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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2023, 04:21:43 PM »

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I am happy enough to get Gabriel, I don't see him as much better than Kornet though.  More of a PF than C so positionally a good fit, but still 3rd string, end of bench guy.  Nothing wrong with that, need 3rd string end of bench guys too.

But I don't get the excitement about Biyombo,  He shot 37% FT% last season, yes that is free throws.  He is a career 53%.  If you tell me you want Biyombo over Kornet, I guess, maybe, but I don't see him anywhere but end of the bench.  I think Gabriel (PF) and Kornet (C) for the end of the bench is fine.  Then work on getting a better big with the TPE sometime along the way.

I think Gabriel played most of his minutes last year as a center.

I'll even go a step further and say that [if he makes the roster] he was brought in to exclusively play Center. There are very few scenarios I can imagine where he would be out there as a PF. Like, maybe garbage time with Kornet or something.

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2023, 05:44:44 PM »

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I am happy enough to get Gabriel, I don't see him as much better than Kornet though.  More of a PF than C so positionally a good fit, but still 3rd string, end of bench guy.  Nothing wrong with that, need 3rd string end of bench guys too.

But I don't get the excitement about Biyombo,  He shot 37% FT% last season, yes that is free throws.  He is a career 53%.  If you tell me you want Biyombo over Kornet, I guess, maybe, but I don't see him anywhere but end of the bench.  I think Gabriel (PF) and Kornet (C) for the end of the bench is fine.  Then work on getting a better big with the TPE sometime along the way.

I think Gabriel played most of his minutes last year as a center.

I'll even go a step further and say that [if he makes the roster] he was brought in to exclusively play Center. There are very few scenarios I can imagine where he would be out there as a PF. Like, maybe garbage time with Kornet or something.

He’s pretty slight for a center. ESPN has him listed at 6’9”/205lb, Forward.
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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2023, 06:14:26 PM »

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I am happy enough to get Gabriel, I don't see him as much better than Kornet though.  More of a PF than C so positionally a good fit, but still 3rd string, end of bench guy.  Nothing wrong with that, need 3rd string end of bench guys too.

But I don't get the excitement about Biyombo,  He shot 37% FT% last season, yes that is free throws.  He is a career 53%.  If you tell me you want Biyombo over Kornet, I guess, maybe, but I don't see him anywhere but end of the bench.  I think Gabriel (PF) and Kornet (C) for the end of the bench is fine.  Then work on getting a better big with the TPE sometime along the way.

I think Gabriel played most of his minutes last year as a center.

I'll even go a step further and say that [if he makes the roster] he was brought in to exclusively play Center. There are very few scenarios I can imagine where he would be out there as a PF. Like, maybe garbage time with Kornet or something.

He’s pretty slight for a center. ESPN has him listed at 6’9”/205lb, Forward.

I'm not saying he's Shaq, but the dude is jacked - definitely more than 205lbs. That's actually funny. Take a look at this video by Tomasz Kordylewski (he always has the best highlight videos imo). Everything about this guy screams Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxiTgwW1cM

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2023, 07:00:46 PM »

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I am happy enough to get Gabriel, I don't see him as much better than Kornet though.  More of a PF than C so positionally a good fit, but still 3rd string, end of bench guy.  Nothing wrong with that, need 3rd string end of bench guys too.

But I don't get the excitement about Biyombo,  He shot 37% FT% last season, yes that is free throws.  He is a career 53%.  If you tell me you want Biyombo over Kornet, I guess, maybe, but I don't see him anywhere but end of the bench.  I think Gabriel (PF) and Kornet (C) for the end of the bench is fine.  Then work on getting a better big with the TPE sometime along the way.

I think Gabriel played most of his minutes last year as a center.

I'll even go a step further and say that [if he makes the roster] he was brought in to exclusively play Center. There are very few scenarios I can imagine where he would be out there as a PF. Like, maybe garbage time with Kornet or something.

He’s pretty slight for a center. ESPN has him listed at 6’9”/205lb, Forward.

I'm not saying he's Shaq, but the dude is jacked - definitely more than 205lbs. That's actually funny. Take a look at this video by Tomasz Kordylewski (he always has the best highlight videos imo). Everything about this guy screams Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxiTgwW1cM

I've been watching him since he was with the Kings.  Fans are gonna love his hustle.

At times he'll be in the undersized center roll that Grant Williams occasionally played.

But I could see him paired up with Porzingis at times.

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2023, 09:26:25 AM »

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I'm not saying he's Shaq, but the dude is jacked - definitely more than 205lbs. That's actually funny. Take a look at this video by Tomasz Kordylewski (he always has the best highlight videos imo). Everything about this guy screams Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxiTgwW1cM

I think Gabriel can be useful, but your definition of "jacked" is definitely different than mine.

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2023, 09:54:34 AM »

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I'm not saying he's Shaq, but the dude is jacked - definitely more than 205lbs. That's actually funny. Take a look at this video by Tomasz Kordylewski (he always has the best highlight videos imo). Everything about this guy screams Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxiTgwW1cM

Finally got a chance to watch the highlights.  He looks great.  His timing on the court is excellent.  His timing to release from his man and double was excellent, and he has the quickness to get there.  I felt his defense was right there with RWill.  His passing was surprisingly good, very quick decisions, sometimes even touch passes with purpose, again, very reminiscent of RWill.  His scoring was mostly dunks but he did hit a couple of 3s, kind of end of the shot clock forced shots, but his stroke was better than Rob's. 

I don't know if you want to call him a center or a PF but if he is on the court with Porzingis, Porzingis will cover the biggest opposing player (the center), same with Horford, same with Kornet.  Gabriel will cover the more athletic of the bigs.  His style of play, defense and rebounding, is more like a center I guess, which is fine on this team as our primary bigs, Porzingis and Horford, are more offensive minded.

