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Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« on: June 17, 2023, 07:19:59 PM »

Offline Ed Monix

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Celtics: Carter Jr, Nesmith, Dunn, 2023 76ers 28th pick (via Jazz)

Jazz: Prichard, Hauser

Magic: Brogdon

Pacers: Williams (S + T), Muscala

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Nesmith
Tatum
Horford


White, Gallinari, Carter Jr, Williams III, Dunn, Kornet, 2023 28th pick
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2023, 07:48:13 PM »

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I like Carter Jr, but why would Orlando want Brogdon? They are going through a rebuild. Also, why/how is Nesmith starting?
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2023, 07:56:52 PM »

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Terrible for Utah
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2023, 08:00:38 PM »

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Celtics trade:  Brogdon, Pritchard, Hauser, Grant, Muscala

Celtics receive: Carter Jr, Nesmith, Dunn, 2023 76ers 28th pick (via Jazz)

Jazz trade:  28th pick, Dunn

Jazz receive: Pritchard, Hauser

Magic receive:  Brogdon

Magic trade: Carter, Jr.

Pacers trade:  Nesmith

Pacers receive: Williams (S + T), Muscala
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2023, 08:09:59 PM »

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Quote from: Goldstar88 on June 17, 2023, 07:48:13 PM
I like Carter Jr, but why would Orlando want Brogdon? They are going through a rebuild. Also, why/how is Nesmith starting?

Apparently the Magic want to start competing from next season, they are going after VanVleet too.

Brodgon fits nicely next to Fultz and adds some veteran leadership they’ve been lacking for some years.

I started Nesmith because he suits Mazzulla’s philosophy & doesn’t detract from Brown & Tatum. Plus IMO, White is better as a Ginobili style 6th man.
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2023, 08:14:20 PM »

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Quote from: Ed Monix on June 17, 2023, 08:09:59 PM
Quote from: Goldstar88 on June 17, 2023, 07:48:13 PM
I like Carter Jr, but why would Orlando want Brogdon? They are going through a rebuild. Also, why/how is Nesmith starting?

Apparently the Magic want to start competing from next season, they are going after VanVleet too.

Brodgon fits nicely next to Fultz and adds some veteran leadership they’ve been lacking for some years.

I started Nesmith because he suits Mazzulla’s philosophy & doesn’t detract from Brown & Tatum. Plus IMO, White is better as a Ginobili style 6th man.

Gotcha. TP for the explanation.
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2023, 08:16:03 PM »

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Quote from: hardlyyardley on June 17, 2023, 07:56:52 PM
Terrible for Utah

Why???

They found 29 year old Dunn off the G-League scrap heap & he’s on an expiring deal.

In this upcoming draft they already have the 9th & 16th pick. The pick the Jazz are giving up is only three spots from the second round.

Prichard & Hauser fit the Jazz’s timeline, playing style, and obviously Ainge is a Prichard fan.



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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2023, 08:19:23 PM »

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Quote from: Goldstar88 on June 17, 2023, 08:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ed Monix on June 17, 2023, 08:09:59 PM
Quote from: Goldstar88 on June 17, 2023, 07:48:13 PM
I like Carter Jr, but why would Orlando want Brogdon? They are going through a rebuild. Also, why/how is Nesmith starting?

Apparently the Magic want to start competing from next season, they are going after VanVleet too.

Brodgon fits nicely next to Fultz and adds some veteran leadership they’ve been lacking for some years.

I started Nesmith because he suits Mazzulla’s philosophy & doesn’t detract from Brown & Tatum. Plus IMO, White is better as a Ginobili style 6th man.

Gotcha. TP for the explanation.

No problem at all.

Thanks for the TP!
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2023, 06:49:20 AM »

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Where is this idea to trade away Malcolm Brogdon coming from, both in the CS forum and among the media ?

We were so happy to acquire him last summer and he fulfilled his responsibilities quite well, I thought. He and White have brought ball movement and offensive decision-making to this team, which was badly needed what with Al Horford being the only other consistent facilitator on the roster. The core of Smart-Brown-Tatum needs playmakers to succeed and Brogdon is that. Plus he appears to be a solid team-first guy who brings a great attitude to the locker room. Celts need more guys like him, maybe in the form of a veteran post player, not less.
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2023, 06:53:38 AM »

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Quote from: tenn_smoothie on June 18, 2023, 06:49:20 AM
Where is this idea to trade away Malcolm Brogdon coming from, both in the CS forum and among the media ?

We were so happy to acquire him last summer and he fulfilled his responsibilities quite well, I thought. He and White have brought ball movement and offensive decision-making to this team, which was badly needed what with Al Horford being the only other consistent facilitator on the roster. The core of Smart-Brown-Tatum needs playmakers to succeed and Brogdon is that. Plus he appears to be a solid team-first guy who brings a great attitude to the locker room. Celts need more guys like him, maybe in the form of a veteran post player, not less.
I rather have Brogdon than Smart & White
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2023, 07:51:19 AM »

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Quote from: tenn_smoothie on June 18, 2023, 06:49:20 AM
Where is this idea to trade away Malcolm Brogdon coming from, both in the CS forum and among the media ?

We were so happy to acquire him last summer and he fulfilled his responsibilities quite well, I thought. He and White have brought ball movement and offensive decision-making to this team, which was badly needed what with Al Horford being the only other consistent facilitator on the roster. The core of Smart-Brown-Tatum needs playmakers to succeed and Brogdon is that. Plus he appears to be a solid team-first guy who brings a great attitude to the locker room. Celts need more guys like him, maybe in the form of a veteran post player, not less.
It is a money deal. The new CBA is forcing the Celtics hand. Either this year or next players are going to have to be let go due to salary reasons. Plus the Celtics desperately need front court help and have an excess of guards. One guard is going to get traded this off-season, might as well be Brogdon since he makes the most money.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2023, 08:11:59 AM »

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Quote from: Ed Monix on June 17, 2023, 07:19:59 PM
Celtics: Carter Jr, Nesmith, Dunn, 2023 76ers 28th pick (via Jazz)

Jazz: Prichard, Hauser

Magic: Brogdon

Pacers: Williams (S + T), Muscala

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Boston Celtics

Smart
Brown
Nesmith
Tatum
Horford


White, Gallinari, Carter Jr, Williams III, Dunn, Kornet, 2023 28th pick
So essentially Carter Jr. replaces Grant on the bench, and C's have a starting lineup they could have had 3 years ago.
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Re: Trade Idea: Retooling Celtics
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2023, 09:04:37 AM »

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So essentially Carter Jr. replaces Grant on the bench, and C's have a starting lineup they could have had 3 years ago.

 I think he would start.  He is better than AL at this point.   
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