Backup bigs

[Silas]

Green Kornet....11:21 min, 6pts, 5 rebs, 2 bliks, and 0 TOs.  Not too shabby!

[tenn_smoothie]

I’d be interested in trading Gallo, Pritchard, and a first for Poeltl next month.  This is a championship team with a better center.  It’s a lot to give up for a rental, but I don’t think we can rely on R Williams. 

I don’t know if we would get Poeltl’s Bird rights.  I would like to re-sign him for next year, Grant Williams too.  It’s time for Wyc to open the vault.

Right on all counts.

I like Pritchard a lot, but if that trade works, spend the money !!!!
If Wyc doesn't want to spend what is needed, he has no business owning the team.
This ain't Oklahoma City. This is the Boston Celtics !!!!

[RockinRyA]

I’d be interested in trading Gallo, Pritchard, and a first for Poeltl next month.  This is a championship team with a better center.  It’s a lot to give up for a rental, but I don’t think we can rely on R Williams. 

I don’t know if we would get Poeltl’s Bird rights.  I would like to re-sign him for next year, Grant Williams too.  It’s time for Wyc to open the vault.

Right on all counts.

I like Pritchard a lot, but if that trade works, spend the money !!!!
If Wyc doesn't want to spend what is needed, he has no business owning the team.
This ain't Oklahoma City. This is the Boston Celtics !!!!

I dont like this because it leaves us with 2027 as our next pick, and there's no guarantee that Poetl even means a championship. He also might be a rental. IMHO its a narrow-minded deal.

I'd rather sign up Favors or something.

[Goldstar88]

Wrong thread

[#1P4P]

With Pritchard and Kornet playing extended minutes like they did tonight against this level of comp, I'd put the Poetl talk on the backburner.

Payton's defensive metrics have done a 180 to the point that he's the best on the team in major categories (limited minutes). His metrics now match the eye test because he did a great job of competing and staying in front of his assignment last season, but it didn't translate (opponents would still make tough shots against him or he'd foul).

Pritchard's offense has improved as well, as he's pushing the pace and taking the elbow jumper with confidence. He's been so good (and Celtics owners so thrifty lol) that the C's might be more inclined to extending him and moving Brogdon or White instead (not this season though).

Kornet's defensive metrics place him among the best on the team, right behind Payton's, and with such a solid, deep offensive team, any offense is cake.

I think we should stand pat and wait for reinforcements, we'll have a clearer picture of what the team needs in January. They also have a close view of where Danilo's at in his recovery, so if they don't trade him, it'll tell me that his recovery is before season's end.

[Roy H.]

Thomas Bryant should finally make his debut with the Lakers tonight.  I'm curious to see what he looks like, since as far as I'm aware he's the only reported target that we had interest in that signed elsewhere.

[Neurotic Guy]

I can’t watch last night’s game and think about trading anyone.  Missing 3 of the top 6 players on the team and the 2 stars not shooting well, the Cs took care of the 9-5 Hawks in Atlanta.  The shooting depth on this team is finally matching how they’ve wanted to play offensively.  Grant, White, Sam, and Payton - all shooting well, all contributing, all (the entire team) seemingly happy to be on the Celtics. It’s so good at this moment, changing this roster just feels wrong.  Might feel different next week though, who knows?

[bogg]

Thomas Bryant should finally make his debut with the Lakers tonight.  I'm curious to see what he looks like, since as far as I'm aware he's the only reported target that we had interest in that signed elsewhere.

Montrezl Harrell stated that Boston offered him a contract but he went to Philadelphia because Boston wasn't promising a large enough role.

[Big333223]

Thomas Bryant should finally make his debut with the Lakers tonight.  I'm curious to see what he looks like, since as far as I'm aware he's the only reported target that we had interest in that signed elsewhere.

Montrezl Harrell stated that Boston offered him a contract but he went to Philadelphia because Boston wasn't promising a large enough role.

Yep. And good luck to him.

I get the impression the C's went to him really honest about what they wanted and were probably fine with him walking if he wasn't down with their thinking. And I'd rather have Vonleh than Harrell right now, tbh.

If Kornet is rounding into a decent 2nd string center that's huge, because he's really the 3rd string center if Rob comes back healthy (and 4th string given how the C's use Grant a lot).

[droopdog7]

Thomas Bryant should finally make his debut with the Lakers tonight.  I'm curious to see what he looks like, since as far as I'm aware he's the only reported target that we had interest in that signed elsewhere.

Montrezl Harrell stated that Boston offered him a contract but he went to Philadelphia because Boston wasn't promising a large enough role.

And it’s already looking like a mistake on both sides.  But it’s pretty typical.  Fans generally are enamored by the shiny object.  Harrell is no different to me than all the other names being thrown it there (Howard, cousins, favors, etc.).  These dudes are names that people know and people just think they’re better.  Fit is important.

I saw what kornet is doing last year.  He’s big, he moves his feet and quite well (period).  Not saying he’s going to be a star, and you can’t ask him to do too much.  But he’s not going to be a weak link out there.

[bogg]

Yep. And good luck to him.

I get the impression the C's went to him really honest about what they wanted and were probably fine with him walking if he wasn't down with their thinking. And I'd rather have Vonleh than Harrell right now, tbh.

