We need a coach that will use our depth:

[liam]

We need a coach that will use our depth. All of our main guys were banged up and injured by the time we played the last game. Brogdon/arm, Brown/Elbow/cheekbone, Tatum/wrist/ankle, Smart/back leg, Horford/old... We need to play 10 guys during the regular season and at least 8 deep for the playoffs. We should've been getting guys' minutes in that Atlanta series. If you go up big you don't keep running the starters until they are gassed and the lead is gone. If the Heat can play Robinson we should've been able to play Hauser. If Spo was our coach deep bench guys could've played key roles.

[kraidstar]

We need a coach that will use our depth. All of our main guys were banged up and injured by the time we played the last game. Brogdon/arm, Brown/Elbow/cheekbone, Tatum/wrist/ankle, Smart/back leg, Horford/old... We need to play 10 guys during the regular season and at least 8 deep for the playoffs. We should've been getting guys' minutes in that Atlanta series. If you go up big you don't keep running the starters until they are gassed and the lead is gone. If the Heat can play Robinson we should've been able to play Hauser. If Spo was our coach deep bench guys could've played key roles.

I agree that our deep bench guys would be more ready and more empowered by Spoelstra.

The "Heat Culture" thing does seem to be real. And it starts with Pat Riley.

[liam]

We need a coach that will use our depth. All of our main guys were banged up and injured by the time we played the last game. Brogdon/arm, Brown/Elbow/cheekbone, Tatum/wrist/ankle, Smart/back leg, Horford/old... We need to play 10 guys during the regular season and at least 8 deep for the playoffs. We should've been getting guys' minutes in that Atlanta series. If you go up big you don't keep running the starters until they are gassed and the lead is gone. If the Heat can play Robinson we should've been able to play Hauser. If Spo was our coach deep bench guys could've played key roles.

I agree that our deep bench guys would be more ready and more empowered by Spoelstra.

The "Heat Culture" thing does seem to be real. And it starts with Pat Riley.

We need a coach/coaching staff that will get the best out of the whole roster. Anyone can just throughout the 7 best players and hope for the best. When your team can't make a shot you send out shooters. When you can't get a rebound you put in rebounders. It's a waste of time and energy to have Jaylen or Jason bringing the ball up. We have ball handlers that can bring the ball up. Positionless Basketball is great but there are reasons to have positions.

[Kernewek]

We need a coach that will use our depth. All of our main guys were banged up and injured by the time we played the last game. Brogdon/arm, Brown/Elbow/cheekbone, Tatum/wrist/ankle, Smart/back leg, Horford/old... We need to play 10 guys during the regular season and at least 8 deep for the playoffs. We should've been getting guys' minutes in that Atlanta series. If you go up big you don't keep running the starters until they are gassed and the lead is gone. If the Heat can play Robinson we should've been able to play Hauser. If Spo was our coach deep bench guys could've played key roles.

I agree that our deep bench guys would be more ready and more empowered by Spoelstra.

The "Heat Culture" thing does seem to be real. And it starts with Pat Riley.

I said this in another thread, I think, but the Heat's bench is essentially built on redundancy at each position. Their guys are expected to come in and do exactly what the guy in front of them on the depth chart does, and to do it no matter what playing time they're getting.

The Celtics... don't really have that across the board. Arguably we could have it with Tatum & Brown, Horford and G.Williams, and Smart & White (it's a reach, but bear with me). The problem is that five of those guys are your regular starters, so necessarily they're not coming off the bench for each other: do you really want Brown and Smart, for example, coming off the bench for White and Tatum? Can those guys handle that? Maybe not.

[scaryjerry]

Our “deep bench” was over stated all year

The grant Williams benching in spots all year was bizarre but other then that no one on that bench that didn’t play deserved to play other then maybe Pritchard because he proved he could have impact in last years playoffs.

[angryguy77]

Our “deep bench” was over stated all year

The grant Williams benching in spots all year was bizarre but other then that no one on that bench that didn’t play deserved to play other then maybe Pritchard because he proved he could have impact in last years playoffs.

Brogdon on one arm was more worthy than Hauser?

Come on, you're taking this defense of Joe to an extreme.

[Roy H.]

Agreed.  It was my biggest qualm with Ime, but with him there was very little quality depth left after the trade deadline.  With Joe, we have legit NBA guys who could play.  Hauser, Muscula, Pritchard, even Grant was outside of the rotation for much of the playoffs.

It's a failing.  It burns out the top-8, and if the top guys aren't performing (for instance, playing with a torn tendon in their shooting elbow), then nobody is ready to take their place.

[smokeablount]

We need a coach that will use our depth. All of our main guys were banged up and injured by the time we played the last game. Brogdon/arm, Brown/Elbow/cheekbone, Tatum/wrist/ankle, Smart/back leg, Horford/old... We need to play 10 guys during the regular season and at least 8 deep for the playoffs. We should've been getting guys' minutes in that Atlanta series. If you go up big you don't keep running the starters until they are gassed and the lead is gone. If the Heat can play Robinson we should've been able to play Hauser. If Spo was our coach deep bench guys could've played key roles.