I am going to make the classic mistake of getting my hopes up on Gabriel based on a highlight reel.  I think he can play in the primary rotation.  He won't need to do all that much on this team to be an effective complementary player, just defend, rebound, and finish when you get the chance.  Plus make your FTs (62% career).

He barely played for the Lakers in the playoffs last season so they clearly did not view him as playoff rotation ready.  Plus it appears that they made no effort to bring him back.  So somewhere between Noah Vonleh and Rob Williams is what we can expect from Gabriel.

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2023, 10:48:29 AM »

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A good friend of mine is a die hard Lakers fan (our conversations are fun lol.) He said we are going to love Gabriel in a 10ish minute role. He is a ball of constant frenetic energy that can move well for his size.
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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2023, 10:54:22 AM »

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A good friend of mine is a die hard Lakers fan (our conversations are fun lol.) He said we are going to love Gabriel in a 10ish minute role. He is a ball of constant frenetic energy that can move well for his size.

Exactly what they need. Combine that with Lamar Stevens and the Cs has some serious hustle on the bench

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« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2023, 11:42:14 AM »

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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2023, 01:07:06 PM »

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A good friend of mine is a die hard Lakers fan (our conversations are fun lol.) He said we are going to love Gabriel in a 10ish minute role. He is a ball of constant frenetic energy that can move well for his size.

Exactly what the Kings fans said about him.  Except they didn't have enough vets around him when he was there.

10mpg, some hustle plays to spark a run, fire up the crowd, put some pressure on the other team's players to have to guard him hard...

It's a nice pickup by Stevens.

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2023, 02:32:21 PM »

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so, maybe we should have a poll? who gets more minutes over the season - kornet or gabriel?
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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2023, 02:36:29 PM »

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so, maybe we should have a poll? who gets more minutes over the season - kornet or gabriel?

I see Gabriel as more of a PF than a C. Horford and Porzingis are modern 5’s, so I’m hoping they get most of their minutes there and that we don’t see much Kornet.
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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2023, 02:58:30 PM »

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I think we have 13 back to back games this year plus whatever happens for the in season tourney. Whatever the number is, I assume KP will sit out one of those games and AH will sit out the other -unless it is a match up against a really really good team - then both play that game and then both sit out the other game.

Either way someone is going to get some center minutes for those 26 games - so I think Luke is going to play this year in addition to Wenyen.

Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2023, 03:11:40 PM »

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I am happy enough to get Gabriel, I don't see him as much better than Kornet though.  More of a PF than C so positionally a good fit, but still 3rd string, end of bench guy.  Nothing wrong with that, need 3rd string end of bench guys too.

But I don't get the excitement about Biyombo,  He shot 37% FT% last season, yes that is free throws.  He is a career 53%.  If you tell me you want Biyombo over Kornet, I guess, maybe, but I don't see him anywhere but end of the bench.  I think Gabriel (PF) and Kornet (C) for the end of the bench is fine.  Then work on getting a better big with the TPE sometime along the way.

I think Gabriel played most of his minutes last year as a center.

I'll even go a step further and say that [if he makes the roster] he was brought in to exclusively play Center. There are very few scenarios I can imagine where he would be out there as a PF. Like, maybe garbage time with Kornet or something.

He’s pretty slight for a center. ESPN has him listed at 6’9”/205lb, Forward.

I'm not saying he's Shaq, but the dude is jacked - definitely more than 205lbs. That's actually funny. Take a look at this video by Tomasz Kordylewski (he always has the best highlight videos imo). Everything about this guy screams Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxiTgwW1cM

I've been watching him since he was with the Kings.  Fans are gonna love his hustle.

At times he'll be in the undersized center roll that Grant Williams occasionally played.

But I could see him paired up with Porzingis at times.
All I know of him are these highlights but he seems to move really well for someone his size. Obvisouyl he doesn't shoot like Grant but I wonder if he'll get some of those Grant defensive assignments like Giannis (in lesser minutes).
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Re: C’s sign Wenyen Gabriel
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2023, 03:16:11 PM »

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I am happy enough to get Gabriel, I don't see him as much better than Kornet though.  More of a PF than C so positionally a good fit, but still 3rd string, end of bench guy.  Nothing wrong with that, need 3rd string end of bench guys too.

But I don't get the excitement about Biyombo,  He shot 37% FT% last season, yes that is free throws.  He is a career 53%.  If you tell me you want Biyombo over Kornet, I guess, maybe, but I don't see him anywhere but end of the bench.  I think Gabriel (PF) and Kornet (C) for the end of the bench is fine.  Then work on getting a better big with the TPE sometime along the way.

I think Gabriel played most of his minutes last year as a center.

I'll even go a step further and say that [if he makes the roster] he was brought in to exclusively play Center. There are very few scenarios I can imagine where he would be out there as a PF. Like, maybe garbage time with Kornet or something.

He’s pretty slight for a center. ESPN has him listed at 6’9”/205lb, Forward.

I'm not saying he's Shaq, but the dude is jacked - definitely more than 205lbs. That's actually funny. Take a look at this video by Tomasz Kordylewski (he always has the best highlight videos imo). Everything about this guy screams Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxiTgwW1cM

I've been watching him since he was with the Kings.  Fans are gonna love his hustle.

At times he'll be in the undersized center roll that Grant Williams occasionally played.

But I could see him paired up with Porzingis at times.
All I know of him are these highlights but he seems to move really well for someone his size. Obvisouyl he doesn't shoot like Grant but I wonder if he'll get some of those Grant defensive assignments like Giannis (in lesser minutes).

He certainly looks like an NBA player.  I wonder why he could only get a camp invite,