JB in a nutshell…

[Mahk E Mahk]

Actually bud I do think it was a garbage shot…mostly because he missed.

I understand his thought process trying to move quick and attack quick with a lead in the 4th quarter because they’ve lost several games slowing the pace of the game down in those scenarios

the distinction between good shots and garbage shots is not based on whether they’re made or missed. if jaylen had miraculously made his i’ll-advised 1-on-5 shot last night, it’s still a garbage shot. anyone with a modicum of BBIQ would advise advise against him taking this shot, as it has a very low likelihood of repeated success, i.e. a garbage shot.

It was bad. Have the Celtics not lost several games this postseason when they had a lead deep into the 4th quarter because they just stopped pushing the ball and being aggressive?
I think that’s what he was thinking of. Came back to bite him unfortunately.

the C’s are losing leads/games late in the 4Q because tatum assumes the PG role, and opposing teams appropriately double team him as soon as he crosses mid-court. the lack of response to this defensive strategy is why teams frequently make huge runs in crunch time.

to your point, pushing the pace could work, but definitely not via JB, a really poor ball handler, attacking the entire defense by himself in 1-on-5 scenarios.

Maybe you’re not understanding the fact that we are in agreement. It was a poor decision and a bad shot. Yes. Should’ve kicked it to one of the open 3 point shooters. Simply stating I understand his aggressive mindset, just made the wrong play.

we’re not in agreement and it’s an important distinction. jb’s 1-on-5 shot wasn’t garbage ”mostly because he missed.” it was a garbage shot because it was an incredibly stupid, low BBIQ, selfish, hero ball shot with virtually zero chance of success, and not a shot one would ever advise any player to take, especially in ECF crunch time when the game is close and will likely be decided by a possession or two.

[keevsnick]

I really feel this one play illustrates his greatest strength (athleticism) and greatest weakness (low BBIQ).

How do you go 1 on 5 here? 

He lacks situational awareness and low IQ.  At this point, will he ever figure it out?

https://twitter.com/anotherftbacct/status/1659766350712287232?s=42&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ

He was an All-Star and ALL-NBA second team this year. HE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT.

[Who]

Jaylen is Rolando Blackman. Not Clyde Drexler.

[gouki88]

And that is why I hope we trade him! The Lillard ship seems to have fully sailed sadly, but there would be good packages out there I’m sure.

Give Houston their young star, give us Sengun, Green and Eason

[Dchuck]

I really feel this one play illustrates his greatest strength (athleticism) and greatest weakness (low BBIQ).

How do you go 1 on 5 here? 

He lacks situational awareness and low IQ.  At this point, will he ever figure it out?

https://twitter.com/anotherftbacct/status/1659766350712287232?s=42&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ

He was an All-Star and ALL-NBA second team this year. HE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT.

The accolades you’re refferring to are nice.  It’s a great INDIVIDUAL achievement and will certainly allow him to get paid handsomely.  I’m not trying to dismiss that.

I’m referring to him figuring out how to play winning basketball, making winning plays, making his teammates better.

[Celtic_Pride777]

I really feel this one play illustrates his greatest strength (athleticism) and greatest weakness (low BBIQ).

How do you go 1 on 5 here? 

He lacks situational awareness and low IQ.  At this point, will he ever figure it out?

https://twitter.com/anotherftbacct/status/1659766350712287232?s=42&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ

It's been seven years and he still makes these mistakes. He's not a supermax player, but he's getting one anyway.

[radiohead]

I really feel this one play illustrates his greatest strength (athleticism) and greatest weakness (low BBIQ).

How do you go 1 on 5 here? 

He lacks situational awareness and low IQ.  At this point, will he ever figure it out?

https://twitter.com/anotherftbacct/status/1659766350712287232?s=42&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ

Brogdon had a very similar play when he drove against 3 or 4 defenders on one transition play. It seems like it’s a team memo - run and attack in transition no matter what.

[scaryjerry]

Actually bud I do think it was a garbage shot…mostly because he missed.

I understand his thought process trying to move quick and attack quick with a lead in the 4th quarter because they’ve lost several games slowing the pace of the game down in those scenarios

the distinction between good shots and garbage shots is not based on whether they’re made or missed. if jaylen had miraculously made his i’ll-advised 1-on-5 shot last night, it’s still a garbage shot. anyone with a modicum of BBIQ would advise advise against him taking this shot, as it has a very low likelihood of repeated success, i.e. a garbage shot.

