Celtics (8-2) at 76ers (8-2) Game #11 11/15/23

[A Future of Stevens]

https://www.libertyballers.com/2023/11/15/23962875/sixers-celtics-second-half-thread

Everyone bask in the Sixers fans' agony to this loss! They deserve it after all the smack they talked after last game when they barely won after both the Jays had awful games.

Lol one of the comments was that our bench is deep. In general I like Philly's bench better than ours. Does every team just hate on their own bench?

[Vermont Green]

I hate to be that guy... but does this team play better when Brown isn't there?  I feel like the ball movement was so much better tonight then most nights.   Very little hero ball,  we won as a team.

Why not say we play better without Porzingis, he was out too?  That would be an equally unfounded conclusion to draw from one game.

The criticism of Brown is a lot like the criticism of Smart.  It stems understandably from the many ugly plays that either of them tend to commit.  With some players, their bad plays just look really ugly.  That is the case with Brown but he is a good player, a really good player.  I am happy to stick with Jaylen Brown.

[Vermont Green]

I find the bench discussion interesting.  Our bench is not that bad.  It starts with Horford, probably one of the best bench bigs in the league.  But you tend to kind of think of him as a 6th starter.  After Horford of course, the bench drops off some but we have several players at multiple positions that I would categorize as "serviceable" or better:

Hauser
Pritchard
Kornet
Mykhailiuk
Stevens
Brissett
Banton

You may have Hauser and Pritchard as better than serviceable, that is fine.  As it stand now, both would be expected to play regular minutes in the playoffs (along with Horford).  As the 7th and 8th guys, they have some flaws or weaknesses but aren't that bad for the role.  Then 9-13 or so, those guys are not expected to play in the playoffs much if any but as we are seeing, they are perfectly serviceable emergency role players off the bench.

I would say that Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet are pretty much known quantities.  They are what they are.  They know their roles.  They are probably not going to get much better, which is fine.  The rest of them I feel are still kind of figuring out their roles on the Celtics and to some extent in the NBA.  All of them could have some ceiling still.  Horford will likely get 6moY votes.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Doris Burke was embarrassing last night as usual when she calls a Sixers game v Boston. I had to mute it. Just god awful.

doris makes me puke. she is a joke. ESPN is a joke. always has been.

[SHAQATTACK]

Doris Burke was embarrassing last night as usual when she calls a Sixers game v Boston. I had to mute it. Just god awful.

doris makes me puke. she is a joke. ESPN is a joke. always has been.

Doris is not serviceable

[Donoghus]

Doris Burke was embarrassing last night as usual when she calls a Sixers game v Boston. I had to mute it. Just god awful.

doris makes me puke. she is a joke. ESPN is a joke. always has been.

Doris is not serviceable

She was insufferable last night.  She has really regressed as an announcer.  Also, she definitely has a pro-Philly slant to her. 

[Surferdad]

I find the bench discussion interesting.  Our bench is not that bad.  It starts with Horford, probably one of the best bench bigs in the league.  But you tend to kind of think of him as a 6th starter.  After Horford of course, the bench drops off some but we have several players at multiple positions that I would categorize as "serviceable" or better:

Hauser
Pritchard
Kornet
Mykhailiuk
Stevens
Brissett
Banton

You may have Hauser and Pritchard as better than serviceable, that is fine.  As it stand now, both would be expected to play regular minutes in the playoffs (along with Horford).  As the 7th and 8th guys, they have some flaws or weaknesses but aren't that bad for the role.  Then 9-13 or so, those guys are not expected to play in the playoffs much if any but as we are seeing, they are perfectly serviceable emergency role players off the bench.

I would say that Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet are pretty much known quantities.  They are what they are.  They know their roles.  They are probably not going to get much better, which is fine.  The rest of them I feel are still kind of figuring out their roles on the Celtics and to some extent in the NBA.  All of them could have some ceiling still.  Horford will likely get 6moY votes.

Regarding 7 through 9, Hauser and Pritchard are finding their groove. Kornet is bad and needs to be replaced. His best moments are when Pritchard is feeding him for a dunk. That's Pritchard driving the play; Kornet is just there to put it through the hoop. At al other times, Kornet is a net negative (IMO) with his inability to catch a pass, inability to rebound and terrible agility on defense. There has to be better options out there for a team favored to win it all this year.

[ChillyWilly]

Doris Burke was embarrassing last night as usual when she calls a Sixers game v Boston. I had to mute it. Just god awful.

doris makes me puke. she is a joke. ESPN is a joke. always has been.

