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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2024, 06:15:25 PM »

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I'm honestly not that impressed with any of the rookie QBs today. Yes it's only Week 1. But Daniels is basically just running around and that's Washington's ONLY offense (he has more rush yards than pass), Caleb was mediocre, and Bo Nix should honestly have 4 INTs by now.
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2024, 08:27:05 PM »

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I'm honestly not that impressed with any of the rookie QBs today. Yes it's only Week 1. But Daniels is basically just running around and that's Washington's ONLY offense (he has more rush yards than pass), Caleb was mediocre, and Bo Nix should honestly have 4 INTs by now.

Little different going up against NFL starters for an entire game.
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2024, 11:50:32 PM »

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Lions come from behind and win in OT 26-20. Barely covered the -5 too.

More controversy to go regarding the OT as the Rams didn't get possession of the ball as they were put to sleep with the Lions' opening possession TD in overtime. Keep it the way it is. Should be the defense's job to stop the opposing offense.


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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #93 on: September 09, 2024, 12:21:11 AM »

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I'm going to repeat my assertion that Tua is a massive fraud. He can't read defenses. I'm still not that impressed with Trevor Lawrence either.

He's great when his guys can get wide open. Not so great otherwise.

Maybe it's my imagination, but it seems like QB play has declined in this league. There are lots of guys who can scramble and who have cannon arms. But they lack that next-tier football IQ.

Nope. Overall, it?s bad.
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2024, 08:42:55 AM »

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Lions come from behind and win in OT 26-20. Barely covered the -5 too.

More controversy to go regarding the OT as the Rams didn't get possession of the ball as they were put to sleep with the Lions' opening possession TD in overtime. Keep it the way it is. Should be the defense's job to stop the opposing offense.

That?s not controversy, that?s whining.  They got paved in overtime.  Don?t get paved.

The last remaining controversy will be when some team goes in like an 8-minute FG drive to start, and then the other team doesn?t have time to get down the field for their tying field goal before the 10 minutes run out.

Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #95 on: September 09, 2024, 10:54:29 AM »

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New kickoff sucks.

Put a weight limit on special teams players to limit severity of collisions.
Expand the roster size to allow teams to have more special teams players.
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2024, 12:52:49 PM »

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I'm going to repeat my assertion that Tua is a massive fraud. He can't read defenses. I'm still not that impressed with Trevor Lawrence either.

He's great when his guys can get wide open. Not so great otherwise.

Maybe it's my imagination, but it seems like QB play has declined in this league. There are lots of guys who can scramble and who have cannon arms. But they lack that next-tier football IQ.

Nope. Overall, it?s bad.

In all honesty, you have Mahomes/Allen/Burrow/Lamar in whatever order. After that is there really any other guy you feel is "elite". Like over recent years we've all flipped flopped on guys like Jalen Hurts, Tua, etc. as well. I guess Rodgers but who knows if he can stay healthy. There's a lot of youth but like you said, many are still getting used to the league + some are just mobile/running QBs like Jayden Daniels.

QB play in general is down. I feel there's only really 3-4 reliable guys, maybe 4-5 more great 2nd tier guys but the remaining 20 are meh/unproven.
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2024, 10:16:37 PM »

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Well, Aaron Rodgers lasted longer in his first game this year compared to last year.

Still getting blown out by his kryptonite, the 49ers.


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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2024, 10:22:11 PM »

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Saleh isn't gonna last for long if NYJ looks like this. Isn't defense supposed to be their strength? I know the Niners are loaded but this is pretty pathetic, six straight scoring drives.

And lets be real, if NYJ needs a scapegoat it'll be him, not Rodgers
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2024, 10:23:44 PM »

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Saleh isn't gonna last for long if NYJ looks like this. Isn't defense supposed to be their strength? I know the Niners are loaded but this is pretty pathetic, six straight scoring drives.

And lets be real, if NYJ needs a scapegoat it'll be him, not Rodgers

Oh hello. Rodgers with the signature move to force offside, and then a beautiful throw for the TD.
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2024, 12:55:16 AM »

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Anyone feeling any remorse/bad for Tyreek Hill and his altercation with police officers yesterday?

Officers did force him down on the ground face-down with one knee down on his back. On the other hand, Hill wasn't cooperating immediately and was lagging it. He also didn't wanna roll down his windows.

Based on his history though, he was the infamous woman and child-beater.


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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2024, 05:58:37 AM »

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Anyone feeling any remorse/bad for Tyreek Hill and his altercation with police officers yesterday?

Officers did force him down on the ground face-down with one knee down on his back. On the other hand, Hill wasn't cooperating immediately and was lagging it. He also didn't wanna roll down his windows.

Based on his history though, he was the infamous woman and child-beater.

They probably didn't have to drag him out, but he kind of asked for it. He was being a smartass. "Don't knock on my window like that...do what you gotta do, I'm late" like he's some kind of VIP. Then rolls his window up when the cop is talking to him. Then he wonders why things escalated? All he had to do was do what the majority of people do - follow instructions - and they probably would have waived the ticket and given him a warning when they realized who he was.

