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Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« on: June 01, 2023, 03:07:46 PM »

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Brad Stevens just announce that Joe Mazzulla will return for 2023-24 season, so there’s that
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2023, 03:13:28 PM »

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who knows. maybe brown and mazz and smart will get it when they turn 40!

i am done with brad. complete buffoon.

shoulda kept mazz on a temp basis and fired after last game. no let's make a dumb panic hire of a trash coach. we had nurse available.  unfrickingbelievable. zero self awareness in that building.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2023, 04:29:32 PM »

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Wow, when does Tatum demand a trade?

Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 04:33:33 PM »

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Wow, when does Tatum demand a trade?

yeah if i am him i am outta here. dont want a clown coaching me. he might be fine with it. no accountability or responsibility. just jack step back threes in iso. mazz wants all threes. no balance. shot way more than brad did. stats were posted. more than  ime. that #2 d ranking is fools gold. we saw that in the playoffs. it was exposed. mazz is all offense. middle school offense at that.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2023, 04:50:37 PM »

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Wow, when does Tatum demand a trade?

yeah if i am him i am outta here. dont want a clown coaching me. he might be fine with it. no accountability or responsibility. just jack step back threes in iso. mazz wants all threes. no balance. shot way more than brad did. stats were posted. more than  ime. that #2 d ranking is fools gold. we saw that in the playoffs. it was exposed. mazz is all offense. middle school offense at that.

Umm you guys do realize Mazzulla IS Tatum's guy, right?  :P

It's been well-documented. Probably also a reason they were okay in giving Mazzulla the job after Ime's incident.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2023, 05:09:06 PM »

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Let Tatum have his coach and watch them lose again next year.  I won't be watching.

Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2023, 05:24:10 PM »

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Wow, when does Tatum demand a trade?

yeah if i am him i am outta here. dont want a clown coaching me. he might be fine with it. no accountability or responsibility. just jack step back threes in iso. mazz wants all threes. no balance. shot way more than brad did. stats were posted. more than  ime. that #2 d ranking is fools gold. we saw that in the playoffs. it was exposed. mazz is all offense. middle school offense at that.

Umm you guys do realize Mazzulla IS Tatum's guy, right?  :P

It's been well-documented. Probably also a reason they were okay in giving Mazzulla the job after Ime's incident.

Well, guess that would mean Brown gets supermax as well. Will make our offseason quieter for sure.

Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2023, 05:25:37 PM »

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I'm disappointed but I try to be hopeful even in the face of evidence that hope may be less than wise.   It's just that I get nothing out of the negativity and this is about entertainment (for me).

I have big doubts about Mazzulla but I do have trust in Brad.  I think Brad is smart and I also think he knows a whole lot more about the current situation than I do.   He sees something in Mazz that makes him think he'll be better in Year 2.  OK -- I guess we'll see.   I hope they'll get serious about better utilizing their talent on offense (not the 3 or die mentality), and of course I hope they'll address the mental let-downs this team obviously has.

But since the die has been cast, I'll hope that a 34-year old rookie HC can be better. 

And yes -- I'm on board with a couple team/roster things:
1. EXPERIENCED assistant coaches who can balance their roles well -- not overpower Joe but be influential with players and mentors for Joe.  It's not ideal -- but it's reality... he's 34.
2. Player trades.  Unlike others here who have JB at the top of their list, the top of mine is Smart.  I've loved the guy and been irritated by him alternately throughout the years.  I think his mentality changes throughout games and sometimes he's the guy I want on the court -- other times, he's careless, cocky, fires unlikely threes, thinks he's a 1st/2nd scoring option -- and like others does not push the pace when we need to sustain the energy and finish off a team.  I like the guy but I want a better general.  That general might be DWhite - I'm not sure.    Anyway, I think dynamics shift with a Smart trade. 

Re: JB I'd be interested in what the could get for him -- but I'm not on-board without a really strong return.  I do agree with others that the roster could be better balanced, but I see JB as a tremendously talented player who is one improvable flaw away from being a top 10 player in the league.   He works butt off every off-season and I believe in the guy.  No knee-jerk trade for JB IMO (I realize that becomes moot if he signs super max, which I'm guessing will happen).

We get Gallinari which is basically a pickup for next year.   I'd push for a big given Al's age, Rob's frailty, and the likelihood Grant is gone for too much $$.   Trade assets are there if Brad dares:  Smart, Malcolm, Galo, Pritchard, Sam, Rob, Grant (S&T if that's possible).   I'd hate to trade White, but again depends on return.

