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I guess it is hard to know as a fan how serious this injury could be but it is his arm.  Seems like that can be fixed or should heal.  I know he uses his arm to dribble and shoot but it is not quite the same as a leg injury.  It is not like he is a pitcher.  Even if he needs half the season to heal/rehab, who cares.

I know a lot of people feel that "Brad isn't done" but I think he is probably done in terms of point guard / combo guards.  White will likely start and Brogdon will be the 6th man again.  Pritchard and maybe Davison provide depth. I don't see any reason to tinker with this.  I can see why LAC may have been more hesitant to trade for Brogdon, but I am not that worried about this injury.
I see it that way too with D.White as the starting PG and Brodgon continuing his 6th man role (6MOY). However, PP will still not be happy, he moves from 4th to 3rd PG.

I think Pritchard and Grant could still be moved.

You move PP if you think Brogdan is going to be ok. If not, you have to keep him...even if MB misses 20-30 games to start the season.

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I guess it is hard to know as a fan how serious this injury could be but it is his arm.  Seems like that can be fixed or should heal.  I know he uses his arm to dribble and shoot but it is not quite the same as a leg injury.  It is not like he is a pitcher.  Even if he needs half the season to heal/rehab, who cares.

I know a lot of people feel that "Brad isn't done" but I think he is probably done in terms of point guard / combo guards.  White will likely start and Brogdon will be the 6th man again.  Pritchard and maybe Davison provide depth. I don't see any reason to tinker with this.  I can see why LAC may have been more hesitant to trade for Brogdon, but I am not that worried about this injury.
I see it that way too with D.White as the starting PG and Brodgon continuing his 6th man role (6MOY). However, PP will still not be happy, he moves from 4th to 3rd PG.

I think Pritchard and Grant could still be moved.

I agree with all of that, but there have to be some minutes opening up with Smart leaving. Brogdon and White were both there last year too and played in the high 20s in minutes, so it's not like they're going to gobble up more than a couple more each. I see Horford, Williams, Porzingis giving us something like 20-25, 20-25, 25-30 which is 75-ish minutes of the 96 available at the bigs. So we'll probably see at least 10-15 minutes a game of Tatum at the 4, which pushes Brown or Hauser to the 3, which pushes White or Brogdon to defending the 2, which creates a role for Pritchard. At least the way it's currently set up.
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Gotta be serious the way he was chucking airballs the last two games...give him props for at least trying to play, but it hurt us.
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Golf and tennis Elbow are painful, he showed a lot of grit to even try to play.

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I don't think it's likely that he's untrade-able, but might require being packaged with the Memphis+GS picks to get back worthwhile value. I have to think that's why Brad took the picks. He knows there's another move and needed the picks.


This switching of Marcus for Brogdon told me we were desperate for Porzinas.  We wanted him before he got on the market.

I had ''tennis'' elbow bad . It's pain hard to describe. I initially got it from splitting firewood. I would palm the split piece and do a push throw into the truck.I was OK for a long time but started hurting and took me awhile to change my habits. Then I somehow loading a sheet of drywall twisted it, got the tendons on the wrong side of my elbow and was in agony , they slipped back but it took a long time and I still feel it.  It might be better if he had a leg injury than bad shooting elbow.

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I guess it is hard to know as a fan how serious this injury could be but it is his arm.  Seems like that can be fixed or should heal.  I know he uses his arm to dribble and shoot but it is not quite the same as a leg injury.  It is not like he is a pitcher.  Even if he needs half the season to heal/rehab, who cares.

I know a lot of people feel that "Brad isn't done" but I think he is probably done in terms of point guard / combo guards.  White will likely start and Brogdon will be the 6th man again.  Pritchard and maybe Davison provide depth. I don't see any reason to tinker with this.  I can see why LAC may have been more hesitant to trade for Brogdon, but I am not that worried about this injury.
I see it that way too with D.White as the starting PG and Brodgon continuing his 6th man role (6MOY). However, PP will still not be happy, he moves from 4th to 3rd PG.

I think Pritchard and Grant could still be moved.

You move PP if you think Brogdan is going to be ok. If not, you have to keep him...even if MB misses 20-30 games to start the season.

I am fine with JD Davison as the backup PG while Brogdon recovers from his injury. No need to keep PP.