Incidentally, I feel this is why we have traffic stops that end badly - because they get escalated when people get mouthy or don't follow instructions. I get it, I'm sure you have the cops that pick on racial minorities and go on power trips and bully them, but from most of the reporting of these traffic stops that escalate it's because people don't follow instructions to begin with. You put a police officer in a difficult position when you do that and even if they do the wrong thing and overreact it's not going to end well for you - you may even end up getting shot by some overzealous officer. Yes he might be arrested and charged, but you'll be dead.

Just be polite, comply, do what they tell you, and if you feel you got disrespected or the cop infringed on your rights you can go to the station, complain, and sue them after. If he had complied with them and they acted like that, then Tyreek would have grounds to sue IMO, particularly the second cop...but unfortunately his actions escalated the situation to begin with.

If anyone wants to see the video and make their own judgment, here it is.


https://x.com/AndySlater/status/1833273674033463799
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Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2024, 06:57:04 AM »

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Anyone feeling any remorse/bad for Tyreek Hill and his altercation with police officers yesterday?

Officers did force him down on the ground face-down with one knee down on his back. On the other hand, Hill wasn't cooperating immediately and was lagging it. He also didn't wanna roll down his windows.

Based on his history though, he was the infamous woman and child-beater.

They probably didn't have to drag him out, but he kind of asked for it. He was being a smartass. "Don't knock on my window like that...do what you gotta do, I'm late" like he's some kind of VIP. Then rolls his window up when the cop is talking to him. Then he wonders why things escalated? All he had to do was do what the majority of people do - follow instructions - and they probably would have waived the ticket and given him a warning when they realized who he was.

Incidentally, I feel this is why we have traffic stops that end badly - because they get escalated when people get mouthy or don't follow instructions. I get it, I'm sure you have the cops that pick on racial minorities and go on power trips and bully them, but from most of the reporting of these traffic stops that escalate it's because people don't follow instructions to begin with. You put a police officer in a difficult position when you do that and even if they do the wrong thing and overreact it's not going to end well for you - you may even end up getting shot by some overzealous officer. Yes he might be arrested and charged, but you'll be dead.

Just be polite, comply, do what they tell you, and if you feel you got disrespected or the cop infringed on your rights you can go to the station, complain, and sue them after. If he had complied with them and they acted like that, then Tyreek would have grounds to sue IMO, particularly the second cop...but unfortunately his actions escalated the situation to begin with.

If anyone wants to see the video and make their own judgment, here it is.


https://x.com/AndySlater/status/1833273674033463799

Those cops should all be fired.

Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2024, 06:58:19 AM »

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The incident didn?t need to escalate. Tyreke was petulant and the officers reacted to his petulance.  Tyreke should have cooperated.  But in stressful moments, people often regress to their base impulses.  When one side has a ?no one is the boss of me?  attitude and the other side has a ?I?ll show him who is boss? attitude, the resulting escalation is inevitable. This plays out on elementary school playgrounds every day.  Tyreke was wrong.  Officers should be better trained to avoid escalation. Non-cooperation is something police officers should know how to deal with, using tools other than aggression until aggression is necessary.  But as the kids say ?he started it? falls on Tyreke who got his back up when the officer knocked on his window. Good example of an incident that escalated but didn?t have to.  Something maybe both sides could learn from.  Instead, they probably all just try to justify their own actions.

Re: NFL 2024-25 Season
« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2024, 07:01:45 AM »

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Anyone feeling any remorse/bad for Tyreek Hill and his altercation with police officers yesterday?

Officers did force him down on the ground face-down with one knee down on his back. On the other hand, Hill wasn't cooperating immediately and was lagging it. He also didn't wanna roll down his windows.

Based on his history though, he was the infamous woman and child-beater.

They probably didn't have to drag him out, but he kind of asked for it. He was being a smartass. "Don't knock on my window like that...do what you gotta do, I'm late" like he's some kind of VIP. Then rolls his window up when the cop is talking to him. Then he wonders why things escalated? All he had to do was do what the majority of people do - follow instructions - and they probably would have waived the ticket and given him a warning when they realized who he was.

Incidentally, I feel this is why we have traffic stops that end badly - because they get escalated when people get mouthy or don't follow instructions. I get it, I'm sure you have the cops that pick on racial minorities and go on power trips and bully them, but from most of the reporting of these traffic stops that escalate it's because people don't follow instructions to begin with. You put a police officer in a difficult position when you do that and even if they do the wrong thing and overreact it's not going to end well for you - you may even end up getting shot by some overzealous officer. Yes he might be arrested and charged, but you'll be dead.

Just be polite, comply, do what they tell you, and if you feel you got disrespected or the cop infringed on your rights you can go to the station, complain, and sue them after. If he had complied with them and they acted like that, then Tyreek would have grounds to sue IMO, particularly the second cop...but unfortunately his actions escalated the situation to begin with.

If anyone wants to see the video and make their own judgment, here it is.


https://x.com/AndySlater/status/1833273674033463799

Agreed, with the caveat that dealing with pricks is part of the job.  Police who routinely engage in power struggles shouldn't be cops.  In this case, it's the shouting and the F-bombs that make the cop look out of control.

My own personal bias:  I think the police profession tends to draw two classes of people:  1.  those who want to protect and serve, and 2.  those who want to be "in charge".  Too many LEOs fall into the second category, and view those they interact with as beneath them.


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