opinion.

No, Joe sucked last year as coach....I think his new staff of coaches set him straight this year.

[Kernewek]

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But

Can't you make the same argument about literally about literally any move by any coach or GM in the NBA?

Extending this argument, fans should never criticize a draft choice, trade, free agent signing, coaching decision.  Even bad shots and sloppy play are beyond reproach, because the players are better at basketball.  No?

I've always hated this "defer to authority" argument, in any context.

That's fair if the argument is only rooted in a deference to authority. I don't think that it is.

Generally speaking, if the viewership at home can come up with a 'simple solution' to what is going on on the floor that is being 'ignored' by the coaching staff, which scenario is more likely: that the coaching staff is collectively inept or that the 'simple solution' being proposed won't actually address the problems?


Now, it's can be a mixture of the two, but if we're considering likelihoods, they're hardly equal. Hence:

Timeouts and 3-pointers!!!

[Roy H.]

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But

Can't you make the same argument about literally about literally any move by any coach or GM in the NBA?

Extending this argument, fans should never criticize a draft choice, trade, free agent signing, coaching decision.  Even bad shots and sloppy play are beyond reproach, because the players are better at basketball.  No?

I've always hated this "defer to authority" argument, in any context.

That's fair if the argument is only rooted in a deference to authority. I don't think that it is.

Generally speaking, if the viewership at home can come up with a 'simple solution' to what is going on on the floor that is being 'ignored' by the coaching staff, which scenario is more likely: that the coaching staff is collectively inept or that the 'simple solution' being proposed won't actually address the problems?


Now, it's can be a mixture of the two, but if we're considering likelihoods, they're hardly equal. Hence:

Timeouts and 3-pointers!!!

I'm only objecting to the argument that because Stevens and Zarren do something, fans should shut up and be complacent.  Experts get things wrong all of the time.

I also think there's a big difference between Joe's coaching last year versus this year.  Some of those changes can be witnessed in real time.  Others occur behind the scenes.  For instance, Joe got a lot more buy-in this season, he had the team more prepared, and there was more consistent defensive focus. 

[green_bballers13]

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But

Can't you make the same argument about literally about literally any move by any coach or GM in the NBA?

Extending this argument, fans should never criticize a draft choice, trade, free agent signing, coaching decision.  Even bad shots and sloppy play are beyond reproach, because the players are better at basketball.  No?

I've always hated this "defer to authority" argument, in any context.

Brad and Mike aren?t just any executives. They are smart. If they weren?t good at their jobs, you would have a point. Those two deserved more faith.

[Roy H.]

It's weird that people watching at home think that they know more about basketball than Brad and Mike Zarren. But

Can't you make the same argument about literally about literally any move by any coach or GM in the NBA?

Extending this argument, fans should never criticize a draft choice, trade, free agent signing, coaching decision.  Even bad shots and sloppy play are beyond reproach, because the players are better at basketball.  No?

I've always hated this "defer to authority" argument, in any context.

Brad and Mike aren?t just any executives. They are smart. If they weren?t good at their jobs, you would have a point. Those two deserved more faith.

Smart people make bad decisions from time to time.  For instance, the assistant coaching staff last year was a mess, with us down two coaches by the end of the year.  That mistake was corrected this year, but that doesn't mean it was the right call.

Several free agents haven't worked out, Brad hasn't had a draft pick hit yet, etc.  His body of work is great, but not every decision is.

[Kernewek]

I'm only objecting to the argument that because Stevens and Zarren do something, fans should shut up and be complacent.  Experts get things wrong all of the time.

I also think there's a big difference between Joe's coaching last year versus this year.  Some of those changes can be witnessed in real time.  Others occur behind the scenes.  For instance, Joe got a lot more buy-in this season, he had the team more prepared, and there was more consistent defensive focus.

Sure. I think there's a degree of difference between complacency and taking the time to connect one more dot - outside of the game threads, at least.