I thought I was alone in this. My wife sets the TV up for me to watch the game...(I cant work remotes just like my dad couldnt work the VCR  ) She set it up to ESPN and before I could even get a word out she went "oh not we arent listening to that lady let me find another channel"

[footey]

I find the bench discussion interesting.  Our bench is not that bad.  It starts with Horford, probably one of the best bench bigs in the league.  But you tend to kind of think of him as a 6th starter.  After Horford of course, the bench drops off some but we have several players at multiple positions that I would categorize as "serviceable" or better:

Hauser
Pritchard
Kornet
Mykhailiuk
Stevens
Brissett
Banton

You may have Hauser and Pritchard as better than serviceable, that is fine.  As it stand now, both would be expected to play regular minutes in the playoffs (along with Horford).  As the 7th and 8th guys, they have some flaws or weaknesses but aren't that bad for the role.  Then 9-13 or so, those guys are not expected to play in the playoffs much if any but as we are seeing, they are perfectly serviceable emergency role players off the bench.

I would say that Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet are pretty much known quantities.  They are what they are.  They know their roles.  They are probably not going to get much better, which is fine.  The rest of them I feel are still kind of figuring out their roles on the Celtics and to some extent in the NBA.  All of them could have some ceiling still.  Horford will likely get 6moY votes.

Regarding 7 through 9, Hauser and Pritchard are finding their groove. Kornet is bad and needs to be replaced. His best moments are when Pritchard is feeding him for a dunk. That's Pritchard driving the play; Kornet is just there to put it through the hoop. At al other times, Kornet is a net negative (IMO) with his inability to catch a pass, inability to rebound and terrible agility on defense. There has to be better options out there for a team favored to win it all this year.

Odd time to trash Kornet. Last two games he has been quite decent, no?

[Donoghus]

I find the bench discussion interesting.  Our bench is not that bad.  It starts with Horford, probably one of the best bench bigs in the league.  But you tend to kind of think of him as a 6th starter.  After Horford of course, the bench drops off some but we have several players at multiple positions that I would categorize as "serviceable" or better:

Hauser
Pritchard
Kornet
Mykhailiuk
Stevens
Brissett
Banton

You may have Hauser and Pritchard as better than serviceable, that is fine.  As it stand now, both would be expected to play regular minutes in the playoffs (along with Horford).  As the 7th and 8th guys, they have some flaws or weaknesses but aren't that bad for the role.  Then 9-13 or so, those guys are not expected to play in the playoffs much if any but as we are seeing, they are perfectly serviceable emergency role players off the bench.

I would say that Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet are pretty much known quantities.  They are what they are.  They know their roles.  They are probably not going to get much better, which is fine.  The rest of them I feel are still kind of figuring out their roles on the Celtics and to some extent in the NBA.  All of them could have some ceiling still.  Horford will likely get 6moY votes.

Regarding 7 through 9, Hauser and Pritchard are finding their groove. Kornet is bad and needs to be replaced. His best moments are when Pritchard is feeding him for a dunk. That's Pritchard driving the play; Kornet is just there to put it through the hoop. At al other times, Kornet is a net negative (IMO) with his inability to catch a pass, inability to rebound and terrible agility on defense. There has to be better options out there for a team favored to win it all this year.

Odd time to trash Kornet. Last two games he has been quite decent, no?

He was fantastic last night.  His offensive boards were clutch.

[hardlyyardley]

I could not believe Pritchard was credited for only assists...i thought he may have been at least 7 or 8

[Phantom255x]

A lot of Sixers fans are saying they lost because Oubre and Batum didn't play, and look those are key players for them. However, a lot of the storylines were similar as previous years. Tatum pretty much dominating for stretches late to seal it. Horford owning Embiid on both ends, with Embiid also looking a little gassed. C's literally didn't have Porzingis and Brown who are arguably the 2 of the Top-5 guys between the two teams if you rank all their top players from both teams (Tatum, Embiid, next 3 are likely Celtics, maybe Maxey sneaks in around 5?).

To be fair I still think the Sixers are the 2nd best in the East and better than MIL/MIA, I just thought the extreme hype with them early on was a bit ridiculous. We also have to see if Maxey can keep this up all year.

