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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #150 on: April 05, 2024, 09:47:46 PM »

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Wow.  Would have been ok in general with a Sac win given the Lakers climbing, but not this way.  Glad the bench doesn’t have to deal with losing this one.  Nice job Mr. X!

Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #151 on: April 05, 2024, 09:48:16 PM »

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Well, Joe's doing his best to blow this one.

By exposing his bench guys to pressure?

God forbid they lose a meaningless game…

To me, it’s not a meaningless game… It’s a game where it doesn’t matter as much whether you win it or not as how the players respond to being put under some pressure. Like it or not, these bench guys are going to have to face pressure.

I’m an odd fan as I don’t feel we have to win every single game, what I want are the players prepared to face pressure when the games really count, during the playoffs.

And they struggled a little but our bench group pulled it out against sacs no 1 unit in a game sac really needed to win

TPs for all!!

100% with you here. TPs all!

Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #152 on: April 05, 2024, 09:48:50 PM »

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Ha.  I don't like how we got there, but the last two plays were fun.


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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #153 on: April 05, 2024, 09:49:09 PM »

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The Cs didn't need this win and the starters didn't need minutes.  Joe did a good job of managing minutes and getting his bench some tough time.
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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #154 on: April 05, 2024, 09:49:27 PM »

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Fans don't pay $ for tickets and NBA TV for Joe Mazulla to try to purposely lose games like this. Tatum and Holiday played 30+ minutes so he could just throw the game away like it was nothing more than a joke in the last 5 minutes?

The Celtics scored 3 points in the final 6:06.

Yeah, pretty eye-opening stuff.

Not calling a timeout and setting up an end-game play for a better look for AN ENTIRE BENCH UNIT THAT WILL NEVER SEE THE FLOOR TOGETHER IN THE PLAYOFFS is just a dereliction of his duty as coach. Simply didn't put his players into position to succeed yet again, and what's worse is that the bench lucked out and somehow found a way to get a basket there, which will only encourage this non-sense moving forward.
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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #155 on: April 05, 2024, 09:50:18 PM »

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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #156 on: April 05, 2024, 09:50:41 PM »

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Completely good with resting the starters.  KP should either sit or play 20-25. Shouldn’t take any chances. Nice job Joe.  Same with Al. 20 minutes should be it. A fresh Al will be huge. 

Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #157 on: April 05, 2024, 09:51:15 PM »

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Al with 20 min and KP with 24 min.  Let's all relax with the win.
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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #158 on: April 05, 2024, 09:51:51 PM »

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Well, Joe's doing his best to blow this one.

By exposing his bench guys to pressure?

God forbid they lose a meaningless game…

To me, it’s not a meaningless game… It’s a game where it doesn’t matter as much whether you win it or not as how the players respond to being put under some pressure. Like it or not, these bench guys are going to have to face pressure.

I’m an odd fan as I don’t feel we have to win every single game, what I want are the players prepared to face pressure when the games really count, during the playoffs.

And they struggled a little but our bench group pulled it out against sacs no 1 unit in a game sac really needed to win

TPs for all!!

Meaningless for seeding. I agree, it’s a good opportunity for the bench guys to get extended/crunch time minutes. Hope we get to see more of Walsh, Queta, and Davison in these remaining games. See how they’ve progressed.
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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #159 on: April 05, 2024, 09:53:05 PM »

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If he wanted to coach and get practice in , why not call timeouts and do the drills with these guys too? 

Was Joe in a freakin hurry to go home , was he about to wee wee in his pants ?


That whole ending made no sense . He threw up this hands and washed his hands of what was happening on court….he is a freakin idiot

Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #160 on: April 05, 2024, 09:53:07 PM »

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I thought the fourth quarter was kinda fun, in a way.  Also definitely let me know that I need to dial back the gameday intensity to about a 3 for the next few weeks.  This will be about staying ready, staying healthy, and also throwing a bone to some bench guys who have been great teammates all year. 

Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #161 on: April 05, 2024, 09:53:53 PM »

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Fans don't pay $ for tickets and NBA TV for Joe Mazulla to try to purposely lose games like this. Tatum and Holiday played 30+ minutes so he could just throw the game away like it was nothing more than a joke in the last 5 minutes?

The Celtics scored 3 points in the final 6:06.

Yeah, pretty eye-opening stuff.

