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[Roy H.]

Justin Turpin
@JustinmTurpin
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Bill Chisholm on whether there was any sort of financial mandate from ownership:

"No, absolutely not. This was all about basically trying to win, and, I think, really trusting in our process we have. I think we have the best front office in the NBA, and they put in their work, and they came to the conclusion this was the best way for us to win, and that's the mandate: Is to win. And I just have to keep saying that there is no ?we'll spend whatever it takes to do that. The mandate is to win.?

I thought that only politicians could lie like that.

[Larry for 3]

Justin Turpin
@JustinmTurpin
?
5m
Bill Chisholm on whether there was any sort of financial mandate from ownership:

"No, absolutely not. This was all about basically trying to win, and, I think, really trusting in our process we have. I think we have the best front office in the NBA, and they put in their work, and they came to the conclusion this was the best way for us to win, and that's the mandate: Is to win. And I just have to keep saying that there is no ?we'll spend whatever it takes to do that. The mandate is to win.?

I thought that only politicians could lie like that.

Actions speak louder than words

[Donoghus]

Something still doesn't add up here.

[JBcat]

Brad loves the word optionality.

[Who]

Justin Turpin
@JustinmTurpin
?
5m
Bill Chisholm on whether there was any sort of financial mandate from ownership:

"No, absolutely not. This was all about basically trying to win, and, I think, really trusting in our process we have. I think we have the best front office in the NBA, and they put in their work, and they came to the conclusion this was the best way for us to win, and that's the mandate: Is to win. And I just have to keep saying that there is no ?we'll spend whatever it takes to do that. The mandate is to win.?

I thought that only politicians could lie like that.

I believe him.

I believe this was a Brad Stevens trade. Not an ownership trade. I also believe it was a cap management trade rather than a basketball trade. But it was Stevens who decided this was the best route long term to put out strong basketball teams.

That Stevens did not want to pay Jaylen. That he did not want the 2 supermaxes on the books. That he did not think he could put enough quality talent around JB / JT to win another title with both on supermaxes.

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And to say again, Wyc has said the exact same thing would have happened if he had of remained owner as has happened with this new owner. The 2nd apron would have forced the tear down of the title winning team. The departures of Jrue & Porzingis.

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This Jaylen trade = I think this is purely the basketball front office that is driving this.

[Who]

If Tatum really wanted Jaylen back and they still went ahead and traded him for that, then I would fear for Tatum's time here too. A few more early playoff exits and cost-cutting measures and Tatum will probably ask out too.

I refuse to believe that though, if JT wanted Jaylen back badly he could have petitioned for it more behind the scenes or even put out stuff on social media supporting him like he has in the past. He didn't. I think he wanted Jaylen gone, although yes maybe he's surprised Jaylen didn't have that much trade value either

Agreed -- Tatum could have stopped the deal.

I don't know that I would go as far as Tatum wanted Jaylen traded. I think Tatum just did not want to get involved.

He should have gotten involved.

[celticinorlando]

PG waived the trade bonus. Gives Boston some more flexibility.

[Goldstar88]

If Tatum really wanted Jaylen back and they still went ahead and traded him for that, then I would fear for Tatum's time here too. A few more early playoff exits and cost-cutting measures and Tatum will probably ask out too.

I refuse to believe that though, if JT wanted Jaylen back badly he could have petitioned for it more behind the scenes or even put out stuff on social media supporting him like he has in the past. He didn't. I think he wanted Jaylen gone, although yes maybe he's surprised Jaylen didn't have that much trade value either

Agreed -- Tatum could have stopped the deal.

I don't know that I would go as far as Tatum wanted Jaylen traded. I think Tatum just did not want to get involved.

He should have gotten involved.

JT wasn?t going to stop the trade. First thing Brad said during his presser was how they had 70% of their payroll tied up in 2 players. Thinking JT was going to change anything regarding the move is silly.

[Who]

Bobby Krivitsky: Brad Stevens on the role analytics played in the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown: "You take in every angle and every ounce of information that you have and you put it all together. For me and Mike and his staff...I would say that was a small piece of information."

Interesting that analytics was only a small part here

That we have built it up into something much greater both in the mainstream media and in social media.

Bobby Krivitsky: Brad Stevens on why the Celtics made this Jaylen Brown trade at the time that they accepted the 76ers' proposal: "This was not a secret. People had plenty of information or at least had a reason to make offers...We tried our very best to...assess the value of what we thought a pick was worth, or at least best predict it.

"But it is an interesting time," he added noting, the CBA's impact on building a roster.

That last line is illuminating. I do think this deal is about managing the CBA and trying to put together the best basketball roster. That it was a basketball decision in that respect - and driven by the C's front office and not the ownership.

