Is this team overrated?

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Yes, they are overrated. They have a rookie coach. What are the chances that two rookie coaches make it to the Finaps in back to back years? How long did it take Coach Bud (a superior coach to Ime and Mazz) to win a ring?

Would like to see how you came to this conclusion

Coach Bud? More experience. Also he won a ring.

You think Mazz is better than Bud? Not sure how many agree with this.

I think Coach Bud is supported by more willing owners who enable his FO to make great moves (Holiday). Prior to that stacked big 3, many thought Bud was holding that team back.

Are you making the point that Mazz>Bud?

No, I'm still waiting for your argument as to why Bud is better beyond "experience" and winning a ring. Is Doc Rivers a better coach than Brad Stevens was?

He was the year that he won a title, for sure. Since then, Doc hasn’t been great. Bud hasn’t had as many playoff letdowns as Doc did in LA.

This is a silly argument. Bud is one of the best coaches in the league with Kerr, Spo, and Pop. Mazz doesn’t have a resume to compare to Bud… yet.

[coco]

Short answer; if the Cs will take half their shots from 3, then yes.  Cs could be overrated.

[Moranis]

Yes, they are overrated. They have a rookie coach. What are the chances that two rookie coaches make it to the Finaps in back to back years? How long did it take Coach Bud (a superior coach to Ime and Mazz) to win a ring?

Would like to see how you came to this conclusion

Coach Bud? More experience. Also he won a ring.

You think Mazz is better than Bud? Not sure how many agree with this.

I think Coach Bud is supported by more willing owners who enable his FO to make great moves (Holiday). Prior to that stacked big 3, many thought Bud was holding that team back.

Are you making the point that Mazz>Bud?

No, I'm still waiting for your argument as to why Bud is better beyond "experience" and winning a ring. Is Doc Rivers a better coach than Brad Stevens was?

He was the year that he won a title, for sure. Since then, Doc hasn’t been great. Bud hasn’t had as many playoff letdowns as Doc did in LA.

This is a silly argument. Bud is one of the best coaches in the league with Kerr, Spo, and Pop. Mazz doesn’t have a resume to compare to Bud… yet.

I'm not sure I'd put Bud in that class, but when he took the Hawks to the ECF in 2015, it had been 45 years since the Hawks were in a conference finals and that at the time and still is their only 60-win season ever.  They are basically an original team so there is that.  He then goes to Milwaukee and they go from a 44 win 1st round loser, to 60 wins and the ECF before winning the title in Bud's 3rd year.  The Bucks hadn't been to the Finals since they had Kareem/Oscar in 74 and hadn't won since the title in 71.

There is something to be said for a coach that comes and immediately has the most successful season for a franchise in basically 50 years.  And then turns around and does it again with a different franchise.

[Banner18now!]

They are because their coach sucks.

[scaryjerry]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

[Roy H.]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

Didn’t I just see a stat that JT has hit over 50% of his game winners  / game tying shots?

[smokeablount]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

Didn’t I just see a stat that JT has hit over 50% of his game winners  / game tying shots?

Not only that, he has the highest percentage of any NBA player since the mid-90s. I was surprised and it goes to show how difficult it is to make clutch shots.

[gouki88]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

What a ridiculous post

[gouki88]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

Didn’t I just see a stat that JT has hit over 50% of his game winners  / game tying shots?

Not only that, he has the highest percentage of any NBA player since the mid-90s. I was surprised and it goes to show how difficult it is to make clutch shots.

Don't let facts get in the way of all their tantrums

[scaryjerry]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

Didn’t I just see a stat that JT has hit over 50% of his game winners  / game tying shots?

Probably against the likes of the pistons and hornets.
Phenomenal talent and my post is certainly an over reaction, if it wasn’t for game 6 against the bucks last year I’d truly think he always shrinks in the biggest moments against the best teams and you can frankly see the nerves on his face.

[scaryjerry]

They are because their coach sucks.

Coach sucks and there best player is a stat padding choker…not a good combo

Didn’t I just see a stat that JT has hit over 50% of his game winners  / game tying shots?

Not only that, he has the highest percentage of any NBA player since the mid-90s. I was surprised and it goes to show how difficult it is to make clutch shots.

Don't let facts get in the way of all their tantrums

Tatum missed every shot last night that could’ve separated us from the knicks in the clutch and up 3 in over time with the ball he straight up threw it out of bounds.
All the coaches fault though?

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Last night’s Bill Simmons podcast was good. Russillo made the case that people don’t really know what they’re talking about when criticizing NBA coaching. The easiest thing to look at is timeouts, which is what I’ve been reading about on the blog ad nauseum.

[Kernewek]

Last night’s Bill Simmons podcast was good. Russillo made the case that people don’t really know what they’re talking about when criticizing NBA coaching. The easiest thing to look at is timeouts, which is what I’ve been reading about on the blog ad nauseum.

Whilst he's right, the fact that this is coming from Simmons and Russillo is pure pots and kettles.

[smokeablount]

Last night’s Bill Simmons podcast was good. Russillo made the case that people don’t really know what they’re talking about when criticizing NBA coaching. The easiest thing to look at is timeouts, which is what I’ve been reading about on the blog ad nauseum.

Whilst he's right, the fact that this is coming from Simmons and Russillo is pure pots and kettles.

Yeah, I listen to both Simmons and Russillo very frequently and I like their work, but they would not be among the top 10 most knowledgeable CelticsStrong posters if active here.

[CelticSooner]

This is the lowest confidence I’ve had in this team all season. The edge they played with has reverted back into the Brad Stevens jump shooting playoff whimper. The mentality was on the right track under Udoka and now it feels like we are back to same point before he got hired.