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Mo Money, Mo Problems?
« on: February 26, 2023, 05:14:08 PM »

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Jaylen Brown’s performance this season has been fantastic, so much so, he may have an argument for All-NBA selection.

For comparison, here are last season’s All-NBA teams:

2021-22

All-NBA First Team

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Devin Booker
Luka Dončić
Nikola Jokić
Jayson Tatum

All-NBA Second Team

Stephen Curry
DeMar DeRozan
Kevin Durant
Joel Embiid
Ja Morant

All-NBA Third Team

LeBron James
Chris Paul
Pascal Siakam
Karl-Anthony Towns
Trae Young

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Given that Jayson Tatum has already qualified for a future super-max contract, if Brown makes All-NBA, the Celtics would have two super-max contracts in their future.

Will Wyc pay two super-max contracts?
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Re: Mo Money, Mo Problems?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2023, 05:35:47 PM »

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There’s a good chance there will be a cap spike large enough in year 2 of Jaylen’s supermax that would take his year 2 salary (year one of Jayson’s supermax) below even a 30% max for a newly signed free agent.  So the C’s should absolutely hope Jaylen is super-max eligible and accepts the deal, because it will be a bargain in the long run.

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There’s a good chance there will be a cap spike large enough in year 2 of Jaylen’s supermax that would take his year 2 salary (year one of Jayson’s supermax) below even a 30% max for a newly signed free agent.  So the C’s should absolutely hope Jaylen is super-max eligible and accepts the deal, because it will be a bargain in the long run.

New TV contract money, right?


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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2023, 05:41:25 PM »

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There’s a good chance there will be a cap spike large enough in year 2 of Jaylen’s supermax that would take his year 2 salary (year one of Jayson’s supermax) below even a 30% max for a newly signed free agent.  So the C’s should absolutely hope Jaylen is super-max eligible and accepts the deal, because it will be a bargain in the long run.

You are 100% right, but I’ve read that Brown and his agent will not be signing a new contract until the salary cap jumps, especially because he took a discount on his restricted free agency.

The most likely scenario is Brown running his contract down into free agency.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2023, 06:32:16 PM »

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There’s a good chance there will be a cap spike large enough in year 2 of Jaylen’s supermax that would take his year 2 salary (year one of Jayson’s supermax) below even a 30% max for a newly signed free agent.  So the C’s should absolutely hope Jaylen is super-max eligible and accepts the deal, because it will be a bargain in the long run.

New TV contract money, right?

Correct.

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2023, 06:36:43 PM »

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There’s a good chance there will be a cap spike large enough in year 2 of Jaylen’s supermax that would take his year 2 salary (year one of Jayson’s supermax) below even a 30% max for a newly signed free agent.  So the C’s should absolutely hope Jaylen is super-max eligible and accepts the deal, because it will be a bargain in the long run.

You are 100% right, but I’ve read that Brown and his agent will not be signing a new contract until the salary cap jumps, especially because he took a discount on his restricted free agency.

The most likely scenario is Brown running his contract down into free agency.

Who knows what will happen, of course.  If Brown wants to capitalize on a new TV deal he’ll have to sign a 1-year deal to bridge the gap.  After a one-year deal, however, he would only be eligible for a 30% max, so if he really wants to strike it big he’d need to sign two consecutive one-year deals.  I think if he gets his All-NBA status and the C’s offer him the super-max this summer, he’ll take it, as opposed to playing out the last year of this contract and then signing two one-year deals to get every penny possible.

Also, if Brown won’t sign a big deal because he wants to wait for the new TV contract, that isn’t about Wyc opening up the checkbook.

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If I was JB’s agent, I’d advise him to take the supermax if he qualifies.  A 1+1 deal just doesn’t make as much sense for a guy who isn’t an ultra-rich icon.


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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2023, 06:59:56 PM »

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If I was JB’s agent, I’d advise him to take the supermax if he qualifies.  A 1+1 deal just doesn’t make as much sense for a guy who isn’t an ultra-rich icon.

Especially because he won’t be able to even seek out a 1+1 deal until after the supermax offer has expired.  He may feel like he’s signed a bargain deal last time around, but a supermax signed this summer will literally be the biggest deal in NBA history when the ink dries.  It’ll get eclipsed, like deals do every season, but he will be getting paid like a superstar.

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I'm not sure he make an All NBA team, but if he does Boston should offer and he should accept the 35% max.
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There’s a good chance there will be a cap spike large enough in year 2 of Jaylen’s supermax that would take his year 2 salary (year one of Jayson’s supermax) below even a 30% max for a newly signed free agent.  So the C’s should absolutely hope Jaylen is super-max eligible and accepts the deal, because it will be a bargain in the long run.

New TV contract money, right?

Correct.

As things stand now, the big money will show up. Sports is still the king of bringing in eyeballs.

However, rapidly expanding budgets can't go up like this forever, and the economics of entertainment and the networks that pony up the contracts are in a state of high flux. Jaylen will likely get his money, but this system overall is likely to hit a wall in this decade.

We should all hope he gets an all-NBA nod. That makes things simpler.

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2023, 08:32:33 PM »

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Jaylen Brown’s performance this season has been fantastic, so much so, he may have an argument for All-NBA selection.

For comparison, here are last season’s All-NBA teams:

2021-22

All-NBA First Team

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Devin Booker
Luka Dončić
Nikola Jokić
Jayson Tatum

All-NBA Second Team

Stephen Curry
DeMar DeRozan
Kevin Durant
Joel Embiid
Ja Morant

All-NBA Third Team

LeBron James
Chris Paul
Pascal Siakam
Karl-Anthony Towns
Trae Young

—————————

Given that Jayson Tatum has already qualified for a future super-max contract, if Brown makes All-NBA, the Celtics would have two super-max contracts in their future.

Will Wyc pay two super-max contracts?
If we're winning titles, yes

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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2023, 08:38:31 PM »

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Hold up, the supermax for Jaylen could be 290M? WOWZA  :o

If they do pay that then I guess ticket prices + concessions are going to continue to soar lol

It's hard to see how they can keep most of the guys beyond 2024 though. Not every ownership group and organization is like the Warriors who will pay 100-200M+ in just luxury tax each year
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 Chris Forsberg has brought this up several times as a big plus, because we could lock him up early without him becoming a FA.  Would be costly but hope it happens. 

Do playoffs factor into all NBA selection, or is it strictly an regular season award?


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Hold up, the supermax for Jaylen could be 290M? WOWZA  :o

If they do pay that then I guess ticket prices + concessions are going to continue to soar lol

It's hard to see how they can keep most of the guys beyond 2024 though. Not every ownership group and organization is like the Warriors who will pay 100-200M+ in just luxury tax each year

Keep in mind, the reason that max contracts are going up is because revenue is rapidly expanding.  Don’t feel bad for ownership; they’re sitting on a goldmine.


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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2023, 09:42:59 PM »

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Hold up, the supermax for Jaylen could be 290M? WOWZA  :o

If they do pay that then I guess ticket prices + concessions are going to continue to soar lol

It's hard to see how they can keep most of the guys beyond 2024 though. Not every ownership group and organization is like the Warriors who will pay 100-200M+ in just luxury tax each year

Yep, but wait until you see what Tatum’s supermax could be…