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So what were you wrong about this season?
« on: June 18, 2024, 01:31:07 AM »

Offline ozgod

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Time for some humble pie  :laugh:

I was wrong about Jaylen's defensive impact throughout the year, culminating in him making life miserable for Luka. Luka still got his points but they were difficult points and exhausted him. I remember Jaylen being yelled at 5 years ago by Smartacus for drifting during games, not paying attention to his man on the corner and getting beat by cutters because he was ballwatching. I didn't think he would be able to be the focused, lockdown defender that he has become.

I was wrong about Wyc...I didn't think he was prepared to be a second apron team and pay repeater luxury tax. We'll see how long he's willing to pay it though  :angel:

What were you wrong about?
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Re: So what were you wrong about this season?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2024, 01:33:42 AM »

Offline Celtic Fan Forever

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I said we should?ve traded Jaylen, I was angry when he got the max extension. He improved upon every facet of his game and proved me wrong. He tightened up his handle, became a more willing passer, went away from his tunnel vision issues, locked in on defense to a whole new level, and won finals MVP. Happy to be wrong!
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2024, 01:35:12 AM »

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Time for some humble pie  :laugh:

I was wrong about Jaylen's defensive impact throughout the year, culminating in him making life miserable for Luka. Luka still got his points but they were difficult points and exhausted him. I remember Jaylen being yelled at 5 years ago by Smartacus for drifting during games, not paying attention to his man on the corner and getting beat by cutters because he was ballwatching. I didn't think he would be able to be the focused, lockdown defender that he has become.

I was wrong about Wyc...I didn't think he was prepared to be a second apron team and pay repeater luxury tax. We'll see how long he's willing to pay it though  :angel:

What were you wrong about?

I underestimated the impact Jrue would have replacing Smart. He really did exactly what we needed, stepping up or stepping back and doing the little things to win games. And he was quite level-headed in the clutch, which is something that really worried me.

I still miss Rob tho. And I do appreciate what Smart brought, even if it didn't work out.

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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2024, 02:15:06 AM »

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Okay, I was wrong that maybe Joe isn't the WORST coach in the NBA.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2024, 02:26:58 AM »

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Jaylen Brown.

Brown he frustrated me for years now with the constant political agenda pushing, the forced shot attempts, the excessive unforced turnovers, the lack of ball movement, etc. 

Yes, I know Tatum is due many of those same criticisms, but that's different to me because we all knew from draft day that this is who Tatum was going to be - we all knew he was the ISO heavy volume scorer, and that's what we drafted.  Brown frustrated me because was SUPPOSED to be different.  Brown was supposed to be the hyper athletic hard-nosed defensive guy who gets efficient points by relentlessly attacking the paint, and somewhere along the line it felt he lost his way.  He stopped being so aggressive driving to the basket, his defensive effort and consistency seemed to drop off significantly, he was dribbling the air out of the ball more, throwing up contested fadeaway jumpers, chucking early shot-clock threes and just generally floating towards making himself a Jayson Tatum clone.  And I have never felt that two Tatum's can work on one team.

But then this year he shut me up and has answered every one of my criticisms.  He's been the ultimate professional all season long, remained focussed on basketball, has gone back to playing more efficiently on offence and playing with more effort on defence, has been moving the ball much more willingly - he has well and truly converted me back to being a Jaylen Brown fan again.

I do feel for Jaylen because no matter how much he improved over the years, it always felt like Tatum improved to a level just that little big higher.  And no matter how good he was at any given time, it's always Tatum who has gotten the accolades, won over the media attention and who has ultimately been looked at as the face of the Celtics.  And for Brown, when you are right up there with Tatum as a player, that has to be frustrating - especially when you are a young player trying to build your own rep.  It must have taken a serious amount of maturity so a guy who has been passed over into second place for so long to show a willingness to sacrifice his personal numbers EVEN MORE, all for the good of the team.

But hard as it must have been, he did it anyway.  He went forth and sacrificed more than he ever has before, and in return for those sacrifice he now got a championship ring a finals MVP trophy - and whatever shadow he felt he was living under is now well and truly gone. 

I really hope that sends a strong message to the league and to all young players out there - that sometimes the best way to earn your recognition is not with selfish box score stats, but with the type of sacrifices that bring wins. 

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Holiday did, in fact, raise his game to another level in the second half of the this post-season.

Couldn?t have come at a better time.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2024, 04:34:05 AM »

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Joe couldn't coach

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Joe couldn't coach

Same.

He definitely, made huge strides over the season.  He was soooooooo green last year.

I wasn?t sure he had it in him.   And he is still a work in progress really ?.he had Brad to give him guidance and patience ( see Lakers fire Vogel after he won them a Championship)

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I didn?t love the trade that brought in Jrue. We gave up our two best picks along with two valuable players. I was wrong about how injury prone those two players were, though, and we would have been screwed if we had injured Rob, injured Brogdon, and injured Porzingis for the playoff run.

I do still think we win it all with Jrue and Smart - mostly because KP was hurt for most of the playoffs - so I really hope people stop comparing the two (they weren?t even traded for each other and Brad was trading Jrue when he became available no matter what).

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Wrong about Wyc and wrong about Joe. A terrific job in coaching and hedging your bets. He had a gameplan and it worked!

Also, kudos to Wyc for making the big move and spending on this team.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2024, 07:18:02 AM »

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Wyc and Joe both surprised me equally.  I didn't think Wyc would authorize the spending (particularly in future years), and I didn't think the players would embrace Joe as a "genius" and "psycho".

I hope they both continue to prove me wrong for the rest of this era.


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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2024, 07:31:37 AM »

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Time for some humble pie  :laugh:

I was wrong about Jaylen's defensive impact throughout the year, culminating in him making life miserable for Luka. Luka still got his points but they were difficult points and exhausted him. I remember Jaylen being yelled at 5 years ago by Smartacus for drifting during games, not paying attention to his man on the corner and getting beat by cutters because he was ballwatching. I didn't think he would be able to be the focused, lockdown defender that he has become.

I was wrong about Wyc...I didn't think he was prepared to be a second apron team and pay repeater luxury tax. We'll see how long he's willing to pay it though  :angel:

What were you wrong about?

I underestimated the impact Jrue would have replacing Smart. He really did exactly what we needed, stepping up or stepping back and doing the little things to win games. And he was quite level-headed in the clutch, which is something that really worried me.

I still miss Rob tho. And I do appreciate what Smart brought, even if it didn't work out.
You were concerned about Jrue being level-headed?  To me that was going to be one of his obvious improvement areas over Smart. 

I miss Rob too but he only played 6 games this season.  On the other hand, I was happy to see Smart gone even before the Jrue trade, which made me ecstatic. 

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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2024, 08:01:21 AM »

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Wyc and Joe both surprised me equally.  I didn't think Wyc would authorize the spending (particularly in future years), and I didn't think the players would embrace Joe as a "genius" and "psycho".

I hope they both continue to prove me wrong for the rest of this era.
When was Wyc unwilling to spend in the past?  What move didn't get done because he was unwilling to spend?  Was it really that he was unwilling to spend or was he just being judicious?  When was the last time the Celtics had a bad contract on the books?   An owner who just opens the checkbook and gets out of the way isn't a good owner. 

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2024, 08:09:49 AM »

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1. That Joe could not lead these guys to a title

2. I was wrong about Luke Kornet. Although he did not play a ton in the playoffs, he did prove to be a very good player in the regular season.

3. I was wrong that this team could not finish games. Could not get things done in crunch time. They answered the bell.