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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #195 on: October 25, 2023, 08:30:51 PM »

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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #196 on: October 25, 2023, 08:31:00 PM »

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Is there any doubt who the best player on the court is tonight?

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #197 on: October 25, 2023, 08:31:03 PM »

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In a year, what can we get for JB? Maybe a starting big next to Zinger and a legit bench piece.

I just don't have confidence that he's going to 1.) figure out how to fit in 2.) actually try to fit in.

And that's just not based on tonight. I'm basing that on 7 years of watching him play.

Very interesting comment - yep, you may unfortunately be right.
As much as he fancies himself some sort of intellectual, he is just plain dumb on the basketball court.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #198 on: October 25, 2023, 08:31:24 PM »

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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #199 on: October 25, 2023, 08:31:43 PM »

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Nice start for the 2nd half.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #200 on: October 25, 2023, 08:31:59 PM »

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What the hell, Tatum.  That's just silly.

The hesitations and footwork.  Pierce-like.  That offseason work with the Truth probably had a role in that.

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #201 on: October 25, 2023, 08:32:00 PM »

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I hope Jaylen doesn’t feel like he’s gotta get his because Tatum and KP are beasting it right now
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #202 on: October 25, 2023, 08:32:06 PM »

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Tatum going OFF!

He definitely looks bigger and stronger out there.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #203 on: October 25, 2023, 08:32:29 PM »

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What the hell, Tatum.  That's just silly.

The hesitations and footwork.  Pierce-like.  That offseason work with the Truth probably had a role in that.

And Robinson is a very good defender, too.  Tatum abused him. 

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #204 on: October 25, 2023, 08:32:52 PM »

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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #205 on: October 25, 2023, 08:33:23 PM »

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Tatum going OFF!

He definitely looks bigger and stronger out there.

He looks massive.

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #206 on: October 25, 2023, 08:34:11 PM »

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If this is JT in 23-24, yes, MVP.  Wow - what a versatile offensive performance tonight.

JB should be able to figure out how to contribute when JT is playing otherworldly. 

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #207 on: October 25, 2023, 08:34:13 PM »

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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #208 on: October 25, 2023, 08:34:28 PM »

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In a year, what can we get for JB? Maybe a starting big next to Zinger and a legit bench piece.

I just don't have confidence that he's going to 1.) figure out how to fit in 2.) actually try to fit in.

And that's just not based on tonight. I'm basing that on 7 years of watching him play.

Based on Wyc's recent comments about making major changes two days after the ECF, I think management won't hesitate to have a quick trigger with Jaylen if necessary. We made some major changes this past offseason, and it's worth seeing how everybody jells; but if we come up short and Jaylen isn't pulling his weight, then I don't think they'll mind trading that $300M contract for a couple of pieces that fit better.

That being said, we can't judge Jaylen on one bad half of basketball. I imagine he'll be an all-star level player this season (but maybe not actually an all-star with the way KP is playing).

I'm sure he won't play this bad all season, but I do envision this becoming the JT+KP show and JB getting pouty about getting less touches and a diminished role. 

Which I can understand in all fairness to JB, he's clearly good enough to be a #1 guy on a lot of NBA rosters, so if he's relegated to #3 status here, I'm sure he'll feel that the reduced role is holding back his ability to prove himself as a young rising star.

I do wonder if that contract will scare off some teams and make forming a trade harder though. 

If JB does want to be the #1 guy elsewhere, and he's smart, then he'll accept whatever role they give him, and help lead Boston to a championship.  If he were to go in to next season with a championship ring after proving he's willing to do what it takes to win, then his value to other teams would rise exponentially (think James Harden when he went from 6th man in OKC to superstar in Houston). 

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Knicks (0-0) Game #1 10/25/23
« Reply #209 on: October 25, 2023, 08:34:37 PM »

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In a year, what can we get for JB? Maybe a starting big next to Zinger and a legit bench piece.

I just don't have confidence that he's going to 1.) figure out how to fit in 2.) actually try to fit in.

And that's just not based on tonight. I'm basing that on 7 years of watching him play.

I agree and have felt this way for a while now. 

I'm not sure we're going to have much choice - he really seems like he wants to be the #1 guy somewhere.  I don't think he'll ever be truly willing to accept that he's the #2 guy...and the way Porzingis is playing, JB may well get downgraded to the #3 guy.  If that happens then I wouldn't be at all shocked if JB requests a trade at some point.

Just plain self-centered. Remember how Max and Parish and McHale sacrificed their own points for the success of the team.
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