Austin Krell

To recap the points of Stevens' presser: - the decision was driven by perceived salary sheet constraints, and the draft capital justified the concept of essentially swapping out salaries - the Celtics still think PG is really good and like that he was comfortable in a complimentary role (read this however you like) - had a team out west offered the same package, they probably would've accepted that over the Sixers' offer - Brad Stevens admitted he could be wrong about this deal, but that it allowed flexibility + kept them competitive in the short term

(1) perceived salary cap constraints
(2) value of draft picks acquired

Possibly

(3) PG13 being more comfortable playing a supporting role and they were concerned about Jaylen's willingness to go back to being a #2 behind Tatum. Possibly.

Jay King: Brad Stevens: "The path looked a little bit more challenging with 70 percent of our cap and such a high percent of our usage tied into two players."

Interesting he said both (1) 70% of cap - understandable (2) 70% of usage.

I did not expect that 70% usage comment. So Brad doesn't want a star based system? He wants a more balanced team system?

[Roy H.]

Justin Turpin
@JustinmTurpin
?
5m
Bill Chisholm on whether there was any sort of financial mandate from ownership:

"No, absolutely not. This was all about basically trying to win, and, I think, really trusting in our process we have. I think we have the best front office in the NBA, and they put in their work, and they came to the conclusion this was the best way for us to win, and that's the mandate: Is to win. And I just have to keep saying that there is no ?we'll spend whatever it takes to do that. The mandate is to win.?

I thought that only politicians could lie like that.

I believe him.

I believe this was a Brad Stevens trade. Not an ownership trade. I also believe it was a cap management trade rather than a basketball trade. But it was Stevens who decided this was the best route long term to put out strong basketball teams.

That Stevens did not want to pay Jaylen. That he did not want the 2 supermaxes on the books. That he did not think he could put enough quality talent around JB / JT to win another title with both on supermaxes.

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And to say again, Wyc has said the exact same thing would have happened if he had of remained owner as has happened with this new owner. The 2nd apron would have forced the tear down of the title winning team. The departures of Jrue & Porzingis.

-----------

This Jaylen trade = I think this is purely the basketball front office that is driving this.

He also said that the Jrue and KP deals weren't financially motivated.

[Who]

Justin Turpin
@JustinmTurpin
?
5m
Bill Chisholm on whether there was any sort of financial mandate from ownership:

"No, absolutely not. This was all about basically trying to win, and, I think, really trusting in our process we have. I think we have the best front office in the NBA, and they put in their work, and they came to the conclusion this was the best way for us to win, and that's the mandate: Is to win. And I just have to keep saying that there is no ?we'll spend whatever it takes to do that. The mandate is to win.?

I thought that only politicians could lie like that.

I believe him.

I believe this was a Brad Stevens trade. Not an ownership trade. I also believe it was a cap management trade rather than a basketball trade. But it was Stevens who decided this was the best route long term to put out strong basketball teams.

That Stevens did not want to pay Jaylen. That he did not want the 2 supermaxes on the books. That he did not think he could put enough quality talent around JB / JT to win another title with both on supermaxes.

------------

And to say again, Wyc has said the exact same thing would have happened if he had of remained owner as has happened with this new owner. The 2nd apron would have forced the tear down of the title winning team. The departures of Jrue & Porzingis.

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This Jaylen trade = I think this is purely the basketball front office that is driving this.

He also said that the Jrue and KP deals weren't financially motivated.

Again, Wyc said he would have done the exact same thing if he had of remained team owner.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Justin Turpin
@JustinmTurpin
?
5m
Bill Chisholm on whether there was any sort of financial mandate from ownership:

"No, absolutely not. This was all about basically trying to win, and, I think, really trusting in our process we have. I think we have the best front office in the NBA, and they put in their work, and they came to the conclusion this was the best way for us to win, and that's the mandate: Is to win. And I just have to keep saying that there is no ?we'll spend whatever it takes to do that. The mandate is to win.?

I thought that only politicians could lie like that.

I believe him.

I believe this was a Brad Stevens trade. Not an ownership trade. I also believe it was a cap management trade rather than a basketball trade. But it was Stevens who decided this was the best route long term to put out strong basketball teams.

That Stevens did not want to pay Jaylen. That he did not want the 2 supermaxes on the books. That he did not think he could put enough quality talent around JB / JT to win another title with both on supermaxes.

------------

And to say again, Wyc has said the exact same thing would have happened if he had of remained owner as has happened with this new owner. The 2nd apron would have forced the tear down of the title winning team. The departures of Jrue & Porzingis.

-----------

This Jaylen trade = I think this is purely the basketball front office that is driving this.

He also said that the Jrue and KP deals weren't financially motivated.

He did? I don't remember that. I remember the opposite.