Draft night for Celtics, what do you do?

[Celtics978Fan]

I'm curious what would be everybody's realistic trade options for the Celtics on draft night.  They don't need to be huge but trades that change us, plus also think about the new salary cap coming which is going to change a lot.  The biggest reason my trades involve Brown and Brogdon.
1.
Celtics - Brown
Blazers - Simons and 3rd pick (Scooter Henderson)

2.
Celtics - S&T Grant Williams and Pritchard
Jazz - #28th pick

3.
Celtics - Brogdon, #35
Grizzles - Adams, Zaire Williams, Lofton

1 - Celtics get a scoring, younger shooting guard who doesn't need the ball in his hand.  He's going to roughly be 15-20 million less a year over the next 3 years that Simons is signed for.  Celtics get the starting point guard for the future and makes Smart tradeable later if we want or White.  Blazers give Lillard a star next to him.

2 - William and Pritchard both get to be starters or 6th man for the Jazz.  They have multiple 1st round picks so they might as well turn one into 2 players Danny liked and drafted.  Celtics get a late first rounder on the cheap and can find a decent player here.

3 - Brogdon goes to get depth in positions of need and also with drafting Henderson you have a 3 guard rotation with Smart, White and Henderson.  Adams gives us a starting center and great backup.
 Williams gives us a young small forward that could start when needed and with Gallinari coming back 2 good players that fill the SF position for us.  Lofton gives us something we need in a big body that's can actually move for a player his size.  Can fill the Grant Williams role for us.  Brogdon goes there and helps them while Morant is out for the 25 games. 

Hope to see some interesting trades and with reasons behind them.

[footey]

cool ideas, TP.

I don't like the first trade because it would essentially be a re-set with a young point guard.

I  think you are giving up too much for the 28th pick in your second proposal.

I like your third proposal. I wonder if  Adams is available. I doubt that Griz would give that much up for Brogdan, though.

[obnoxiousmime]

I'm starting to think trading for another pick is the play here. They need to reset the clock a little bit for their young bench guys and this seemingly deep draft is an ideal time to do it. The two drafts after this one are supposed to be weak, so a late first/early second in this draft could be equivalent to a mid/late first in other drafts.

[gouki88]

CFAN mentioned it in another thread, but moving Pritchard & a future first round pick to Houston for #20 would be a pretty good move by my standard. As much as I enjoy putting together big trade packages, I don't see any happening with this group.

So, that leaves us with picks 20 and 35. I think we could nab two solid players at these spots.
 
20: Trayce Jackson-Davis. It might seem like a reach to pick him here, but I see no chance he falls to #35, and I think he can be a legit starter in the future. High-level athlete who uses that to real advantage both defensively and on the rebounds. He has a great second jump on rebounds, sort of like Timelord. He developed into a really good high-post playmaker, which is something we need to offset Horford's ageing. I could see him becoming a super damaging short roll player too. Good screener, rolls with speed and has the ability to finish at the rim, has a 7'1" wingspan, and he is smart on defence - barely fouls. I think he could be a bit like Draymond if he keeps developing, except he's bigger and worse at shooting 3s.

35: Keyontae Johnson. I should preface this by stating that I would only pick him if our medical staff are super comfortable with his heart condition. He is a physically imposing wing at 6'6" and 240lbs, with a 7' wingspan. He has a significant amount of offensive versatility, and at worst would be able to immediately provide what Grant does on offence. He's a good perimeter shooter, can draw fouls at a good level, and can bully smaller wings with ease. He is a very strong rebounder too, and loves to play a physical brand of ball.

We don't have too much to play with in free agency. I think Davison is still a year away, so I would look at Cory Joseph as a back-up PG. I trust Jackson-Davis to be able to contribute immediately, so much so that I would be comfortable not adding a big. With the team as below, I think running it back is fine. The coaching additions will help a lot. Give Brown his supermax, and if in 2 years the team has done nothing then ship him off.

