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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #345 on: February 06, 2023, 07:13:52 PM »

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Kyrie + LeBron + A Davis would have been an amazing Big Three. LA was so lucky that Kyrie is such a headcase and was forcing his way out of Brooklyn; terrible decision not to go all-in with Kyrie. That was their pathway back to title contention.

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« Reply #346 on: February 06, 2023, 07:14:40 PM »

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Kyrie + LeBron + A Davis would have been an amazing Big Three. LA was so lucky that Kyrie is such a headcase and was forcing his way out of Brooklyn; terrible decision not to go all-in with Kyrie. That was their pathway back to title contention.

It didn't sound like Tsai and the Nets wanted to trade him to any LA teams

They were basically demanding everything they had from both teams
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #347 on: February 06, 2023, 07:23:00 PM »

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Apparently the deal is not officially done yet, they may expand it to a 3-team trade (DAL still gets Irving obviously)
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« Reply #348 on: February 06, 2023, 07:36:36 PM »

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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #349 on: February 06, 2023, 07:48:41 PM »

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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #350 on: February 07, 2023, 09:33:38 AM »

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Apparently the deal is not officially done yet, they may expand it to a 3-team trade (DAL still gets Irving obviously)

DFS to the C's please.

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« Reply #351 on: February 07, 2023, 10:31:58 AM »

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Apparently the deal is not officially done yet, they may expand it to a 3-team trade (DAL still gets Irving obviously)

DFS to the C's please.

I believe it's official now.


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« Reply #352 on: February 07, 2023, 02:33:00 PM »

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Apparently, Kyrie went back and deleted his apology for the anti-Semitic stuff.  What a scumbag if that is truly the case.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kyrie-irving-deleted-apology-for-sharing-false-antisemitic-statements-as-trade-from-nets-materialized-191027837.html

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Kyrie Irving is officially no longer a member of the Brooklyn Nets, and it looks like he might have rethought his feelings about antisemitism on his way out.

You might remember how the newest member of the Dallas Mavericks ignited the biggest controversy of the NBA season when he posted and repeatedly defended a documentary riddled with antisemitic falsehoods and conspiracy theories, such as a false quote from Adolf Hitler, whose name was misspelled.


That saga ended with Irving receiving a suspension from the Nets that eventually lasted eight games and, among other things, issuing an apology to the Jewish community for circulating a documentary that "contained some false, anti-Semitic statements."

Well, The Athletic's Sam Amick noted in a podcast published Tuesday that Irving recently deleted said apology as his demanded trade from the Nets to the Mavericks materialized.

The fact that Irving did so quietly makes it hard to judge his intent, but you have to question what about such a statement made him no longer want it on his Instagram feed. For posterity, here's the full deleted apology:

While doing research on YHWH, I posted a Documentary that contained some false anti-Semitic statements, narratives, and language that were untrue and offensive to the Jewish Race/Religion, and I take full accountability and responsibly for my actions. I am grateful to have a big platform to share knowledge and I want to move forward by having an open dialogue to learn more and grow from this.

To All Jewish families and Communities that are hurt and affected from my post, I am deeply sorry to have caused you pain, and I apologize. I initially reacted out of emotion to being unjustly labeled Anti-Semitic, instead of focusing on the healing process of my Jewish Brothers and Sisters that were hurt from the hateful remarks made in the Documentary. I want to clarify any confusion on where I stand fighting against Anti- semticism by apologizing for posting the documentary without context and a factual explanation outlining the specific beliefs in the Documentary I agreed with and disagreed with. I had no intentions to disrespect any Jewish cultural history regarding the Holocaust or perpetuate any hate. I am learning from this unfortunate event and hope we can find understanding between us all. I am no different than any other human being. I am a seeker of truth and knowledge, and I know who I Am.

KYRIE

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That apology came around the time the Nets issued a list of requirements for Irving to return, such as completing sensitivity training and meeting with Jewish leaders in the Brooklyn community. The All-Star guard was also asked to make a verbal apology through the media, but never did so.

As Irving returned, it was reported that Irving's requirements evolved as he took ownership of the process, drawing praise from the National Basketball Players Association, of which he is a vice president:

"Kyrie is continuing his journey of dialogue and education," NBPA executive director Tamika Tremaglio told ESPN on Wednesday night. "He has been grappling with the full weight of the impact of his voice and actions, particularly in the Jewish community. Kyrie rejects Antisemitism in any form, and he's dedicated to bettering himself and increasing his level of understanding. He plans to continue this journey well into the future to ensure that his words and actions align with his pursuit of truth and knowledge."