Not calling a timeout and setting up an end-game play for a better look for AN ENTIRE BENCH UNIT THAT WILL NEVER SEE THE FLOOR TOGETHER IN THE PLAYOFFS is just a dereliction of his duty as coach. Simply didn't put his players into position to succeed yet again, and what's worse is that the bench lucked out and somehow found a way to get a basket there, which will only encourage this non-sense moving forward.

agreed harry. this is an egregious error. he loves to just watch us bleed out and hope we can stop the bleeding on our own.
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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #162 on: April 05, 2024, 09:56:30 PM »

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I can just imagine the wrath Joe would get if JT or KP got injured while trying to win the game. Win or lose Joe is just a polarizing figure for the Celtics fan base. I wouldn’t be surprised of people still want him gone even if he wins a championship.

Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #163 on: April 05, 2024, 09:56:43 PM »

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Fans don't pay $ for tickets and NBA TV for Joe Mazulla to try to purposely lose games like this. Tatum and Holiday played 30+ minutes so he could just throw the game away like it was nothing more than a joke in the last 5 minutes?

The Celtics scored 3 points in the final 6:06.

Clearly I have a different opinion to other people here, I'm not expecting any Tommy Points for my opinon, maybe I'm the weird fan  :-\ I actually didn't mind that. I posted just before the Sac run that I was hoping that our next games we would get a close one, where we didn't shoot well, kind of like the 2nd Atlanta game where things went against us and we were put under real pressure. Not just the bench like tonight, but the starters. We've had too many games where we've blown teams away and it's been comfortable for everyone. 17 of our games have been won by 20+ points, another 15 by 10 to 20. We've cruised for the most part but for games decided by 1 possession our record is 5-7. (now 6-7). In my opinion this is our single biggest deficiency, our team is not tested under pressure. We win because we overwhelm other teams with a barrage of points and stop them from scoring.

Not that I don't want them to win, but I could see what Joe was trying to do. I'm as critical of him as the next person when it's deserved but I think he was trying to see if this bench group could hold the win and think for themselves. How would PP and Sam react as the No1 and 2 options? When Sacramento made that 16-1 run how would they respond under the pressure of a) winning the game and b) not looking bad to the starters that built the lead? Against a team that was desperate for a win, that needed a win? Could they do it by themselves, like kids thrown into the deep end of the pool and having to sink or swim? Would i rather find out now, in a game like this, or in a Game 7 against Atlanta or Miami, where more likely than not the coach will be doing everything humanly possible to win and take it out of the players' hands?

IMHO PP and Sam didn't respond too well, they showed a bit of panic as the primary options, they took bad shot options and ended up going iso to try to get buckets. But X showed some composure in grabbing that rebound and sinking the game winning floater. Keep in mind they were playing Sacramento's first team. These bench players will face pressure in the playoffs, they won't always come in when the team is leading by 20. I was totally prepared to lose the game for the chance to see how they would respond.

That said I also understand the angst and anger from fans...nobody wants to lose a game that was won when all Joe had to do was put the starters back in to win it. Blowout wins are always more fun for fans. But I think if he had done that we would have learned less about which players can be relied on under the cauldron of pressure. I'm always curious about human nature and how people respond to pressure situations, but I get how other people would feel differently when we were cruising in a game and looked like our bench were going to give it away with our coach sitting on his hands letting them play :)

Also, I'm sure the fans had their hearts in their mouths, but I'm sure most of them will leave TD Garden with a good feeling with a last second win  :laugh:
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Re: Kings (44-32) at Celtics (60-16) Game #77 4/5/24
« Reply #164 on: April 05, 2024, 09:57:18 PM »

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Fans don't pay $ for tickets and NBA TV for Joe Mazulla to try to purposely lose games like this. Tatum and Holiday played 30+ minutes so he could just throw the game away like it was nothing more than a joke in the last 5 minutes?

The Celtics scored 3 points in the final 6:06.

Yeah, pretty eye-opening stuff.

Not calling a timeout and setting up an end-game play for a better look for AN ENTIRE BENCH UNIT THAT WILL NEVER SEE THE FLOOR TOGETHER IN THE PLAYOFFS is just a dereliction of his duty as coach. Simply didn't put his players into position to succeed yet again, and what's worse is that the bench lucked out and somehow found a way to get a basket there, which will only encourage this non-sense moving forward.

agreed harry. this is an egregious error. he loves to just watch us bleed out and hope we can stop the bleeding on our own.

Agree , at least he could have the decency to coach the guys a little .  He was too nonchalant about that whole last five minutes. Settle the guys , do some coaching …stopping looking like a bloody fool .