Our Draft Capital + Tradeable assets ahead of tonights NBA draft

[TheBigTicket23]

Still digesting a bit the news of last night. In general I like it, the sentimental part with losing Smart is tough, everyone will wish him nothing but the best, what a great guy.

That being said. Getting a more balanced roster + 2 FRP is a great 'haul'. Also the upside with KP is bigger, ofcourse there are big risks but there are few durable players anymore to be frank...

With getting assets back we have a bit more ammo to make this team even stronger right?

What do we have left:

First Round Draft picks:
2023: 25th pick
2024: BOS pick + GSW pick (top 4 protected).
Our own will probably be between 24-30, GSW potentially t0o but there is a world this is a lottery pick if all goes bad with Draymond + injuries.
2025: BOS pick
2026: BOS pick
2027: BOS pick
2028: The worst pick of BOS/SAS - pick swap as part of D-White trade
2029: BOS - can this pick be traded yet?

Basically 8 draft picks (one swap) in 7 years, not bad for a contender.

Players:
After the trade we have little tradeable assets left:
- Brogdon is still a big contract which is movable depending on his injury status.
- Payton Pritchard
- Sam Hauser (not really an asset right - or will he become Max Strus at the Miami Heat)
- JD Davison (i guess still can be seen as some what of an asset?)
- Grant Williams - i kind of expect him to leave, unless Celtics really want to pay. That being said, how important was he in 2023? Not really to be honest, mostly out of the rotation.

It's not a lot and if you need to get to a bigger number it would certainly involve Brogdon and potentially even Horford/RWIII.

Normally contenders now get better with getting rid of the picks for rotational pieces but this will be hard due to the salary matching.  We have a lot of expensive guys on the roster and we kind of also need some cheap ones. Hence will the celtics really trade more or use their picks to get young players and pray they will add to the team, e.g. like Braun did for Denver.
Or will the C's make another splash... Lillard... no right?

Very interesting day ahead!!

[footey]

Take Kris Murray at 25.

[gouki88]

Take Kris Murray at 25.

There are plenty of better options

[A Future of Stevens]

I have to read up on who could be available at 25 now. I have mostly focused on 30+. Murray and TJD seem like they could have minor contributions early. Everyone else seems like a project. I've heard Jet Howard is interesting, but analysts think it's a long shot he's ever a passable defender.

[celticinorlando]

TJD could help fill the void if grant leaves. Need to get someone ready to play at 25 if they keep the pick

[vjcsmoke]

I wouldn't mind us moving up for the right guy.

It's really up to Brad and how he sees the draft.

Maybe we take someone at 25, maybe we move up, or maybe we trade the pick in a package for a veteran.

We'll see soon enough!

[Celtics4ever]

I think he is terrified to draft and keeps trading back.     We must have a guy we wanted around 25 who got picked ahead of us.

[gouki88]

I think he is terrified to draft and keeps trading back.     We must have a guy we wanted around 25 who got picked ahead of us.

Maybe he just doesn’t rate adding one first rounder to a roster when he can add a half dozen picks to his treasury

[ozgod]

I think he is terrified to draft and keeps trading back.     We must have a guy we wanted around 25 who got picked ahead of us.

Could be this:



Brad is in win now mode, he's probably looking to add established players, role players or otherwise, and is giving up picks to do it.

[Kernewek]

I think he is terrified to draft and keeps trading back.     We must have a guy we wanted around 25 who got picked ahead of us.

Maybe he just doesn’t rate adding one first rounder to a roster when he can add a half dozen picks to his treasury

Eh, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s both, to be honest. We know the team is not spending with a true green light, but there’s little indication that Stevens has any faith in his scouts or himself to evaluate future late-first talent.

[Rikibellevie]

If for any reason (moneywise for MLE, no interest in any rookie in this range), Brad wasn't interested in this draft, why the hell didn't he take a later protected  1stfrom Memphis ?
 This is garbage for me and an insult to Smart (2 first OK, but when you transfer the 1st in a bunch of useless second just the day after the trade...). I am off Stevens now.

[gouki88]

If for any reason (moneywise for MLE, no interest in any rookie in this range), Brad wasn't interested in this draft, why the hell didn't he take a later protected  1stfrom Memphis ?
 This is garbage for me and an insult to Smart (2 first OK, but when you transfer the 1st in a bunch of useless second just the day after the trade...). I am off Stevens now.

Porzingis alone would have been a good return for Smart. A first from GSW (with good potential) plus a bunch of flexible seconds is a great icing on top.

[Rikibellevie]

I can give many argues on this has big chance to be a bad trade :
_ 1 year of Porzingis who will either miss the season or ask a big contract when Brown will catch the supermax against 3 years of Smart on a very good deal
_ we are loaded with big, but 2 of 3 are very injury prone and the 3rd is 37 (not even sure he will give something next POs)
_ hurting the identity of the team (who still was not far with a naive coach) and mentality (do you prefer go to war with Spartmarcus or with Unproven Unicorn)
_ having less playmaking 1 year after having said it was our target
_ take 2 firsts for Smart and don't use the 1st one ...
_ loosing some fans

And still my question : why not a future 1st from the Grizz when you have no intentions in this years draft and loose the 1st value 1 dat after the trade 

[boscel33]

This is just amazing in itself:

"Trading back down will mean that the Celtics still have yet to pick in the first round since Brad Stevens took the reins as President of Basketball Ops. Stevens traded out of the first round twice in his first two seasons with the team, moving first-rounders in the 2021 and 2022 NBA Drafts to acquire Al Horford and Derrick White, respectively."

Brad has never made a first-round pick!  Think about that!

[BitterJim]

I can give many argues on this has big chance to be a bad trade :
_ 1 year of Porzingis who will either miss the season or ask a big contract when Brown will catch the supermax against 3 years of Smart on a very good deal
_ we are loaded with big, but 2 of 3 are very injury prone and the 3rd is 37 (not even sure he will give something next POs)
_ hurting the identity of the team (who still was not far with a naive coach) and mentality (do you prefer go to war with Spartmarcus or with Unproven Unicorn)
_ having less playmaking 1 year after having said it was our target
_ take 2 firsts for Smart and don't use the 1st one ...
_ loosing some fans

And still my question : why not a future 1st from the Grizz when you have no intentions in this years draft and loose the 1st value 1 dat after the trade

Why are you acting like #38 is worth nothing compared to #25, and that all of the future seconds we got are worth nothing? People were acting the exact same way when we traded the #30 pick a couple of years ago because we got 2 seconds instead of a first, even though the first we traded was so late that it's worth about as much as an early second. While a first rounder is much more valuable than a second in a vacuum, these picks aren't in a vacuum because we already know that the first isn't a valuable one

And it's all well and good to say "just get a different pick instead", but why would the Grizzlies want to include a future first instead of a first that they already know is #25?

Also a possibility: Brad liked some guys in the 30s range, and was set on adding one. But we had to trade #35 as part of the KP deal, so he wanted a pick this year in return. He then traded out of the first to maintain the TPMLE, but when #31 came along there were still plenty of people he liked on the board, so why not trade down again? Would you feel better if we had taken Walsh at #25 instead of getting him and 4 future seconds because then he would be a first round pick?