It's unclear if Irving deleting his apology will receive any attention from the NBA or the Mavericks, whose owner Mark Cuban is Jewish. Irving's reputation hit an all-time low in the aftermath of his defending the documentary, but recovered enough in the months after that several teams were apparently interested in acquiring him once his trade demand from the Nets was made public.



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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #353 on: February 07, 2023, 02:39:57 PM »

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Yeah, it disgusts me that fans voted this racist into the All-Star game, that one of our best players is good friends with him, and that other teams are giving him tens of millions of dollars to play while spreading hate and discontent.


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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #354 on: February 07, 2023, 02:42:50 PM »

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Cuban's a smart guy. I have to think he knows he was going against his better judgement here by okaying this move.


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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #355 on: February 07, 2023, 03:16:55 PM »

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Hopefully reporters ask him about this and hold him accountable. Despicable thing and shows how he really feels if he really did delete  it, while still peddling his racist nonsense.

You have to think that the Mavs must have been feeling pretty desperate to take on this headcase. I wonder if they’re feeling some pressure from Luka.

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« Reply #356 on: February 07, 2023, 04:57:54 PM »

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Smh… ::)  Sounds like kyrie just wanted out and that was more of the issue than his extension. Now he’s willing to focus on the season and isn’t in a rush for an extension.

Kyrie Irving on Nets: There are times that I felt really disrespected

Tim MacMahon: Kyrie Irving on joining the Mavericks: “I feel really wanted.” Asked about departing Brooklyn, he says, “There are times that I felt really disrespected.” – via Twitter espn_macmahon

Mark Medina: Kyrie Irving said he “there’s no rush” on expecting an extension with the Dallas Mavericks and trying to focus on the season – via Twitter MarkG_Medina

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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #357 on: February 07, 2023, 04:59:05 PM »

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Kidd, who along with Doncic pushed for the trade, has long had a relationship with Irving, as has Dallas general manager and former longtime Nike executive Nico Harrison.

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Kidd, who led the New Jersey Nets to two Finals appearances before winning a title with the Mavs during his playing career, was one of Irving's favorite players during Irving's childhood growing up in New Jersey. They got to know each other while sharing a personal trainer, Robin Pound, and Irving made a point to attend Kidd's Hall of Fame induction.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35604983/jason-kidd-says-kyrie-irving-gives-mavericks-shot-title

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Irving's absence was felt hardest by several young players who said that he served as a mentor to them. Nets big man Nic Claxton said Irving was one of the best teammates he's ever had. Nets guard Cam Thomas, who scored a career-high 47 points in Monday's loss, said Irving was like a big brother to him.

"That's my guy," Thomas said of Irving. "We talk about a lot. We talk about Kobe. Just life in general, man. Life in general. That's probably the main thing I miss from Kai, me having that big brother on the team, somebody to laugh with, joke with, make fun of. Just my big brother."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35605818/jacque-vaughn-nets-wish-kyrie-irving-well-want-succeed

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« Reply #358 on: February 07, 2023, 05:16:14 PM »

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Smh… ::)  Sounds like kyrie just wanted out and that was more of the issue than his extension. Now he’s willing to focus on the season and isn’t in a rush for an extension.

Kyrie Irving on Nets: There are times that I felt really disrespected

Tim MacMahon: Kyrie Irving on joining the Mavericks: “I feel really wanted.” Asked about departing Brooklyn, he says, “There are times that I felt really disrespected.” – via Twitter espn_macmahon

Mark Medina: Kyrie Irving said he “there’s no rush” on expecting an extension with the Dallas Mavericks and trying to focus on the season – via Twitter MarkG_Medina



Disrespected as in they didn't want to give him a max extension and made him play a prove-it year this year I'm guessing. I wouldn't have given him a max either given how unreliable he is.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Traded to Mavs (Dinwiddie, DFS, #1)
« Reply #359 on: February 07, 2023, 05:32:32 PM »

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Smh… ::)  Sounds like kyrie just wanted out and that was more of the issue than his extension. Now he’s willing to focus on the season and isn’t in a rush for an extension.

Kyrie Irving on Nets: There are times that I felt really disrespected

Tim MacMahon: Kyrie Irving on joining the Mavericks: “I feel really wanted.” Asked about departing Brooklyn, he says, “There are times that I felt really disrespected.” – via Twitter espn_macmahon

Mark Medina: Kyrie Irving said he “there’s no rush” on expecting an extension with the Dallas Mavericks and trying to focus on the season – via Twitter MarkG_Medina



Disrespected as in they didn't want to give him a max extension and made him play a prove-it year this year I'm guessing. I wouldn't have given him a max either given how unreliable he is.

Kyrie, we really wanted you to. So did Brooklyn.

But at some point, you have to give the same level of commitment that an organization gives you.