2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread

[liam]

My first choice for a signing would be Stanley Johnson but I'd be fine with a Juan Toscano-Anderson...  Will Barton would be good but I'm not sure we'd offer enough time for him to play for what will probably be his next and last contract.

[Who]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

[celticsclay]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

I am a bit confused who the 76ers would cut though. Both house and Harrell stupidly have played options for next year. They could cut them but dead money is pretty bad for a team around luxury tax. Also, I am taking a victory lap on Harrell. Called it a pretty bad signing when they did it, and it has been even worse than I would have guessed. Been so bad that the 76ers signed dedmon to replace his role despite the player option I mentioned.

[Celtics2021]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

I am a bit confused who the 76ers would cut though. Both house and Harrell stupidly have played options for next year. They could cut them but dead money is pretty bad for a team around luxury tax. Also, I am taking a victory lap on Harrell. Called it a pretty bad signing when they did it, and it has been even worse than I would have guessed. Been so bad that the 76ers signed dedmon to replace his role despite the player option I mentioned.

I’d be happy to put in a waiver claim on Paul Reed.  He’s actually the rare player who qualifies for a DPE waiver request but isn’t eligible for teams using a minimum-salary exception, because he signed a 3-year deal originally.

[celticsclay]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

If they end waiving Reed cause they signed dedmon they are idiots

I am a bit confused who the 76ers would cut though. Both house and Harrell stupidly have played options for next year. They could cut them but dead money is pretty bad for a team around luxury tax. Also, I am taking a victory lap on Harrell. Called it a pretty bad signing when they did it, and it has been even worse than I would have guessed. Been so bad that the 76ers signed dedmon to replace his role despite the player option I mentioned.

I’d be happy to put in a waiver claim on Paul Reed.  He’s actually the rare player who qualifies for a DPE waiver request but isn’t eligible for teams using a minimum-salary exception, because he signed a 3-year deal originally.

[Vermont Green]

Not sure where to put this but there was a lot of Poeltl talk as the trade deadline was coming up so I was interested to see how he is doing in Toronto.  The Raptors are 3-1 in the 4 games he as played (albeit against very weak competition).  He is shooting 82% from the field (16 pts/gm) but only 35% from the FT line (5-14).  He has 10 blocks, 5 steals, but 21 fouls.

Overall, +33 with a NetR of +15.9.

Let's see if that holds up.

[footey]

It's tough for any FA to consider the C's when there will be more options for PT.  Barton needs to play for a new contract for next year and I doubt he will get showcased enough on this squad to show a team what he's worth.  The guy was good bench player just a year ago but needs to play to prove it. 

The other end is how does he not crack the rotation on a bad Wizards squad?

Barton actually started 71 games a year ago for Denver (he was not a bench player).  And was a full time starter the prior two seasons also.  Yeah, that big question is what happened in Washington.  He is 38% from 3 this season, about what he did the last 3 seasons in Denver.  I think the Celtics have a chance.  I don't think he becomes a starter anywhere.

Aren't the contract rules strange in that if we sign him to a min or near min contract (use DPE), that we are limited as to what we can resign him for?  That we would not have full Bird rights to sign him to whatever we want?

No one who signs him this season will have Bird rights next season (more technically they’ll have non-Bird rights).  The only difference is if the C’s use the DPE, they couldn’t sign him to a deal with a player option, whereas a team (including the Celtics) who signed him with the minimum could give him a player option.

Is that you, Saltlover? LOL

[footey]

Not sure where to put this but there was a lot of Poeltl talk as the trade deadline was coming up so I was interested to see how he is doing in Toronto.  The Raptors are 3-1 in the 4 games he as played (albeit against very weak competition).  He is shooting 82% from the field (16 pts/gm) but only 35% from the FT line (5-14).  He has 10 blocks, 5 steals, but 21 fouls.

Overall, +33 with a NetR of +15.9.

Let's see if that holds up.

He has been awesome. With Rob's significant decline I think we may regret failing to trade for him.

[Birdman]

I wanted Poeltl badly…I just don’t think u can trust TimeLord health anymore especially during playoffs time in a 6 or 7 game series

[NHHillbilly]

Poetl is only 35% from the FT line (5-14)? That is a deal breaker right there for a championship team. Simmons has more basketball skills than Poetl, but his free throw shooting sinks his game.

[celticsclay]

Poetl is only 35% from the FT line (5-14)? That is a deal breaker right there for a championship team. Simmons has more basketball skills than Poetl, but his free throw shooting sinks his game.

This is a little silly. He is a bad foul shooter but he was 60% for spurs this year. Acting like he is 35% off 14 shots doesn’t make a ton of stuff

[tazzmaniac]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

I am a bit confused who the 76ers would cut though. Both house and Harrell stupidly have played options for next year. They could cut them but dead money is pretty bad for a team around luxury tax. Also, I am taking a victory lap on Harrell. Called it a pretty bad signing when they did it, and it has been even worse than I would have guessed. Been so bad that the 76ers signed dedmon to replace his role despite the player option I mentioned.

Could they cut Dedmon to sign Barton? 

[celticsclay]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

I am a bit confused who the 76ers would cut though. Both house and Harrell stupidly have played options for next year. They could cut them but dead money is pretty bad for a team around luxury tax. Also, I am taking a victory lap on Harrell. Called it a pretty bad signing when they did it, and it has been even worse than I would have guessed. Been so bad that the 76ers signed dedmon to replace his role despite the player option I mentioned.

Could they cut Dedmon to sign Barton?

My understanding is that there are two problems with this. They gave dedmon a guaranteed contract for the rest of the season. If they waived him let’s say even Sunday he would be ineligible for the postseason on a new team. I know good will and this stuff doesn’t matter as much as some people think, but this would be pretty egregious. I don’t think a buy out guy would really sign there again if they gave dedmon guaranteed contract just to make it impossible for him to play in playoffs with anyone a week later. I don’t think that has ever happened before. The second part is I think signing Barton on top of dedmons contract would put them back in luxury tax. A cap expert can correct me, but they had a big article on how their moves at deadline actually got them a smidge under luxury tax. I think they desperately want to avoid repeater tax.

[Celtics2021]

Philly would be nice for Barton. He would have a good role there. Play a lot of minutes.

I am a bit confused who the 76ers would cut though. Both house and Harrell stupidly have played options for next year. They could cut them but dead money is pretty bad for a team around luxury tax. Also, I am taking a victory lap on Harrell. Called it a pretty bad signing when they did it, and it has been even worse than I would have guessed. Been so bad that the 76ers signed dedmon to replace his role despite the player option I mentioned.

Could they cut Dedmon to sign Barton?

My understanding is that there are two problems with this. They gave dedmon a guaranteed contract for the rest of the season. If they waived him let’s say even Sunday he would be ineligible for the postseason on a new team. I know good will and this stuff doesn’t matter as much as some people think, but this would be pretty egregious. I don’t think a buy out guy would really sign there again if they gave dedmon guaranteed contract just to make it impossible for him to play in playoffs with anyone a week later. I don’t think that has ever happened before. The second part is I think signing Barton on top of dedmons contract would put them back in luxury tax. A cap expert can correct me, but they had a big article on how their moves at deadline actually got them a smidge under luxury tax. I think they desperately want to avoid repeater tax.

With regard to the tax, they have the room to sign one more player to a rest-of-season contract. They can’t give a player option and stay under the tax, however, because then the cap/tax number would go up (or, if they did do this, they’d need to wait another 10 days or so to sign someone so that the salary amount pro-rated to a lower number).

[Phantom255x]

What's taking so long for everyone else to decide