I agree that our deep bench guys would be more ready and more empowered by Spoelstra.

The "Heat Culture" thing does seem to be real. And it starts with Pat Riley.

I said this in another thread, I think, but the Heat's bench is essentially built on redundancy at each position. Their guys are expected to come in and do exactly what the guy in front of them on the depth chart does, and to do it no matter what playing time they're getting.

The Celtics... don't really have that across the board. Arguably we could have it with Tatum & Brown, Horford and G.Williams, and Smart & White (it's a reach, but bear with me). The problem is that five of those guys are your regular starters, so necessarily they're not coming off the bench for each other: do you really want Brown and Smart, for example, coming off the bench for White and Tatum? Can those guys handle that? Maybe not.

Which is why when I went on record for drafting Rob Williams and then Mitchell Robinson fell to the second round, I wanted to trade a future pick to acquire him. This idea got panned. Same with trading Rozier, Morris and draft capital for the draft rights to Wendell Carter aka Baby Horford. People loved Bamba. I need to better promote “Smokeablount Culture.”

[Kernewek]

I need to better promote “Smokeablount Culture.”

Bah Gawd, That's Paul Pierce's Music!

[Indocelts]

I honestly believe we do have a deep bench. Remember that we almost beat the Warriors  with 4 (5?) starters out. Maybe a little thin at the center position, but overall, I think our bench is better than many other team's bench.

Sadly, Joe just doesn"t trust them.

[scaryjerry]

Our “deep bench” was over stated all year

The grant Williams benching in spots all year was bizarre but other then that no one on that bench that didn’t play deserved to play other then maybe Pritchard because he proved he could have impact in last years playoffs.

Brogdon on one arm was more worthy than Hauser?

Come on, you're taking this defense of Joe to an extreme.

You come off as a giant homer begging for playoff minutes from Sam hauser, sorry.

I’m not even meaning to defend Joe, I wouldn’t care if he was fired yesterday, he made countless stupid decisions but the Celtics fans calling for the end of the bench scrubs to get anything other then mop up duty playoff minutes are delusional

[Kuberski33]

Agreed.  It was my biggest qualm with Ime, but with him there was very little quality depth left after the trade deadline.  With Joe, we have legit NBA guys who could play.  Hauser, Muscula, Pritchard, even Grant was outside of the rotation for much of the playoffs.

It's a failing.  It burns out the top-8, and if the top guys aren't performing (for instance, playing with a torn tendon in their shooting elbow), then nobody is ready to take their place.

To me this is his single biggest failing as a coach. Keep in mind that if Jaylen gets a max extension, their ability to improve the team will be significantly limited. That means they'll need a coach who can develop talent.

Joe won't even use his available bench guys who have proven they can play in the league. Do we really think he'll be able to turn an end-of-roster guy with one NBA skill into a contributor? Based on this past season - no way.

[liam]

Our “deep bench” was over stated all year

The grant Williams benching in spots all year was bizarre but other then that no one on that bench that didn’t play deserved to play other then maybe Pritchard because he proved he could have impact in last years playoffs.

Brogdon on one arm was more worthy than Hauser?

Come on, you're taking this defense of Joe to an extreme.

You come off as a giant homer begging for playoff minutes from Sam hauser, sorry.

I’m not even meaning to defend Joe, I wouldn’t care if he was fired yesterday, he made countless stupid decisions but the Celtics fans calling for the end of the bench scrubs to get anything other then mop up duty playoff minutes are delusional

Heat just showed us that you can win with late picks and undrafted players. It's delusional that you think you can win playing 7-8 guys all year.

[liam]

Our “deep bench” was over stated all year

The grant Williams benching in spots all year was bizarre but other then that no one on that bench that didn’t play deserved to play other then maybe Pritchard because he proved he could have impact in last years playoffs.

Brogdon on one arm was more worthy than Hauser?

Come on, you're taking this defense of Joe to an extreme.

You come off as a giant homer begging for playoff minutes from Sam hauser, sorry.

I’m not even meaning to defend Joe, I wouldn’t care if he was fired yesterday, he made countless stupid decisions but the Celtics fans calling for the end of the bench scrubs to get anything other then mop up duty playoff minutes are delusional

Brogdon gave us nothing. I don't think it's delusional to think that Hauser would've given us more than that.

[scaryjerry]

Our “deep bench” was over stated all year

The grant Williams benching in spots all year was bizarre but other then that no one on that bench that didn’t play deserved to play other then maybe Pritchard because he proved he could have impact in last years playoffs.

Brogdon on one arm was more worthy than Hauser?

Come on, you're taking this defense of Joe to an extreme.

You come off as a giant homer begging for playoff minutes from Sam hauser, sorry.

I’m not even meaning to defend Joe, I wouldn’t care if he was fired yesterday, he made countless stupid decisions but the Celtics fans calling for the end of the bench scrubs to get anything other then mop up duty playoff minutes are delusional

Brogdon gave us nothing. I don't think it's delusional to think that Hauser would've given us more than that.

I think playing Brogdon was the worst coaching decision I saw all year so can’t really argue, in general the obsession with end of bench actual scrubs that a lot of Celtics fans have is still delusional.