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I guess it is hard to know as a fan how serious this injury could be but it is his arm.  Seems like that can be fixed or should heal.  I know he uses his arm to dribble and shoot but it is not quite the same as a leg injury.  It is not like he is a pitcher.  Even if he needs half the season to heal/rehab, who cares.

I know a lot of people feel that "Brad isn't done" but I think he is probably done in terms of point guard / combo guards.  White will likely start and Brogdon will be the 6th man again.  Pritchard and maybe Davison provide depth. I don't see any reason to tinker with this.  I can see why LAC may have been more hesitant to trade for Brogdon, but I am not that worried about this injury.
I see it that way too with D.White as the starting PG and Brodgon continuing his 6th man role (6MOY). However, PP will still not be happy, he moves from 4th to 3rd PG.

I think Pritchard and Grant could still be moved.

I agree with all of that, but there have to be some minutes opening up with Smart leaving. Brogdon and White were both there last year too and played in the high 20s in minutes, so it's not like they're going to gobble up more than a couple more each. I see Horford, Williams, Porzingis giving us something like 20-25, 20-25, 25-30 which is 75-ish minutes of the 96 available at the bigs. So we'll probably see at least 10-15 minutes a game of Tatum at the 4, which pushes Brown or Hauser to the 3, which pushes White or Brogdon to defending the 2, which creates a role for Pritchard. At least the way it's currently set up.


I don't know if Pritchard will be happy with his minutes or not but he definitely should see more minutes than last season with Smart gone and Brogdon potentially rehabbing at the start of the season.  He is a useful player on a good contract, I see no reason to trade him and a lot of reasons to keep him, at least for the start of the season. By the trade deadline, you will know where Brogdon is at, maybe Davison or a draft pick has developed, and maybe you can reevaluate trading Pritchard then.

If Pritchard isn't happy with that, I say too bad, you have about $4M reasons to figure out a way to deal with it, and I suspect he will.

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I guess it is hard to know as a fan how serious this injury could be but it is his arm.  Seems like that can be fixed or should heal.  I know he uses his arm to dribble and shoot but it is not quite the same as a leg injury.  It is not like he is a pitcher.  Even if he needs half the season to heal/rehab, who cares.

I know a lot of people feel that "Brad isn't done" but I think he is probably done in terms of point guard / combo guards.  White will likely start and Brogdon will be the 6th man again.  Pritchard and maybe Davison provide depth. I don't see any reason to tinker with this.  I can see why LAC may have been more hesitant to trade for Brogdon, but I am not that worried about this injury.
I see it that way too with D.White as the starting PG and Brodgon continuing his 6th man role (6MOY). However, PP will still not be happy, he moves from 4th to 3rd PG.

I think Pritchard and Grant could still be moved.

I agree with all of that, but there have to be some minutes opening up with Smart leaving. Brogdon and White were both there last year too and played in the high 20s in minutes, so it's not like they're going to gobble up more than a couple more each. I see Horford, Williams, Porzingis giving us something like 20-25, 20-25, 25-30 which is 75-ish minutes of the 96 available at the bigs. So we'll probably see at least 10-15 minutes a game of Tatum at the 4, which pushes Brown or Hauser to the 3, which pushes White or Brogdon to defending the 2, which creates a role for Pritchard. At least the way it's currently set up.


I don't know if Pritchard will be happy with his minutes or not but he definitely should see more minutes than last season with Smart gone and Brogdon potentially rehabbing at the start of the season.  He is a useful player on a good contract, I see no reason to trade him and a lot of reasons to keep him, at least for the start of the season. By the trade deadline, you will know where Brogdon is at, maybe Davison or a draft pick has developed, and maybe you can reevaluate trading Pritchard then.

If Pritchard isn't happy with that, I say too bad, you have about $4M reasons to figure out a way to deal with it, and I suspect he will.

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I wouldn't be surprised if he misses time to begin the season. These reports seem to imply it as well. Maybe not too long, but probably at least 4-6 weeks to start the season. Honestly though, that may not be a bad thing. Keep him as fresh as possible and hope he can contribute well for the 2nd half of the season + playoffs when it'll obviously matter.

We do need another PG though.
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I guess it is hard to know as a fan how serious this injury could be but it is his arm.  Seems like that can be fixed or should heal.  I know he uses his arm to dribble and shoot but it is not quite the same as a leg injury.  It is not like he is a pitcher.  Even if he needs half the season to heal/rehab, who cares.

