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Jordan Walsh in Summer League
« on: July 16, 2023, 08:18:47 AM »

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Everything I've heard about this kid is that he's an excellent defender with a strong work ethic but no shot. Through 5 summer league games he shot .402 on three's. Summer league doesn't mean much but it's a nice sign that he has the potential to develop a shot at the NBA level.

If he can just hit corner three's with some kind of consistency and his defense translates at all he'll probably see some minutes this season.
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Re: Jordan Walsh in Summer League
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2023, 08:21:40 AM »

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The shooting was nice, but his passing and ability to get into the paint surprised me the most. Some plays reminded me of a young Iguodala
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How was he credited with only one steal yesterday?

Re: Jordan Walsh in Summer League
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2023, 10:51:22 AM »

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Right now, I see Walsh as mainly operating on BB instincts (which are good), athleticism (which is good) and excellent size/strength. He is a very promising prospect which is why he already has a 4-year deal. However, he has a lot to learn and he needs other basic skills improvements which the C's system will provide (includes significant time in Maine). Examples:
1. He's a bit out-of-control flying around the court and gets caught in the wrong place
2. His shooting form is ok but still needs refinement to be more consistent. I noticed his release look like the ball is off to the side.

Will he be ahead in the depth chart of Hauser and Brissette and possibly another vet SF/PF that Brad may add? I am not so sure, at least to start the season.

Re: Jordan Walsh in Summer League
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2023, 03:13:11 PM »

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Re: Jordan Walsh in Summer League
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Kedrick Brown ruined any excitement summer league creates for me
I can’t find any stats on him during summer league, but my recollection was that he was very passive offensively and I was just watching hoping to see him do something good. Perhaps my recollection fails me, but if not, it’s very different than Walsh who showed more offensive game and better long range shooting than I expected.

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Kedrick Brown ruined any excitement summer league creates for me
I can’t find any stats on him during summer league, but my recollection was that he was very passive offensively and I was just watching hoping to see him do something good. Perhaps my recollection fails me, but if not, it’s very different than Walsh who showed more offensive game and better long range shooting than I expected.

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In 2003, John Salmons of the Philadelphia 76ers was named the league's Most Outstanding Player with an average of 19.6 points and 5.8 assists per game. Salmons was also named to the Reebok Pro Summer League First Team with Kedrick Brown and Brandon Hunter of the Boston Celtics, Devin Brown of the San Antonio Spurs and Donny Marshall of the New Jersey Nets. The second team consisted of Juan Dixon of the Washington Wizards, T.J. Ford of the Milwaukee Bucks, Marcus Banks of the Boston Celtics, Brian Scalabrine of the New Jersey Nets and Carlos Boozer of the Cleveland Cavaliers.


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I'm not going to come out of this Summer League with a conclusion on Walsh, other than it was good to see him get some experience without getting hurt. I think the Iguodala comps are premature, but the length and defensive tendencies do seem to be there. I think the Celtics once again will win 55+ games, so he should get solid minutes with both the starters and scrubs. The future is bright for this guy!
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I'm not going to come out of this Summer League with a conclusion on Walsh, other than it was good to see him get some experience without getting hurt. I think the Iguodala comps are premature, but the length and defensive tendencies do seem to be there. I think the Celtics once again will win 55+ games, so he should get solid minutes with both the starters and scrubs. The future is bright for this guy!

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I wouldn't get excited by the stats of anyone in summer league, but what you can see is the attitude, mindset and bball instincts of the rookies that imo holds up in their NBA performances. Walsh showed a really great competitiveness, defensive instincts and court vision for a guy at his position.

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2023, 05:00:41 PM »

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I'm not going to come out of this Summer League with a conclusion on Walsh, other than it was good to see him get some experience without getting hurt. I think the Iguodala comps are premature, but the length and defensive tendencies do seem to be there. I think the Celtics once again will win 55+ games, so he should get solid minutes with both the starters and scrubs. The future is bright for this guy!
I should clarify - I don't think the odds are that he'll be like Iguodala, but just that on certain plays I was reminded of how Iggy would operate in Philly
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2023, 05:10:43 PM »

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I'm not going to come out of this Summer League with a conclusion on Walsh, other than it was good to see him get some experience without getting hurt. I think the Iguodala comps are premature, but the length and defensive tendencies do seem to be there. I think the Celtics once again will win 55+ games, so he should get solid minutes with both the starters and scrubs. The future is bright for this guy!
I should clarify - I don't think the odds are that he'll be like Iguodala, but just that on certain plays I was reminded of how Iggy would operate in Philly

TP- not directed at you. I also see Iggy as an optimistic comp. In college, he showed defensive energy and an ability to run the floor. That alone should get him 10-15 minutes out of the gates.