If Kornet is rounding into a decent 2nd string center that's huge, because he's really the 3rd string center if Rob comes back healthy (and 4th string given how the C's use Grant a lot).

Yea, based on Harrell's comments it sounded like Boston wouldn't make any particular promises about a spot in the rotation while Philly told him he'd be the primary backup to Embiid. I suspect Trez winning 6MOY playing for Doc previously probably influenced him as well.

[Vermont Green]

Yep. And good luck to him.

I get the impression the C's went to him really honest about what they wanted and were probably fine with him walking if he wasn't down with their thinking. And I'd rather have Vonleh than Harrell right now, tbh.

If Kornet is rounding into a decent 2nd string center that's huge, because he's really the 3rd string center if Rob comes back healthy (and 4th string given how the C's use Grant a lot).

Yea, based on Harrell's comments it sounded like Boston wouldn't make any particular promises about a spot in the rotation while Philly told him he'd be the primary backup to Embiid. I suspect Trez winning 6MOY playing for Doc previously probably influenced him as well.

Harrell is only playing 11 min/gm for Philly, and not doing much in those minutes.  11th most playing time on the team.  Just ahead of Paul Reed.  And Harrell would have projected to be better than any of Cousins, Whiteside, Favors, and so on.  He is only 28.  The Celtics made him a min offer, he declined, he took a min offer elsewhere.  I suspect the Celtics have made other offers that were declined.

I think this illustrates two point.  The first is that these FA bigs that keep getting talked about are probably going to have less impact on the Celtics than Harrell is having on the Sixers.  Second, it is wrong to assume the Celtics haven't made offers or are not making offers because of financial reasons.

I am all for adding some depth.  I suspect they probably will.  I am also fine with just slow playing this.  Letting things play out.  No need to do a deal just to do a deal.

[Surferdad]

Thomas Bryant should finally make his debut with the Lakers tonight.  I'm curious to see what he looks like, since as far as I'm aware he's the only reported target that we had interest in that signed elsewhere.

Watch, LAL will start winning.

[Big333223]

Yep. And good luck to him.

I get the impression the C's went to him really honest about what they wanted and were probably fine with him walking if he wasn't down with their thinking. And I'd rather have Vonleh than Harrell right now, tbh.

If Kornet is rounding into a decent 2nd string center that's huge, because he's really the 3rd string center if Rob comes back healthy (and 4th string given how the C's use Grant a lot).

Yea, based on Harrell's comments it sounded like Boston wouldn't make any particular promises about a spot in the rotation while Philly told him he'd be the primary backup to Embiid. I suspect Trez winning 6MOY playing for Doc previously probably influenced him as well.

Harrell is only playing 11 min/gm for Philly, and not doing much in those minutes.  11th most playing time on the team.  Just ahead of Paul Reed.  And Harrell would have projected to be better than any of Cousins, Whiteside, Favors, and so on.  He is only 28.  The Celtics made him a min offer, he declined, he took a min offer elsewhere.  I suspect the Celtics have made other offers that were declined.

I think this illustrates two point.  The first is that these FA bigs that keep getting talked about are probably going to have less impact on the Celtics than Harrell is having on the Sixers.  Second, it is wrong to assume the Celtics haven't made offers or are not making offers because of financial reasons.

I am all for adding some depth.  I suspect they probably will.  I am also fine with just slow playing this.  Letting things play out.  No need to do a deal just to do a deal.

To me, the bigger takeaway is that Boston never lied to the guy about what his position in the rotation would be.

[ozgod]

Yep. And good luck to him.

I get the impression the C's went to him really honest about what they wanted and were probably fine with him walking if he wasn't down with their thinking. And I'd rather have Vonleh than Harrell right now, tbh.

If Kornet is rounding into a decent 2nd string center that's huge, because he's really the 3rd string center if Rob comes back healthy (and 4th string given how the C's use Grant a lot).

Yea, based on Harrell's comments it sounded like Boston wouldn't make any particular promises about a spot in the rotation while Philly told him he'd be the primary backup to Embiid. I suspect Trez winning 6MOY playing for Doc previously probably influenced him as well.

Harrell is only playing 11 min/gm for Philly, and not doing much in those minutes.  11th most playing time on the team.  Just ahead of Paul Reed.  And Harrell would have projected to be better than any of Cousins, Whiteside, Favors, and so on.  He is only 28.  The Celtics made him a min offer, he declined, he took a min offer elsewhere.  I suspect the Celtics have made other offers that were declined.

I think this illustrates two point.  The first is that these FA bigs that keep getting talked about are probably going to have less impact on the Celtics than Harrell is having on the Sixers.  Second, it is wrong to assume the Celtics haven't made offers or are not making offers because of financial reasons.

I am all for adding some depth.  I suspect they probably will.  I am also fine with just slow playing this.  Letting things play out.  No need to do a deal just to do a deal.

To me, the bigger takeaway is that Boston never lied to the guy about what his position in the rotation would be.

Yup, it's what you would expect in a well-run organization. Anyone who goes for a job interview, whether a player or employee, deserves to know what they are going to be in for and how they will fit into the overall plan. No point lying to someone just to get them to sign and then have them be unhappy, because it's not a win-win for both parties. It's all about the fit.