I know a lot of people feel that "Brad isn't done" but I think he is probably done in terms of point guard / combo guards.  White will likely start and Brogdon will be the 6th man again.  Pritchard and maybe Davison provide depth. I don't see any reason to tinker with this.  I can see why LAC may have been more hesitant to trade for Brogdon, but I am not that worried about this injury.
I see it that way too with D.White as the starting PG and Brodgon continuing his 6th man role (6MOY). However, PP will still not be happy, he moves from 4th to 3rd PG.

I think Pritchard and Grant could still be moved.

I agree with all of that, but there have to be some minutes opening up with Smart leaving. Brogdon and White were both there last year too and played in the high 20s in minutes, so it's not like they're going to gobble up more than a couple more each. I see Horford, Williams, Porzingis giving us something like 20-25, 20-25, 25-30 which is 75-ish minutes of the 96 available at the bigs. So we'll probably see at least 10-15 minutes a game of Tatum at the 4, which pushes Brown or Hauser to the 3, which pushes White or Brogdon to defending the 2, which creates a role for Pritchard. At least the way it's currently set up.


I don't know if Pritchard will be happy with his minutes or not but he definitely should see more minutes than last season with Smart gone and Brogdon potentially rehabbing at the start of the season.  He is a useful player on a good contract, I see no reason to trade him and a lot of reasons to keep him, at least for the start of the season. By the trade deadline, you will know where Brogdon is at, maybe Davison or a draft pick has developed, and maybe you can reevaluate trading Pritchard then.

If Pritchard isn't happy with that, I say too bad, you have about $4M reasons to figure out a way to deal with it, and I suspect he will.

I could still easily see Pritchard getting traded. He's sort of not the best fit with the way the roster is constructed right right now. The team now needs more passing at the PG position, and he's really more of a SG in a PG sized body. He made a lot more sense with Smart still here and Brogdon gone.

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I wouldn't be surprised if he misses time to begin the season. These reports seem to imply it as well. Maybe not too long, but probably at least 4-6 weeks to start the season. Honestly though, that may not be a bad thing. Keep him as fresh as possible and hope he can contribute well for the 2nd half of the season + playoffs when it'll obviously matter.

We do need another PG though.

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Pritchard is a below average backup PG to a high level 3rd string PG. He is easily replaceable. Let him leave. Let him try and build his areer somewhere that he can get regular playing time. He has been a good servant to the team. Don't hold back his career any further.

JD Davison is good enough to replace Pritchard. He too will be a good 3rd string PG next year and likely a below average backup PG. That said, I like his upside better both in terms of next season and especially future seasons. His ball-handling, quickness and passing are all much better than Pritchard. He provides a skill-set that provides better contrast and optionality behind D White & Brogdon than Pritchard does. It is time to let the young fella show what he can do. He has proven himself enough outside of the Cs. Now it is time for him to come in and prove himself here.

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Could an elbow problem explain why Brogdon missed so many layups last season?

In the Miami series, he looked like a shell of himself. The injury was clearly bothering him. Pritchard would’ve outplayed him in that condition

The missed Brogdon layups were going on all season. 

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Per sources, the Clippers’ reversal on Brogdon was centered on not having time to complete a physical exam.
It’s still unclear whether Brogdon will need surgery on his forearm. But if he does, the belief is that he’d still be ready for the start of next season.

This makes sense to me, especially given the Clips recent injury woes.

If true this also makes the guard situation a bit more stable.
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https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/1671939471216967684?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

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Per sources, the Clippers’ reversal on Brogdon was centered on not having time to complete a physical exam.
It’s still unclear whether Brogdon will need surgery on his forearm. But if he does, the belief is that he’d still be ready for the start of next season.

This makes sense to me, especially given the Clips recent injury woes.

If true this also makes the guard situation a bit more stable.

Sounds like they just got cold feet late and tried to spin it by leaking the "significant" spin to Windy.
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https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/1671939471216967684?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

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Per sources, the Clippers’ reversal on Brogdon was centered on not having time to complete a physical exam.
It’s still unclear whether Brogdon will need surgery on his forearm. But if he does, the belief is that he’d still be ready for the start of next season.

This makes sense to me, especially given the Clips recent injury woes.

If true this also makes the guard situation a bit more stable.

Sounds like they just got cold feet late and tried to spin it by leaking the "significant" spin to Windy.

I don't know - I feel like having been on the paying end of the Kawhy-aren't-you-suiting-up? Leonard experience would make you a little gunshy on oft-injured players.
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