It was bad. Have the Celtics not lost several games this postseason when they had a lead deep into the 4th quarter because they just stopped pushing the ball and being aggressive?
I think that’s what he was thinking of. Came back to bite him unfortunately.

the C’s are losing leads/games late in the 4Q because tatum assumes the PG role, and opposing teams appropriately double team him as soon as he crosses mid-court. the lack of response to this defensive strategy is why teams frequently make huge runs in crunch time.

to your point, pushing the pace could work, but definitely not via JB, a really poor ball handler, attacking the entire defense by himself in 1-on-5 scenarios.

Maybe you’re not understanding the fact that we are in agreement. It was a poor decision and a bad shot. Yes. Should’ve kicked it to one of the open 3 point shooters. Simply stating I understand his aggressive mindset, just made the wrong play.

we’re not in agreement and it’s an important distinction. jb’s 1-on-5 shot wasn’t garbage ”mostly because he missed.” it was a garbage shot because it was an incredibly stupid, low BBIQ, selfish, hero ball shot with virtually zero chance of success, and not a shot one would ever advise any player to take, especially in ECF crunch time when the game is close and will likely be decided by a possession or two.

You’re a clown.

It was a bad shot. Good nba players take bad shots all the time, literally constantly. If they go in, they’re praised.
He was trying to be aggressive. Too aggressive. Should’ve kicked it out for 3. Wouldn’t be having this conversation if he made the shot.

[iadera]

We have too many players taking bad shots. JB and Smart. Too much for a contender...

[tenn_smoothie]

It's simple. Jaylen Brown is a very talented athlete who is a very dumb basketball player.

[Mahk E Mahk]

Actually bud I do think it was a garbage shot…mostly because he missed.

I understand his thought process trying to move quick and attack quick with a lead in the 4th quarter because they’ve lost several games slowing the pace of the game down in those scenarios

the distinction between good shots and garbage shots is not based on whether they’re made or missed. if jaylen had miraculously made his i’ll-advised 1-on-5 shot last night, it’s still a garbage shot. anyone with a modicum of BBIQ would advise advise against him taking this shot, as it has a very low likelihood of repeated success, i.e. a garbage shot.

It was bad. Have the Celtics not lost several games this postseason when they had a lead deep into the 4th quarter because they just stopped pushing the ball and being aggressive?
I think that’s what he was thinking of. Came back to bite him unfortunately.

the C’s are losing leads/games late in the 4Q because tatum assumes the PG role, and opposing teams appropriately double team him as soon as he crosses mid-court. the lack of response to this defensive strategy is why teams frequently make huge runs in crunch time.

to your point, pushing the pace could work, but definitely not via JB, a really poor ball handler, attacking the entire defense by himself in 1-on-5 scenarios.

Maybe you’re not understanding the fact that we are in agreement. It was a poor decision and a bad shot. Yes. Should’ve kicked it to one of the open 3 point shooters. Simply stating I understand his aggressive mindset, just made the wrong play.

we’re not in agreement and it’s an important distinction. jb’s 1-on-5 shot wasn’t garbage ”mostly because he missed.” it was a garbage shot because it was an incredibly stupid, low BBIQ, selfish, hero ball shot with virtually zero chance of success, and not a shot one would ever advise any player to take, especially in ECF crunch time when the game is close and will likely be decided by a possession or two.

You’re a clown.

It was a bad shot. Good nba players take bad shots all the time, literally constantly. If they go in, they’re praised.
He was trying to be aggressive. Too aggressive. Should’ve kicked it out for 3. Wouldn’t be having this conversation if he made the shot.

yeah, nba players go 1-on-5 all the time. 

i thought i was having a discussion with someone who understands the game. my mistake.

[scaryjerry]

Actually bud I do think it was a garbage shot…mostly because he missed.

I understand his thought process trying to move quick and attack quick with a lead in the 4th quarter because they’ve lost several games slowing the pace of the game down in those scenarios

the distinction between good shots and garbage shots is not based on whether they’re made or missed. if jaylen had miraculously made his i’ll-advised 1-on-5 shot last night, it’s still a garbage shot. anyone with a modicum of BBIQ would advise advise against him taking this shot, as it has a very low likelihood of repeated success, i.e. a garbage shot.