 
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2023, 05:27:08 PM »

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Wow, when does Tatum demand a trade?

yeah if i am him i am outta here. dont want a clown coaching me. he might be fine with it. no accountability or responsibility. just jack step back threes in iso. mazz wants all threes. no balance. shot way more than brad did. stats were posted. more than  ime. that #2 d ranking is fools gold. we saw that in the playoffs. it was exposed. mazz is all offense. middle school offense at that.

Umm you guys do realize Mazzulla IS Tatum's guy, right?  :P

It's been well-documented. Probably also a reason they were okay in giving Mazzulla the job after Ime's incident.
Besides Tatum saying Ime was his favourite coach, then yeah.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2023, 05:30:02 PM »

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Maybe we can get an experienced championship coach or two to sit on the bench beside the 34 year old cheerleader. Wyc is always saving the bucks and short-handing our team.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2023, 05:34:15 PM »

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Brad Stevens just announce that Joe Mazzulla will return for 2023-24 season, so there’s that

Awful, awful decision.  Wasting this window.


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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2023, 05:50:37 PM »

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I really don’t get it at all. How could you watch this postseason of nonstop coaching blunders and bring this guy back?

Bucks lose to an 8 seed with a coach who won them a championship and he’s fired?

But our rookie deer in the headlights coach loses to an 8th seed and 2 days later gets told he’s coming back??
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2023, 05:52:51 PM »

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I fully expected this, but I think it's a mistake to bring Joe back. But before I explain that opinion, I want to first say that, in a way, I feel bad for Joe, because he was placed in a very difficult position thanks to Ime's ill-fated decision. And it wasn't Joe's fault that a couple assistants left for other teams, or that Brad failed to give him any additional assistants to replace the departures.

That said, I still think it's a bad idea to extend Joe, primarily because, as others have said, he had zero previous NBA head-coaching experience, and he had no coaching experience that was even close to being NBA-level (D2 was his highest, I believe). Also, even though Boston is still a relatively young team, it's not a team of first-, second-, or even third-year guys who are fairly new to the NBA; it's a team of young veterans who have been through several Eastern Conference Finals and one NBA Finals, so to give them a greenhorn coach who has a LOT to learn and faces a steep learning curve will, IMO, set this team back a couple years as they wait for Joe to catch up. And that's if he even has NBA head-coaching chops and does eventually catch up.

Then again, it seems like Wyc and Brad, and quite a few fans as well, don't even expect the Celtics to win a title for at least another couple of years, so I guess they're not in a hurry for Joe to catch up. But in my view, that's just wasting a couple of years of Tatum and Brown's youth. So the Cs will probably be in the ECF again next season, just because of their talent level, but that might (once again) be as far as they go.

I believe that Brad and Joe and everyone else involved wants to win titles, but I also get the impression from them that they're like, "Yeah, we want titles, but what we care most about is putting a good product on the floor and creating a pleasant atmosphere for our players and fans ... and if we happen to win any titles, that's great too."

And my response to that is: All of that stuff is well and good ... as far as it goes. I want the players and the fans to have a pleasant experience, and I obviously prefer having good teams to cheer for as opposed to bad teams, but what I want most, as a fan, is titles. Banners. To officially move back ahead of the hated Lakers in the title race (although I already consider the Celtics to be ahead of the Lakers in title count, but that's another kettle of fish).

Some people talk about process, and things taking time, and there's a lot of truth to that, but this team needs to grow beyond being a team that just gets to the ECF (and a one-off NBA Finals loss). I know, I'm just an entitled fan. I get it. But this is the Boston Celtics, for Pete's sake. Since the last Bird title ('86), the Celtics have 1 championship ... and the Lakers have 8. EIGHT. I get that L.A. is a more attractive locale than Boston to many people, but please find a way to correct this injustice.

TL;DR: Sooo ... maybe by 2028 the Jays and Joe will have the maturity and experience to finally bring home a title?
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Re: Joe Mazzulla returning for 2023-24 season
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2023, 05:53:07 PM »

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It's a shame because I thought Brad did a good job with the roster after he took over for Danny.  The downfall of course is the Mazzulla decision, which was inexplicable.  Wasted one year.  And now potentially another one, unless Mazzulla somehow figures out how to coach at a basic level.