Smart / Joseph
White / Brogdon
Brown / Hauser / Johnson
Tatum / Horford / Gallinari
Williams 3 / Jackson-Davis / Gallinari

[mobilija]

CFAN mentioned it in another thread, but moving Pritchard & a future first round pick to Houston for #20 would be a pretty good move by my standard. As much as I enjoy putting together big trade packages, I don't see any happening with this group.

So, that leaves us with picks 20 and 35. I think we could nab two solid players at these spots.
 
20: Trayce Jackson-Davis. It might seem like a reach to pick him here, but I see no chance he falls to #35, and I think he can be a legit starter in the future. High-level athlete who uses that to real advantage both defensively and on the rebounds. He has a great second jump on rebounds, sort of like Timelord. He developed into a really good high-post playmaker, which is something we need to offset Horford's ageing. I could see him becoming a super damaging short roll player too. Good screener, rolls with speed and has the ability to finish at the rim, has a 7'1" wingspan, and he is smart on defence - barely fouls. I think he could be a bit like Draymond if he keeps developing, except he's bigger and worse at shooting 3s.

35: Keyontae Johnson. I should preface this by stating that I would only pick him if our medical staff are super comfortable with his heart condition. He is a physically imposing wing at 6'6" and 240lbs, with a 7' wingspan. He has a significant amount of offensive versatility, and at worst would be able to immediately provide what Grant does on offence. He's a good perimeter shooter, can draw fouls at a good level, and can bully smaller wings with ease. He is a very strong rebounder too, and loves to play a physical brand of ball.

We don't have too much to play with in free agency. I think Davison is still a year away, so I would look at Cory Joseph as a back-up PG. I trust Jackson-Davis to be able to contribute immediately, so much so that I would be comfortable not adding a big. With the team as below, I think running it back is fine. The coaching additions will help a lot. Give Brown his supermax, and if in 2 years the team has done nothing then ship him off.

Smart / Joseph
White / Brogdon
Brown / Hauser / Johnson
Tatum / Horford / Gallinari
Williams 3 / Jackson-Davis / Gallinari

I'm in, TP.

Run it back w some cheap "veteran" youth.

[Celtics2021]

Your second proposal should exclude Grant, who is not eligible to be traded on draft night.  But 35 + Pritchard should probably move the C’s to the last couple of picks of the first round, and it’s what I’ve thought it the most likely trade.

Everyone on this board is obsessed with Trayce Jackson Davis, but I’d go with Rupert or Nnaji if either are on the board at the end of the first.  My guess is one will be.

[BASS_THUMPER]

Draft night for Celtics, what do you do?





*sippin*

[CFAN38]

CFAN mentioned it in another thread, but moving Pritchard & a future first round pick to Houston for #20 would be a pretty good move by my standard. As much as I enjoy putting together big trade packages, I don't see any happening with this group.

So, that leaves us with picks 20 and 35. I think we could nab two solid players at these spots.
 
20: Trayce Jackson-Davis. It might seem like a reach to pick him here, but I see no chance he falls to #35, and I think he can be a legit starter in the future. High-level athlete who uses that to real advantage both defensively and on the rebounds. He has a great second jump on rebounds, sort of like Timelord. He developed into a really good high-post playmaker, which is something we need to offset Horford's ageing. I could see him becoming a super damaging short roll player too. Good screener, rolls with speed and has the ability to finish at the rim, has a 7'1" wingspan, and he is smart on defence - barely fouls. I think he could be a bit like Draymond if he keeps developing, except he's bigger and worse at shooting 3s.

35: Keyontae Johnson. I should preface this by stating that I would only pick him if our medical staff are super comfortable with his heart condition. He is a physically imposing wing at 6'6" and 240lbs, with a 7' wingspan. He has a significant amount of offensive versatility, and at worst would be able to immediately provide what Grant does on offence. He's a good perimeter shooter, can draw fouls at a good level, and can bully smaller wings with ease. He is a very strong rebounder too, and loves to play a physical brand of ball.

We don't have too much to play with in free agency. I think Davison is still a year away, so I would look at Cory Joseph as a back-up PG. I trust Jackson-Davis to be able to contribute immediately, so much so that I would be comfortable not adding a big. With the team as below, I think running it back is fine. The coaching additions will help a lot. Give Brown his supermax, and if in 2 years the team has done nothing then ship him off.