It was bad. Have the Celtics not lost several games this postseason when they had a lead deep into the 4th quarter because they just stopped pushing the ball and being aggressive?
I think that’s what he was thinking of. Came back to bite him unfortunately.

the C’s are losing leads/games late in the 4Q because tatum assumes the PG role, and opposing teams appropriately double team him as soon as he crosses mid-court. the lack of response to this defensive strategy is why teams frequently make huge runs in crunch time.

to your point, pushing the pace could work, but definitely not via JB, a really poor ball handler, attacking the entire defense by himself in 1-on-5 scenarios.

Maybe you’re not understanding the fact that we are in agreement. It was a poor decision and a bad shot. Yes. Should’ve kicked it to one of the open 3 point shooters. Simply stating I understand his aggressive mindset, just made the wrong play.

we’re not in agreement and it’s an important distinction. jb’s 1-on-5 shot wasn’t garbage ”mostly because he missed.” it was a garbage shot because it was an incredibly stupid, low BBIQ, selfish, hero ball shot with virtually zero chance of success, and not a shot one would ever advise any player to take, especially in ECF crunch time when the game is close and will likely be decided by a possession or two.

You’re a clown.

It was a bad shot. Good nba players take bad shots all the time, literally constantly. If they go in, they’re praised.
He was trying to be aggressive. Too aggressive. Should’ve kicked it out for 3. Wouldn’t be having this conversation if he made the shot.

yeah, nba players go 1-on-5 all the time. 

i thought i was having a discussion with someone who understands the game. my mistake.

Uh yeah the best players in the game take terrible shots literally constantly, if they go in it’s great. If they don’t the fans act like a crybaby like you.

We agree, that was a terrible play by brown. We wouldn’t be arguing about it 2 days later if it simply went in.
Browns gotta play smarter.

[cman88]

Boston has a good fan base...but they also might be one of the worst. Every loss it's trade our best players for some garbage on another team and run them out of town...

I wonder if Lakers fans are crying to trade Lebron and AD

[LilRip]

Here’s JB’s game in a nutshell imo:

STRENGTHS:
- talented and consistent scorer in any spot on the floor. Can score off ISO’s, cuts, catch and shoots, and especially transition
- Team player. He’s not selfish. He’s a willing passer
- Strong individual defender. He’s strong, hard to get by, and hard to shoot over.

WEAKNESSES:
- He doesn’t read the defense well in the half court, beyond the man he’s iso-ing. It’s why he gets jammed up in the lane a lot and has to pirouette a ton. It’s why he often gets caught in the air with nowhere to go. It’s why he doesn’t handle double teams well. His passes are fairly simple (or predetermined) and it’s because he doesn’t read the defense. He has to see an already-open man where (to his credit) he’s usually willing to make the pass.
- Weak team defender (relative for the NBA). Among our savvy players, he’s the most likely to have miscommunications or get caught out of position
- Inconsistent handles. Just one of those things. Some plays it’s good, some plays it’s really loose.

[keevsnick]

I really feel this one play illustrates his greatest strength (athleticism) and greatest weakness (low BBIQ).

How do you go 1 on 5 here? 

He lacks situational awareness and low IQ.  At this point, will he ever figure it out?

https://twitter.com/anotherftbacct/status/1659766350712287232?s=42&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ

He was an All-Star and ALL-NBA second team this year. HE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT.

The accolades you’re refferring to are nice.  It’s a great INDIVIDUAL achievement and will certainly allow him to get paid handsomely.  I’m not trying to dismiss that.

I’m referring to him figuring out how to play winning basketball, making winning plays, making his teammates better.

He's been on literally 5 ECF teams in 7 years. He must be doing something right. At the VERY LEAST he certainly isn't preventing team success.

I'm sorry, the idea that Jaylen doesn't contribute to winning is asinine. He's not a perfect player, almost no player in the league right now is. He has strength and weakness, just every 15th to 20th best NBA player does.

Could he be better at certain things? Yes. But the hate Jaylen gets is largely a product of "The grass is always greener" effect. Most NBA fans don't watch enough of other teams or players to really know what a guy's strengths ore weakness are, they get to see all the warts of their own guys but not those of a vast majority of NBA players. Because you have to watch A LOT of NBA to know when a guy has a loose handle, gets back cut, ect ect ect.