I’m really surprised this many people are supportive of Mac. Saban didn’t love him either and said he had maturity issues (though Saban did say he improved on them). But you could arguably say the goat of college football and the goat coach of the NFL had some issues with him, and we want to assume they are both wrong on this guy to give Mac the benefit of the doubt and pile on bill.
There is also a big difference between guys like baker and mayfield that were the number one overall pick in terms of physical skills then someone like Mac at 15
I agree. From what's been reported, he's a QB who refused to listen to coaches, went around BB's back, and who lost the locker room. It's not just the coaching staff that doesn't trust the kid. And, on the field, he's played like hot garbage. Regardless of system, 24 TDs vs.. 23 INTs over the past two years isn't going to get it done.
Where was all of that his rookie year. So he just regressed for no reason? Or could it have been a dysfunctional/toxic work environment that had something to do with it… if Mac is that bad and also a problem in the locker room, why haven’t they released him?
Bill's lack of confidence in Mac destroyed Mac
Your take on Mac jones, especially around the bills game and one game causing him to have a complete mental breakdown, is so bad that is become an iconically bad take on this forums. I would suggest you just take the l on it at this point. If Mac jones is starting for a playoff team two or three years from
Now I’ll be the first one to give you 100 Tommy points. But otherwise this bit has kind of become an open joke.
the fact that you think that is my position is why you have no business responding to me.
Mo literally everyone on here knows your position, you have said it like 25 times….
You can get into semantics with me but you have repeatedly said Mac jones only throwing 5 times or whatever it was in a terrible weather game against the bills showed the team had no confidence in him and he was never the same. Just cause everyone ridiculed you for it doesn’t mean you didn’t say it…
That is closer to the position. the game was a symptom not the cause. The cause being Bill had no confidence in Mac. Bill has continually shown that since that game, but that is the game when Bill told the world he had no confidence in his QB.
And to be clear, here are Mac Jones splits before that game and after that game.
Before that Bills game the team was 8-4 and Mac had 16 TD's, 8 INT's, a completion % of 70.34, a rating of 97.1, as a rookie starting his first 12 games ever.
After that game, rest of 2021 regular season the team was 1-3 and Mac had 6 TD's, 5 INT's, a completion % of 59.85, a rating of 79.7. The playoff game the Pats lost by 30, and Mac had 2 TD's, 2 INT's, a completion % of 63.16, and a rating of 75.8.
Now surely he'd be better in his 2nd year, well the team went 6-8 in his starts, he had 14 TD's, 11 INT's, a completion % of 65.2, with a rating of 84.8. So he was actually better in year 2 then he was at the close of year 1.
Of course, we know it kept going down this year with the team at 2-9, 10 TD's, 12 INT's, a completion % of 63.9, with a rating of 77.0.
1 game didn't cause Mac to have a mental breakdown, but that 1 game was definitely the turning point in Mac's progression into the 2nd worst QB in the league (only Zappe is worse). Bill's conduct after that didn't help and made it worse, but Bill's conduct is a direct result of him not believing in Mac Jones, which is why he didn't trust Mac to throw the ball. I very much liken it to the Sixers and Simmons. Game 7 didn't fracture Simmons relationship with the Sixers, it just made the previously private issues, very public in a very visible way that they could never recover from. So much so, Simmons refused to play for the Sixers again. Mac didn't do that and Bill subjected him to 2 years of Bill's nonsense.
