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Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« on: June 02, 2023, 12:35:39 PM »

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JUST IN: Frank Vogel is finalizing a deal to become the new head coach of the Phoenix Suns, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

Better find some other veteran assistants for Mazzulla
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Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2023, 12:37:57 PM »

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I think he's a good coach.  I would have loved to see him on our bench.


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Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2023, 12:48:38 PM »

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Was hoping he'd go to our bench. Still some good coaches out there though. Monty wliams, Mike Bud. If they don't get head coaching jobs

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2023, 12:51:55 PM »

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Was hoping he'd go to our bench. Still some good coaches out there though. Monty wliams, Mike Bud. If they don't get head coaching jobs
Monty Williams got the Pistons HC job. 

Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2023, 01:03:34 PM »

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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.
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Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2023, 01:42:40 PM »

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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.

If they can't find a head coaching job why not? Possibly rebuild their value and if Celtics win a championship and improve can take credit and get a job the following year

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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.

If they can't find a head coaching job why not? Possibly rebuild their value and if Celtics win a championship and improve can take credit and get a job the following year

Probably be well-paid assistant and for a host of practical reasons might consider it.  Talented team, mentor a young HC, a lot of influence with less responsibility, building block to next HC gig….

Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2023, 02:06:25 PM »

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If Wyc and Brad weren’t so delusional, Vogel should have been our head coach.

You watch Vogel turn them from a bottom six ranked defence into an elite defensive unit.

Luckily we have Mazzulla. He’s the man who turned the Celtics defence from third best in the league, into the eighth.

These guys have broken me with their stupidity.

It’s got to the point where I don’t want to talk about the team on here because it’s too upsetting.
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Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2023, 02:07:30 PM »

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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.

If they can't find a head coaching job why not? Possibly rebuild their value and if Celtics win a championship and improve can take credit and get a job the following year

Probably be well-paid assistant and for a host of practical reasons might consider it.  Talented team, mentor a young HC, a lot of influence with less responsibility, building block to next HC gig….

Exactly. There are only a certain amount of head coaching spots available. We've seen guys who've had success as head coaches (Mike D'Antoni, Mike Brown, Kenny Atkinson) go back to assistant roles.
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Re: Shams: Vogel To Become Suns New Head Coach
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2023, 02:07:47 PM »

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So unless Toronto hires him, where is Doc going lol?
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2023, 02:14:05 PM »

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So unless Toronto hires him, where is Doc going lol?

Back to ESPN for analysis.
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2023, 02:53:01 PM »

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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.

If they can't find a head coaching job why not? Possibly rebuild their value and if Celtics win a championship and improve can take credit and get a job the following year

Probably be well-paid assistant and for a host of practical reasons might consider it.  Talented team, mentor a young HC, a lot of influence with less responsibility, building block to next HC gig….

Exactly. There are only a certain amount of head coaching spots available. We've seen guys who've had success as head coaches (Mike D'Antoni, Mike Brown, Kenny Atkinson) go back to assistant roles.
but generally not under an unproven young coach.
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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.

If they can't find a head coaching job why not? Possibly rebuild their value and if Celtics win a championship and improve can take credit and get a job the following year

Probably be well-paid assistant and for a host of practical reasons might consider it.  Talented team, mentor a young HC, a lot of influence with less responsibility, building block to next HC gig….

Exactly. There are only a certain amount of head coaching spots available. We've seen guys who've had success as head coaches (Mike D'Antoni, Mike Brown, Kenny Atkinson) go back to assistant roles.
but generally not under an unproven young coach.
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It’s looking more and more like Stephen Silas is gonna be our guy.

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I never understood the idea that Frank Vogel or Bud would sign on to become an assistant coach under clueless 34 year old 2nd Row Joe. The idea that a championship winning head coach in his 50s or 60s would take this assignment always seemed laughable to me.

If they can't find a head coaching job why not? Possibly rebuild their value and if Celtics win a championship and improve can take credit and get a job the following year

Probably be well-paid assistant and for a host of practical reasons might consider it.  Talented team, mentor a young HC, a lot of influence with less responsibility, building block to next HC gig….

Exactly. There are only a certain amount of head coaching spots available. We've seen guys who've had success as head coaches (Mike D'Antoni, Mike Brown, Kenny Atkinson) go back to assistant roles.
but generally not under an unproven young coach.

I get that former head coaches will do it, but people throwing out that older head coaches that won titles in the past 3 years would work under a guy like Joe just seemed strange to me.
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