[Vermont Green]

I find the bench discussion interesting.  Our bench is not that bad.  It starts with Horford, probably one of the best bench bigs in the league.  But you tend to kind of think of him as a 6th starter.  After Horford of course, the bench drops off some but we have several players at multiple positions that I would categorize as "serviceable" or better:

Hauser
Pritchard
Kornet
Mykhailiuk
Stevens
Brissett
Banton

You may have Hauser and Pritchard as better than serviceable, that is fine.  As it stand now, both would be expected to play regular minutes in the playoffs (along with Horford).  As the 7th and 8th guys, they have some flaws or weaknesses but aren't that bad for the role.  Then 9-13 or so, those guys are not expected to play in the playoffs much if any but as we are seeing, they are perfectly serviceable emergency role players off the bench.

I would say that Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet are pretty much known quantities.  They are what they are.  They know their roles.  They are probably not going to get much better, which is fine.  The rest of them I feel are still kind of figuring out their roles on the Celtics and to some extent in the NBA.  All of them could have some ceiling still.  Horford will likely get 6moY votes.

Regarding 7 through 9, Hauser and Pritchard are finding their groove. Kornet is bad and needs to be replaced. His best moments are when Pritchard is feeding him for a dunk. That's Pritchard driving the play; Kornet is just there to put it through the hoop. At al other times, Kornet is a net negative (IMO) with his inability to catch a pass, inability to rebound and terrible agility on defense. There has to be better options out there for a team favored to win it all this year.

Odd time to trash Kornet. Last two games he has been quite decent, no?

He was fantastic last night.  His offensive boards were clutch.

Forget the small sample size, last season, Kornet got 804 minutes in 69 games (about 12 min per) for an overall +61.  I think Kornet is underappreciated.  He should be the 4th big, not the 3rd big, but I don't see him as "trash"; last season, he was not a negative, in fact he was very useful in a bench role.

[SparzWizard]

A lot of Sixers fans are saying they lost because Oubre and Batum didn't play, and look those are key players for them. However, a lot of the storylines were similar as previous years. Tatum pretty much dominating for stretches late to seal it. Horford owning Embiid on both ends, with Embiid also looking a little gassed. C's literally didn't have Porzingis and Brown who are arguably the 2 of the Top-5 guys between the two teams if you rank all their top players from both teams (Tatum, Embiid, next 3 are likely Celtics, maybe Maxey sneaks in around 5?).

To be fair I still think the Sixers are the 2nd best in the East and better than MIL/MIA, I just thought the extreme hype with them early on was a bit ridiculous. We also have to see if Maxey can keep this up all year.

And we were without two of our five players from our main starting unit. And still crushed them by 10 points on their turf.

[Surferdad]

I find the bench discussion interesting.  Our bench is not that bad.  It starts with Horford, probably one of the best bench bigs in the league.  But you tend to kind of think of him as a 6th starter.  After Horford of course, the bench drops off some but we have several players at multiple positions that I would categorize as "serviceable" or better:

Hauser
Pritchard
Kornet
Mykhailiuk
Stevens
Brissett
Banton

You may have Hauser and Pritchard as better than serviceable, that is fine.  As it stand now, both would be expected to play regular minutes in the playoffs (along with Horford).  As the 7th and 8th guys, they have some flaws or weaknesses but aren't that bad for the role.  Then 9-13 or so, those guys are not expected to play in the playoffs much if any but as we are seeing, they are perfectly serviceable emergency role players off the bench.

I would say that Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet are pretty much known quantities.  They are what they are.  They know their roles.  They are probably not going to get much better, which is fine.  The rest of them I feel are still kind of figuring out their roles on the Celtics and to some extent in the NBA.  All of them could have some ceiling still.  Horford will likely get 6moY votes.

Regarding 7 through 9, Hauser and Pritchard are finding their groove. Kornet is bad and needs to be replaced. His best moments are when Pritchard is feeding him for a dunk. That's Pritchard driving the play; Kornet is just there to put it through the hoop. At al other times, Kornet is a net negative (IMO) with his inability to catch a pass, inability to rebound and terrible agility on defense. There has to be better options out there for a team favored to win it all this year.

Odd time to trash Kornet. Last two games he has been quite decent, no?

He was fantastic last night.  His offensive boards were clutch.

Forget the small sample size, last season, Kornet got 804 minutes in 69 games (about 12 min per) for an overall +61.  I think Kornet is underappreciated.  He should be the 4th big, not the 3rd big, but I don't see him as "trash"; last season, he was not a negative, in fact he was very useful in a bench role.

I'm looking at stuff that doesn't show up in the box score:  Inability to catch passes due to stone hands, poor rebounding, scarecrow defense, terrible footwork. I agree he's a 4th big so he should never play, except for emergencies. This team needs someone better for a 3rd big.