I have no issue with him describing them both as successful. Of course we want titles, but the list of players their age or younger who have a better resume is extremely small. Sure young Kobe won, but he had prime Shaq. Giannis was 26, and he is essentially the youngest "best player" that carried a title team. Bird was 24 I believe, and Magic was 20. Both of those players had very good teams around them.