Smart / Joseph
White / Brogdon
Brown / Hauser / Johnson
Tatum / Horford / Gallinari
Williams 3 / Jackson-Davis / Gallinari

As high as I am on TJD if the Cs can trade into the first round and are targeting a big I would love to see them land Leonard Miller. He is more of a project but could be special developing behind AL. His rebounding will translate from the G-League making that his calling card early in his career. Offensively he could be an elite grab and go big, defensively he is a work in progress but with an added 10-15lbs and refinement he could be really good.

[footey]

Givony on ESPN's latest mock draft has Celtics drafting Julian Philips of TN at 35.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDOK6PLxsA8

[SHAQATTACK]

Crack open an OL English 800 , n guzzle. 

[gouki88]

CFAN mentioned it in another thread, but moving Pritchard & a future first round pick to Houston for #20 would be a pretty good move by my standard. As much as I enjoy putting together big trade packages, I don't see any happening with this group.

So, that leaves us with picks 20 and 35. I think we could nab two solid players at these spots.
 
20: Trayce Jackson-Davis. It might seem like a reach to pick him here, but I see no chance he falls to #35, and I think he can be a legit starter in the future. High-level athlete who uses that to real advantage both defensively and on the rebounds. He has a great second jump on rebounds, sort of like Timelord. He developed into a really good high-post playmaker, which is something we need to offset Horford's ageing. I could see him becoming a super damaging short roll player too. Good screener, rolls with speed and has the ability to finish at the rim, has a 7'1" wingspan, and he is smart on defence - barely fouls. I think he could be a bit like Draymond if he keeps developing, except he's bigger and worse at shooting 3s.

35: Keyontae Johnson. I should preface this by stating that I would only pick him if our medical staff are super comfortable with his heart condition. He is a physically imposing wing at 6'6" and 240lbs, with a 7' wingspan. He has a significant amount of offensive versatility, and at worst would be able to immediately provide what Grant does on offence. He's a good perimeter shooter, can draw fouls at a good level, and can bully smaller wings with ease. He is a very strong rebounder too, and loves to play a physical brand of ball.

We don't have too much to play with in free agency. I think Davison is still a year away, so I would look at Cory Joseph as a back-up PG. I trust Jackson-Davis to be able to contribute immediately, so much so that I would be comfortable not adding a big. With the team as below, I think running it back is fine. The coaching additions will help a lot. Give Brown his supermax, and if in 2 years the team has done nothing then ship him off.

Smart / Joseph
White / Brogdon
Brown / Hauser / Johnson
Tatum / Horford / Gallinari
Williams 3 / Jackson-Davis / Gallinari

As high as I am on TJD if the Cs can trade into the first round and are targeting a big I would love to see them land Leonard Miller. He is more of a project but could be special developing behind AL. His rebounding will translate from the G-League making that his calling card early in his career. Offensively he could be an elite grab and go big, defensively he is a work in progress but with an added 10-15lbs and refinement he could be really good.

I actually agree, I just have no faith in GSW not picking him at 19! If he is available I would probably pick him (prefer TJD to Murray).

I get wanting Nnaji over TJD, he is an incredible athlete. 7' tall, 251lbs, 7'7" wingspan, and he is still 18 (!). I just want someone who can impact more immediately.

[boscel33]

It'll be a bad night if the C's sit pat and only draft at 35.

[SHAQATTACK]

Fire Joe ….always

[footey]

Boston Globe reports that Celtics trying to trade Pritchard for a first round pick to get a power forward.  Not sure if that would require them to package him with 35. I would think so. 

I'm pretty skeptical of teams trying to move into the 1st round, especially the Celtics.  Danny always seemed unable to get there.

Who might they be targeting there? Assuming late first round.  (I don't have link; paywall)

[green_bballers13]

Fire Joe ….always

That's not happening tomorrow night you silly goose.

I want a big man. I think we need to replace Grant Williams and Al Horford. I'm good with any of the players that fit that mold.

If we're making fireworks, I want Scoot for Jaylen.