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The Refs are really bad this year.
« on: November 23, 2023, 10:47:48 AM »

Offline liam

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The refs have been terrible this year. On First Take this morning they had a story about how Scott Foster has an open beef with Chris Paul. With all the focus on gambling ads etc, the refs have never needed to look competent more than they do now. The NBA needs to do something. It's a black eye for the NBA. If I have to watch Tatum, A superstar in the league, get hit in the head without a call I'll puke!

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2023, 11:14:34 AM »

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Scott Foster still being in this league and basically acting as the "mob boss" tells you everything. Even after the whole documentary and scandal, nothing really changed. Then you have a ton of other incompetent refs like Brothers, Zarba, etc.

It's not just an NBA problem, it's been BAD all over sports. I've said it before, but there's two reasons this is the case. (1) Gambling. It's happening all around now and more states like MA recently allow it too, plus all the Vegas influence and them getting new sports teams too. (2) Refs are never held accountable. Like at all. If a player or coach speaks out about it, it's a fine. Refs? Nothing at all. Even if they make terrible calls, ejections or even trash talk. No discipline whatsoever. The closest thing I can recall is when they claimed to have "sleepless nights" over that Lebron missed call, because he's Lebron. But that's it, and no ref got officially disciplined either.

Btw, last night's game line was -5.5 for Bucks-Celtics. Makes you wonder why the refs certainly tried to make it close late  :P

I'm frankly surprised more athletes and FO members aren't trying to do something about it, but maybe it's because these refs/umpires have strong unions and such?
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2023, 11:19:41 AM »

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I caught the Foster/CP3 episode when I got home from the game. Foster should be suspended. Fans don't pay crazy money for tickets to watch that clown.

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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2023, 11:35:38 AM »

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Is there a rule that Jason Tatum's head is part of the ball?

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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2023, 11:42:34 AM »

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Is there any way the NBA could get those international refs that work the world games and Olympics? I notice that no NBA refs work those games. NBA refs are not the best.

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2023, 12:09:21 PM »

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I think 52 free throws in one game is a lot but the Suns took 52 as a team! WHAT???

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2023, 01:27:25 PM »

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I get missed calls.  It's the double standard that irritates me.  If Lebron was reffed the way KP is, he'd pick up two technicals per game.


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I get missed calls.  It's the double standard that irritates me.  If Lebron was reffed the way KP is, he'd pick up two technicals per game.
Imagine Draymond….

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Is there any way the NBA could get those international refs that work the world games and Olympics? I notice that no NBA refs work those games. NBA refs are not the best.

Different rules and lower broadcast quality lead to fewer complaints about the referees.
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The refs have been really bad for years and years. Not new as far as I’m concerned

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Is there any way the NBA could get those international refs that work the world games and Olympics? I notice that no NBA refs work those games. NBA refs are not the best.

Different rules and lower broadcast quality lead to fewer complaints about the referees.

???

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2023, 01:35:08 AM »

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Is there any way the NBA could get those international refs that work the world games and Olympics? I notice that no NBA refs work those games. NBA refs are not the best.

Different rules and lower broadcast quality lead to fewer complaints about the referees.

What's it like in the Euroleague or the Spanish league? I would have figured some of those guys get pretty emotional about calls  :laugh:
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Scott Foster still being in this league and basically acting as the "mob boss" tells you everything. Even after the whole documentary and scandal, nothing really changed. Then you have a ton of other incompetent refs like Brothers, Zarba, etc.

It's not just an NBA problem, it's been BAD all over sports. I've said it before, but there's two reasons this is the case. (1) Gambling. It's happening all around now and more states like MA recently allow it too, plus all the Vegas influence and them getting new sports teams too. (2) Refs are never held accountable. Like at all. If a player or coach speaks out about it, it's a fine. Refs? Nothing at all. Even if they make terrible calls, ejections or even trash talk. No discipline whatsoever. The closest thing I can recall is when they claimed to have "sleepless nights" over that Lebron missed call, because he's Lebron. But that's it, and no ref got officially disciplined either.

Btw, last night's game line was -5.5 for Bucks-Celtics. Makes you wonder why the refs certainly tried to make it close late  :P

I'm frankly surprised more athletes and FO members aren't trying to do something about it, but maybe it's because these refs/umpires have strong unions and such?


 So Phantom, are you saying a lot of games are basically rigged nowadays?

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2023, 08:31:34 AM »

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Is there any way the NBA could get those international refs that work the world games and Olympics? I notice that no NBA refs work those games. NBA refs are not the best.

Different rules and lower broadcast quality lead to fewer complaints about the referees.

What's it like in the Euroleague or the Spanish league? I would have figured some of those guys get pretty emotional about calls  :laugh:
Same as everywhere - the fans think the referees hate their team, of course. Schroedinger’s reffing.

My comment was more about US fandom watching team USA in the Olympics or FIBA games vs watching the Celtics.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2023, 09:16:13 AM »

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I stopped watching euro ball because of the reffs. Nba is fine, believe me.
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