This team is definitely committed to the 3 point shot, so he will have to improve. If Walsh really is a hard worker, he could improve over time, as Marcus Smart did.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2023, 05:30:09 PM »

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Kedrick Brown ruined any excitement summer league creates for me
I can’t find any stats on him during summer league, but my recollection was that he was very passive offensively and I was just watching hoping to see him do something good. Perhaps my recollection fails me, but if not, it’s very different than Walsh who showed more offensive game and better long range shooting than I expected.

I found this:

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In 2003, John Salmons of the Philadelphia 76ers was named the league's Most Outstanding Player with an average of 19.6 points and 5.8 assists per game. Salmons was also named to the Reebok Pro Summer League First Team with Kedrick Brown and Brandon Hunter of the Boston Celtics, Devin Brown of the San Antonio Spurs and Donny Marshall of the New Jersey Nets. The second team consisted of Juan Dixon of the Washington Wizards, T.J. Ford of the Milwaukee Bucks, Marcus Banks of the Boston Celtics, Brian Scalabrine of the New Jersey Nets and Carlos Boozer of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Great find. ALWAYS hopeful about prospects!! - including that crew - Hunter, Banks, Kedrick (where’s Joe Forte?). We know how they all turned out.
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Kedrick Brown ruined any excitement summer league creates for me
I can’t find any stats on him during summer league, but my recollection was that he was very passive offensively and I was just watching hoping to see him do something good. Perhaps my recollection fails me, but if not, it’s very different than Walsh who showed more offensive game and better long range shooting than I expected.

I found this:

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In 2003, John Salmons of the Philadelphia 76ers was named the league's Most Outstanding Player with an average of 19.6 points and 5.8 assists per game. Salmons was also named to the Reebok Pro Summer League First Team with Kedrick Brown and Brandon Hunter of the Boston Celtics, Devin Brown of the San Antonio Spurs and Donny Marshall of the New Jersey Nets. The second team consisted of Juan Dixon of the Washington Wizards, T.J. Ford of the Milwaukee Bucks, Marcus Banks of the Boston Celtics, Brian Scalabrine of the New Jersey Nets and Carlos Boozer of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Remember when John Salmons flirted with being a 20PPG guy? TJ Ford could have been really good too if his back had held up.

Boozer is the definite standout there. Nearly 10 years of being an 18/10/2 fringe All-Star
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2023, 05:45:05 PM »

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I'm not going to come out of this Summer League with a conclusion on Walsh, other than it was good to see him get some experience without getting hurt. I think the Iguodala comps are premature, but the length and defensive tendencies do seem to be there. I think the Celtics once again will win 55+ games, so he should get solid minutes with both the starters and scrubs. The future is bright for this guy!
I should clarify - I don't think the odds are that he'll be like Iguodala, but just that on certain plays I was reminded of how Iggy would operate in Philly

TP- not directed at you. I also see Iggy as an optimistic comp. In college, he showed defensive energy and an ability to run the floor. That alone should get him 10-15 minutes out of the gates.

This team is definitely committed to the 3 point shot, so he will have to improve. If Walsh really is a hard worker, he could improve over time, as Marcus Smart did.

Will Cs be as committed to the 3 as they were last year?  Certainly some of their moves, or almost moves, tell us that it’s possible they’ll be at least somewhat less reliant on the long ball.  They traded Muscala, Gallo, and Grant, and tried to trade their top 3-shooter in Brogdon.  They got back average 3-guy in KP who’ll shoot most of his shots inside the arc.  True they ended up trading below average shooter in Smart, but that’s 5.6 3-attempts per game.

I’m not saying the 3-ball won’t be a factor in the Cs offense, but I hope the 3 is less in their heads as a first option.