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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2023, 06:17:17 AM »

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I have never understood this desire to trade Brogdon. He was one of our most consistent guys this year, brought much needed ball movement and good decision making to a team short on both. All that as well as being a model team player.

Is his injury a permanent condition or will he heal up and be ok by, say, mid-season at the worst.
I don't like the fact that he was publicly shopped around, even if it came from the Clippers or whoever.
I remember how Danny did the same to Ray Allen and how badly that ended.
Then, the reputation we got from pushing Isaiah Thomas out the door after his injury became worse by his willingness to play in pain.
Brogdon did everything he was asked to do and then some. And everyone was full of praise during most of the season. What happened ?

an EXTREME case of recency bias is what happened. Fans remember watching him struggle against Miami and thats all they remember....they forget how consistent he was during the season and was a solid 3rd scoring option for the Jays. His stats were better than Smarts last year...he won 6moty for a reason.

I understand trading him for KP to add more roster balance. At the time he was the easiest to move of the 3 because white had improved so much, and Smart vs. Brogdon was more about Smart being longer tenured and the "emotional" leader of the team.

But now that Smart is gone, the calls to trade Brogdon are asinine. You traded one of smart/brogdon/white to create more balance across the roster (glut of quality guards, missing quality bigs) now you have that.

why on earth would you create now a need at guard? or trade away a guy who averaged 14.9 points on 48% shooting and 44% shooting from 3? with Smart gone, Brogdon becomes even more important here.
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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2023, 07:29:16 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2023, 07:46:16 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.
I think White starts. He was great as a starter in Smart’s absence, and is our best POA defender
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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2023, 07:57:27 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.
I think White starts. He was great as a starter in Smart’s absence, and is our best POA defender
He's also cracked 65 games a season more than once since the Obama administration, unlike Brogdon.
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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2023, 08:13:03 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.
I think White starts. He was great as a starter in Smart’s absence, and is our best POA defender
He's also cracked 65 games a season more than once since the Obama administration, unlike Brogdon.

Technically Brogdon reached his 65th game after Trump’s inauguration in his rookie season.

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2023, 08:19:40 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.

Think he is better suited to be a starter and hope this is the way Joe goes

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2023, 09:10:04 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.

Think he is better suited to be a starter and hope this is the way Joe goes

I don’t see any way we aren’t starting a two big lineup having acquired Porzingis.  And White should start over Brogdon as the lone PG.  So Brogdon will continue to be an overqualified 6th man.

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2023, 09:50:53 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.

Think he is better suited to be a starter and hope this is the way Joe goes

I don’t see any way we aren’t starting a two big lineup having acquired Porzingis.  And White should start over Brogdon as the lone PG.  So Brogdon will continue to be an overqualified 6th man.

Pretty much my thought.


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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2023, 09:52:27 AM »

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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2023, 10:40:14 AM »

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As people have told me my whole life, there's no reason to worry about something you don't know is even occurring.   If there is worry, the worry would be about the possibility of Brogdon having hurt feelings, not that he actually does have hurt feelings.   Who the heck knows what Brogdon's feelings are?   Me and Matthew aren't very close, but from what I see through body language and post-game interviews, he seems like a mature, professional man -- not all that emotional, if anything a very stoic character.   Yet, I haven't the foggiest notion (nor I suspect does Jared Weiss) whether 1) Brogdon's feelings are hurt, or 2) whether his hurt feelings will impact his play and the team.

Love Brogdon, hope he's here in the fall.  I think White should be the starting PG.   Hope Pritchard is here and plays 15 mpg.   

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #40 on: June 27, 2023, 11:01:43 AM »

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I hope Brogdon is the starting PG. He was a starter in Indy and accepted the 6th man role to come to Boston to win a chip. I'm not worried about hurt feelings but a starting spot may help him.
I think White starts. He was great as a starter in Smart’s absence, and is our best POA defender
He's also cracked 65 games a season more than once since the Obama administration, unlike Brogdon.

Technically Brogdon reached his 65th game after Trump’s inauguration in his rookie season.
Excellent catch.
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Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2023, 11:13:22 AM »

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We shouldn't . These are pros, this isn't biddie ball

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2023, 11:47:49 AM »

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Pritchard is at best an 8-9th guy off the bench. He has been up and down when he did get playing time. He's good in some small spurts here and there hence the 8th or 9th guy. He is way overvaluing himself. He wants playing time? Then do better consistently. He gets a lot of playing time anywhere he will get exposed quickly. 

Brogdon just saw the Celtics trade Smart who has been on the team for a while so the chance that Brogdon is hurt after seeing that I doubt it. He knows this is a business and he will still have a big role on this team in competing for a championship.

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2023, 11:51:04 AM »

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About 0%, these are grown men. The C's were trying to trade Brogdon to LAC, which is a good team in one of the most desirable NBA cities. not siberia.

Re: How much should we worry about hurt feelings?
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2023, 03:33:25 PM »

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I'm really a bit confused about the Payton Pritchard thing. He's a fine player, but he's nowhere near good enough to be demanding trades or causing scenes. I'm not sure he's starter talent anywhere and he's not going to be much better than 6th or 7th man talent anywhere, and even that's pushing it. His best outcome is getting a consistent 8th or 9th man role here in Boston, excelling in it, and then hitting free agency. His worst outcome is causing a scene, going somewhere new, and then not rising to the occasion. I think the latter is way more likely than the former. Just be a good soldier and play.

It's like when N'Keal Harry demanded a trade. Maybe not exactly as bad but it's what comes to mind. Congrats, N'Keal -- you're still unsigned now.
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