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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #870 on: May 25, 2023, 11:04:10 PM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?

If we lose on Saturday, then it won't matter at all. It'll be marginally better than getting swept, but it'll still be the same result in the end.

By taking this one game at a time, they've now given themselves a chance. Of course if they do come out and win the series, then Joe is safe for a while.

Unless we absolutely no show in game six, I think these two wins bought him another year at least, fair or not.

Not perfect, but he's looked much more active and competent the last two games and hasn't just sat on his hands on the sidelines.  Hopefully that keeps up.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #871 on: May 25, 2023, 11:19:48 PM »

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Somehow after game 3 he learned how to call time-outs. Or maybe it's just me.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #872 on: May 25, 2023, 11:22:35 PM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?

If we lose on Saturday, then it won't matter at all. It'll be marginally better than getting swept, but it'll still be the same result in the end.

By taking this one game at a time, they've now given themselves a chance. Of course if they do come out and win the series, then Joe is safe for a while.

Unless we absolutely no show in game six, I think these two wins bought him another year at least, fair or not.

Not perfect, but he's looked much more active and competent the last two games and hasn't just sat on his hands on the sidelines.  Hopefully that keeps up.

Yeah agreed

I only see him fired after Game 6 IF they get blown out like Game 3 AND the players basically have a mutiny against him. Then Wyc and CBS may have no choice

Otherwise they may just stick with mostly the same roster and coach.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #873 on: May 25, 2023, 11:23:41 PM »

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Somehow after game 3 he learned how to call time-outs. Or maybe it's just me.

He's done a pretty good job managing the last two games.  I think he's been learning from watching Soo. ;)


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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #874 on: May 25, 2023, 11:27:41 PM »

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Glad he talked to the team about playing defense the last two games. Now we just need him to do the same for 2 more.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #875 on: May 25, 2023, 11:27:53 PM »

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He said it started with defense during a TO. First time I've heard him say that.

It's still unacceptable it got to this point, but I'll take it I guess.

Win gm 6 and gm 7 is a formality.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #876 on: May 25, 2023, 11:59:32 PM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?

Yeah, we're stuck with him.

Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?

If we lose on Saturday, then it won't matter at all. It'll be marginally better than getting swept, but it'll still be the same result in the end.

By taking this one game at a time, they've now given themselves a chance. Of course if they do come out and win the series, then Joe is safe for a while.

Unless we absolutely no show in game six, I think these two wins bought him another year at least, fair or not.

Not perfect, but he's looked much more active and competent the last two games and hasn't just sat on his hands on the sidelines.  Hopefully that keeps up.

Agreed. Joe will be back next year.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #877 on: May 26, 2023, 12:11:49 AM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?
He may have - unless Tatum or Brown went to Wyc and said 'not him', which I doubt. He's may have earned a return with his own staff - provided that one of them is an ex NBA head coach that Brad/ownership sign off on.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #878 on: May 26, 2023, 12:57:33 AM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?
He may have - unless Tatum or Brown went to Wyc and said 'not him', which I doubt. He's may have earned a return with his own staff - provided that one of them is an ex NBA head coach that Brad/ownership sign off on.
I think this is a good compromise. Let him stay and have a say in who to bring in, with the only prerequisite being that it has to be an experienced NBA coach. Bring in someone like Vogel or MDA.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #879 on: May 26, 2023, 02:58:30 AM »

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I felt he was always going to be back...Brad and Wyc weren't going to overreact to a few bad games. It just means he may have a bit less pressure on him now than if we've been swept.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #880 on: May 26, 2023, 02:59:02 AM »

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Glad he talked to the team about playing defense the last two games. Now we just need him to do the same for 2 more.

I'm glad the team decided to play defense. If he needed to talk to them to get them to do it I would have serious concerns about them  :police:
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #881 on: May 26, 2023, 04:32:41 AM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?
He may have - unless Tatum or Brown went to Wyc and said 'not him', which I doubt. He's may have earned a return with his own staff - provided that one of them is an ex NBA head coach that Brad/ownership sign off on.

My preference is that we win the title and fire Joe anyway.  8)
If we were to somehow win this title, it would be because the players decided among themselves to crank up the defense and intensity, to play consistent team offense within themselves and not because Mazzulla made any significant contribution.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #882 on: May 26, 2023, 04:39:56 AM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?

If we lose on Saturday, then it won't matter at all. It'll be marginally better than getting swept, but it'll still be the same result in the end.

By taking this one game at a time, they've now given themselves a chance. Of course if they do come out and win the series, then Joe is safe for a while.

Unless we absolutely no show in game six, I think these two wins bought him another year at least, fair or not.

Not perfect, but he's looked much more active and competent the last two games and hasn't just sat on his hands on the sidelines.  Hopefully that keeps up.

Yeah agreed

I only see him fired after Game 6 IF they get blown out like Game 3 AND the players basically have a mutiny against him. Then Wyc and CBS may have no choice

Otherwise they may just stick with mostly the same roster and coach.

Which will result in another wasted season for a team with championship level talent.
Do you actually think Red would sit around and tolerate this incompetence ?
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #883 on: May 26, 2023, 05:19:24 AM »

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Did Joe just saved his job after Game 5?

If we lose on Saturday, then it won't matter at all. It'll be marginally better than getting swept, but it'll still be the same result in the end.

By taking this one game at a time, they've now given themselves a chance. Of course if they do come out and win the series, then Joe is safe for a while.

Unless we absolutely no show in game six, I think these two wins bought him another year at least, fair or not.

Not perfect, but he's looked much more active and competent the last two games and hasn't just sat on his hands on the sidelines.  Hopefully that keeps up.

Yeah agreed

I only see him fired after Game 6 IF they get blown out like Game 3 AND the players basically have a mutiny against him. Then Wyc and CBS may have no choice

Otherwise they may just stick with mostly the same roster and coach.

Which will result in another wasted season for a team with championship level talent.
Do you actually think Red would sit around and tolerate this incompetence ?

I think it's reasonable to give him some rope considering it's not just Udoka who's left, but also Stat and Hardy - and the timeline doesn't leave them with much time to replace all three:
  • Hardy goes to Utah as HC on June 29, officially. He goes on to lead the Jazz to a 37-45 record.
  • Udoka is suspended by the Celtics on September 22, officially. Mazzulla named interim HC at the same time.
  • Mazz loses the 'interim' title on February 16, officially. The C's are 42-17.
  • Stat is named Georgia Tech's new HC on March 12, officially.
  • The wheels start to fall off for the Celtics soon after.

That's a lot of brain drain for one season with not a lot of time to replace them because of the timing. Two more of Udoka's assistants could be leaving for Houston, so it really depends on how Mazz & Stevens restock the coaching staff before we can pass judgement on them, I think.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #884 on: May 26, 2023, 06:12:18 AM »

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It seems he’s made the right adjustments and may save his job.  I just wish he’d make the necessary adjustments a bit quicker.